HWZ Forums

Login Register FAQ Mark Forums Read

[NAS] Synology NAS owner club!

Like Tree598Likes
Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools
Old 27-05-2020, 10:18 PM   #9211
Arch-Supremacy Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2000
Posts: 18,082
really wouldn't recommend that. Instead, why not DS File?
was looking at easy access like a drive in the laptop. does DS file have app for laptop?

also i only want the laptop to be able to access 1 of the drive not the whole NAS.
Processor
i5-4760
Mainboard
asrock H81M-ITX
Memory
8GB
Display
LG 27inch Ultrawide
Storage
250GB SSD
OS
windows 10

stam is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 27-05-2020, 10:20 PM   #9212
Arch-Supremacy Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2000
Posts: 18,082
Personally I don't recommend you expose your NAS file services to external network. Consider using a VPN, which can be offered by your router if it is supported, or port forward the VPN to your OpenVPN offered by Synology NAS. After which you will be able to access the file services using Internal IP address as if you are part to your network.

You may read up on https://www.synology.com/en-global/k...nter/vpn_setup

With OpenVPN, you can configure split tunnel at your laptop, so that only your home internal IP addresses will be routed via the OpenVPN client installed on your laptop. Other traffic will continue via your default route depending on where you are, in office, or tethering 4G etc...

If however you wish to insist on public access to your fileserver, I will assume it is Windows via SMB/CIFS

Setup port forwardings TCP/445 and TCP/139 from your router to your Synology NAS IP.

You may need to also subscribe to a dynamic IP service, either on Synology https://www.synology.com/en-us/knowl...onnection_ddns or on your router, after which you will be able to access your Synology from public Internet using the dynamic hostname
hmm..ok, seems like the security issues involved. those VPN stuffs are abit complicated for laymen like me. Maybe i just stick to access thru the quickconnect
Processor
i5-4760
Mainboard
asrock H81M-ITX
Memory
8GB
Display
LG 27inch Ultrawide
Storage
250GB SSD
OS
windows 10

stam is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 27-05-2020, 10:46 PM   #9213
Arch-Supremacy Member
 
davidktw's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2010
Posts: 10,507
hmm..ok, seems like the security issues involved. those VPN stuffs are abit complicated for laymen like me. Maybe i just stick to access thru the quickconnect
I might be mistaken, but quickconnect won’t let you mount a drive because the technique used to establish a network route is what we called reverse tunnelling. Your NAS will connect to a service provided by Synology and create a reverse tunnel or using HTTP tunnelling access the NAS. Likewise on your laptop or mobile drive you connect to Synology to link up the connection. Because network hop is indirect and also I am not sure myself where that server is hosted, your routing could be going all the way to Taiwan or US, then back to Singapore (assuming you are in Singapore)

This method is also limited to several applications developed by Synology, which also include logging into your NAS web console. But I doubt you can perform a drive mapping from your OS.

Why not you try those tutorials and see if you can get openvpn working? At least a trial, it wouldn’t hurt if you can’t get it working, which you can just stop the VPN server in your NAS
Processor
2x E5520
Mainboard
Intel S5520HC
Graphics Card
Nvidia Quadro 600
Memory
24 GB DDR3
Display
24" Samsung LED
Storage
4x DW Velociraptor on HPT 4310 H/W RAID
Optical Storage
1x DVD
Casing
Cool Master
PSU
Forgotten
Audio
None
OS
Windows Server 2008 R2 Enterprise

davidktw is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 27-05-2020, 10:51 PM   #9214
Arch-Supremacy Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2000
Posts: 18,082
I might be mistaken, but quickconnect won’t let you mount a drive because the technique used to establish a network route is what we called reverse tunnelling. Your NAS will connect to a service provided by Synology and create a reverse tunnel or using HTTP tunnelling access the NAS. Likewise on your laptop or mobile drive you connect to Synology to link up the connection. Because network hop is indirect and also I am not sure myself where that server is hosted, your routing could be going all the way to Taiwan or US, then back to Singapore (assuming you are in Singapore)

This method is also limited to several applications developed by Synology, which also include logging into your NAS web console. But I doubt you can perform a drive mapping from your OS.

Why not you try those tutorials and see if you can get openvpn working? At least a trial, it wouldn’t hurt if you can’t get it working, which you can just stop the VPN server in your NAS
yes, quickconnect not a good way compare to mounting the drive to my computer, i can open the files and copy, paste etc easily.

let me read up on openvpn and see how to go about it.

Thanks for your advice.
Processor
i5-4760
Mainboard
asrock H81M-ITX
Memory
8GB
Display
LG 27inch Ultrawide
Storage
250GB SSD
OS
windows 10

stam is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 27-05-2020, 11:02 PM   #9215
Master Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2004
Posts: 3,250
I never got openvpn to work, so just used web station to access disk station portal. Not really secure but does the job.
stam likes this.
Processor
AMD Ryzen 7 3700X
Mainboard
ASUS
Graphics Card
AMD 5700XT
Display
Samsung
Storage
Samsung&OCZ SSD, Seagate/Toshiba/Western Digital HDD
Optical Storage
Asus
Casing
Coolermaster
PSU
Silverstone
OS
Windows 10

fluid_motion is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 28-05-2020, 12:16 AM   #9216
Master Member
 
naked123's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2010
Posts: 4,931
or install openvpn server on another pc/server

and use

push "route 192.168.X.X 255.255.255.0"

change 192.168.X.X to your IP
__________________
Hello
Processor
Intel Core i7 4710HQ
Mainboard
Dell HM87
Graphics Card
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 850M @ 1219 core / 1050 mem
Memory
12GB
Display
14" FullHD IPS
Storage
Kingston A400 240GB
Optical Storage
Seagate 1TB SSHD
Casing
Sexy red casing
PSU
90W
Audio
Apple USB-C to 3.5mm
OS
Windows 10 Home x64

naked123 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 28-05-2020, 01:34 AM   #9217
Arch-Supremacy Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2015
Posts: 12,458
or install openvpn server on another pc/server

and use

push "route 192.168.X.X 255.255.255.0"

change 192.168.X.X to your IP
Good routers such as asus can do it. Save $ on servers. Since router usually most people will just let it run indefinitely. Best choice
Processor
Intel® Core™2 Duo Processor E4600
Mainboard
Irvine-GL6E
Graphics Card
Intel HD
Memory
4096MB DDR2
Display
Acer Predator X34A
Storage
Samsung 850 EVO 500GB SSD
Casing
S3380D HomePC
Audio
High Definition 6-channel audio
OS
Windows 10 Home SL

batniss is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 28-05-2020, 03:35 AM   #9218
Arch-Supremacy Member
 
davidktw's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2010
Posts: 10,507
yes, quickconnect not a good way compare to mounting the drive to my computer, i can open the files and copy, paste etc easily.

let me read up on openvpn and see how to go about it.

Thanks for your advice.
https://www.synology.com/en-global/knowledgebase/DSM/help/VPNCenter/vpn_setup

On your router, setup port forwarding for PUBLIC 1194/UDP to your NAS internal IP
stam likes this.
Processor
2x E5520
Mainboard
Intel S5520HC
Graphics Card
Nvidia Quadro 600
Memory
24 GB DDR3
Display
24" Samsung LED
Storage
4x DW Velociraptor on HPT 4310 H/W RAID
Optical Storage
1x DVD
Casing
Cool Master
PSU
Forgotten
Audio
None
OS
Windows Server 2008 R2 Enterprise

davidktw is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 28-05-2020, 05:47 AM   #9219
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 2018
Posts: 719
Oh they will work for sure. Enterprise HDDs are just made to be used more rigorously than consumer ones. They use the same sata and power plugs. I was actually considering the UltraStar HC310 before, but I decided going for the N300 instead.
I am now looking at DS918+ but DS920+ has just been announced and coming soon. Worth to buy DS918+ now at $719?
007Mi6 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 28-05-2020, 10:51 AM   #9220
Senior Member
 
karloil's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2012
Posts: 633
I am now looking at DS918+ but DS920+ has just been announced and coming soon. Worth to buy DS918+ now at $719?
Yes, the 920+ was announced a few days after I got the 918+. But for me, I will still stick with the 918+ as the 'update' is quite incremental only.

In my take, do you need the NAS now? Then go for the 918+. The 918+ can do the same things that the 920+ can. You can already play around with it, arrange your files and enjoy exploring what a NAS can do. Plus, the 918+ has been around for 2+ years now and is a great seller, so you know it's well proven hardware.

But if you can still wait and take your time (and you want the latest), by all means go for the 920+. Pricing will definitely be higher and you might wait until maybe a few more months in order for it to arrive in Singapore.

A third option is for you to wait for the 920+ arrival (If you can still wait). Compare the prices of the 2, then decide then. Maybe the price difference of the 920+ vs 918+ may allow you to get an additional Ram for the 918+, bigger HDDs or get SSDs.

Where did you find $719 for the 918+? The cheapest I know is $750.

I enjoyed my time in researching which hardware to purchase before I got my 918+. Hope you get to enjoy your time too! Always be here to give you opinions.
__________________
hhhhmmmmm.....
karloil is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 28-05-2020, 01:32 PM   #9221
Senior Member
 
karloil's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2012
Posts: 633
anyone know how to Map Drive Remotely for my laptop?

so my laptop can access my NAS like a drive in explorer when outside with internet connection.

I can only map to my desktop at home.
This might be an option for you if you want:

https://www.synology.com/en-global/k...gy_NAS_via_FTP
stam likes this.
__________________
hhhhmmmmm.....
karloil is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 28-05-2020, 11:40 PM   #9222
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 2018
Posts: 719
Yes, the 920+ was announced a few days after I got the 918+. But for me, I will still stick with the 918+ as the 'update' is quite incremental only.

In my take, do you need the NAS now? Then go for the 918+. The 918+ can do the same things that the 920+ can. You can already play around with it, arrange your files and enjoy exploring what a NAS can do. Plus, the 918+ has been around for 2+ years now and is a great seller, so you know it's well proven hardware.

But if you can still wait and take your time (and you want the latest), by all means go for the 920+. Pricing will definitely be higher and you might wait until maybe a few more months in order for it to arrive in Singapore.

A third option is for you to wait for the 920+ arrival (If you can still wait). Compare the prices of the 2, then decide then. Maybe the price difference of the 920+ vs 918+ may allow you to get an additional Ram for the 918+, bigger HDDs or get SSDs.

Where did you find $719 for the 918+? The cheapest I know is $750.

I enjoyed my time in researching which hardware to purchase before I got my 918+. Hope you get to enjoy your time too! Always be here to give you opinions.
Hi, thanks for your input. Let me digest a bit.

$759 on Lazada and Shopee, with $40 coupons so about $719.
007Mi6 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 29-05-2020, 12:37 AM   #9223
Senior Member
 
karloil's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2012
Posts: 633
Hi, thanks for your input. Let me digest a bit.

$759 on Lazada and Shopee, with $40 coupons so about $719.
Oh I see. Lucky you have coupons now. I looked around and I think prices are creeping up again.
__________________
hhhhmmmmm.....
karloil is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 29-05-2020, 01:30 AM   #9224
Arch-Supremacy Member
 
i1magic's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2002
Posts: 21,242
Oh I see. Lucky you have coupons now. I looked around and I think prices are creeping up again.

I was considering to get the DS918+ awhile back. It was <$700. But I guess due to Covid 19, all the IT products price went up.

I have done my comparison like you before and found that DS918+ is a better value to go for. 4GB ram instead of 2GB on the cheaper model + 4 bay instead of 2 bay.
__________________
Now Playing Warface ... with clan Imperio-Azteca.
Processor
Intel Xeon E3-1245v2 3.4Ghz + Iceage Prima Boss II HSF w/2 Fan
Mainboard
Gigabyte Z77X-UD3H
Graphics Card
Zotac GTX 970 4GB
Memory
4x4GB Kingston DDR3 1333Mhz RAM
Display
2 x CrossOver 27Q Pivot 27" 2560x1440
Storage
Samsung Evo 850 120GB SDD + Total 7.5TB of storage
Optical Storage
External USB DVD Writer
Casing
Xigmatek Asgard Pro
PSU
Super Flower 600W
Audio
Swan M10 / Onboard sound
OS
Windows 10 Pro 64bits

i1magic is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 29-05-2020, 09:28 AM   #9225
Arch-Supremacy Member
 
i1magic's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2002
Posts: 21,242
Hi, thanks for your input. Let me digest a bit.

$759 on Lazada and Shopee, with $40 coupons so about $719.
Now Synology DS 918+ on Qoo10 is $805. Got $80 coupon for $800 spent. So nett is $725. If you use Qoo10 gift card, you get another $14 off, so it will be $711.

Or via Lazada, Videopro.com selling DS918+ for $739.

Quick grab the coupon now.
__________________
Now Playing Warface ... with clan Imperio-Azteca.

Last edited by i1magic; 29-05-2020 at 09:32 AM..
Processor
Intel Xeon E3-1245v2 3.4Ghz + Iceage Prima Boss II HSF w/2 Fan
Mainboard
Gigabyte Z77X-UD3H
Graphics Card
Zotac GTX 970 4GB
Memory
4x4GB Kingston DDR3 1333Mhz RAM
Display
2 x CrossOver 27Q Pivot 27" 2560x1440
Storage
Samsung Evo 850 120GB SDD + Total 7.5TB of storage
Optical Storage
External USB DVD Writer
Casing
Xigmatek Asgard Pro
PSU
Super Flower 600W
Audio
Swan M10 / Onboard sound
OS
Windows 10 Pro 64bits

i1magic is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply
Important Forum Advisory Note
This forum is moderated by volunteer moderators who will react only to members' feedback on posts. Moderators are not employees or representatives of HWZ. Forum members and moderators are responsible for their own posts.

Please refer to our Terms of Service for more information.


Thread Tools

Posting Rules

Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are On