[NAS] Synology NAS owner club!
 

Do you own a 2 bay, 4 bay, or maybe even an 8 bay Synology NAS? Come post here and share your thoughts, or help out other Synology NAS owners here! I'll post some useful tips every once in a while as long time permits.

What CPU does my Synology NAS have? http://forum.synology.com/wiki/index...es_my_NAS_have

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hi i see many people buying nas now. i would like to know under wat circumstances would one want a nas? can it like work on a tv for movies? how fast is the transfer speed?

http://deluxeforums.hardwarezone.com...n-4071349.html

Recommend you ask here instead. You usually want a NAS to store data and stuff, and still want a level of protection that can be gained via the use of RAID or a similar system.

just gotten a 413J with 4 x 4TB from the IT show...

it's currently formatting the drive right now.. i think a little more than 15 hours more to go? :s13:

1st time having a NAS, hope to learn more here!

Am a proud DNS-320 upgraded to DS-212j owner!

Shld invest in a better eth cable or use the stock cable?
Any advise? I suppose SLS or SLT got sell the cables right?

Me just got a 1812+ with 8pcs 3tb Red WD from MW SLS. I did a Raid 5 with 1 vol.

But my friends advise me to create 2 volumes instead as it is safer and will have faster recover if any HDD spoils... Is it true?

Just make sure you get from a reputable place when you buying cat5e cables. No need expensive or what, just make sure they don't sell you fake cat5e cables, because it does affect your speeds.

I agree with your friend. 6:2 is a safer ratio. 7:1 is quite risky since you can afford to have only 1 fail. If 6:2 at least you still can survive with 2 failed drives.

I see many wuluilang here!

just got a DS213. no time to get hdd yet.

NAS newbie. here to learn!

was using a AEBS+hdd previously, dont know if its considered to be the same thing but it allows me to have a shared drive over my network.

im on synology DS 411J with 4x3TB Seagate HDD.

Just gotten the 413j. A newbie too. What raid config would be suitable for my usage to store movies? I want to maximize capacity and at the same time have some safety net in case one drive fail..

3:1 is sufficient. One drive fail still can scramble to buy a new replacement. I tio 2 drive fail before, heng still got way to backup, but damn mafan. :(

Hi there Vulpix and Synlogy pals,

Got myself a 413j and 4 pc RED 3TB harddisks at IT fair.

Still haven't settle down to open up the boxes...

What Raid would you recommend? newbie here...

TIA
Benjamin

If you are a newbie just select SHR, let Synology handle for you.

Depends on redundancy vs performance needs. Sensitive data probably SHR-2 or RAID 6, can tahan 2 disk fail. OW SHR or RAID 5. Need speed and non-critical data then RAID 0. Idiot proof just use SHR-1 should be ok for most users.

hmmm im curious is synology like the best in the market??? how isit compared to qnap

Can we add some additional infomation on how to access your NAS online as well, I'm struggling with that. Keeps telling me I need to switch on webdav, but I already on liao.

I chose it mainly because of software, supposed to be one of the better ones on the market.

My own ratio is:
Running:Redundant
3:1
4:2
6:2

What guide are you using? Link the guide, I see if there are any steps that is missing.

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Hrmmm, did you setup the webdav port and stuff also? Worst case scenario just reboot your NAS.

Yup, I switched on webdav. Maybe I will try rebooting everything tonight, the sequence should be modem, router, PC, NAS? or model, router, NAS, pc?

Doesn't matter. Just reboot the NAS, don't disturb your PC and router, because it seems like there's a config issue. If cannot just post here, I personally never encounter any issue before.

Ok will give it a go when I get home. Need a damn USB 3.0 connection on the NAS man, think gonna take me a while to transfer all my stuff over to the NAS. Should have gotten a 413 instead. :s13:

413 is PPC based platform, I would not recommend it too. Anyway the pain is only a one time setup. If you don't sway sway kenna 2/4 drive deaths, should be no problem one.

413 or 411slim...for siimplee Storage, Movies dlna And Server for people To Download Files From Me

Whichever that has a marvell processor. Don't pick anything with PPC.

Probably gonna take me a week to sort everything out, I got files all over the shop. After that only keep my ssd and raptors in pc. The rest of the hdd relegate to usb 3.0 external enclosure or the NAS. The file copying is excruciatingly slow when we're talking about 6-7tb.

You're telling me... Last week 2 of my drives died in my NAS, I had to copy out everything due to that failure because the entire partition corrupted. If 1 drive die maybe still ok, but this time 2 died due to power failure. I should have invested in a UPS earlier, but at least now I learned my lesson and bought one over the week. :s13:

Please don't poison me into buying another thing. :s22: Damn suay siah two GG at same time.

Now using DS211. Having 2 drives fail at the same time is really out of luck. At the moment now I have a RAID 1 DAS connected to my RAID 1 NAS for nightly backup. If all 4 drives fail at the same time, means I can go buy 4D liao. Which UPS u using for your NAS? Considering to invest one for my NAS in the near future as well

ok thanks alot! amazingly the more exp one is the ppc...

Sorry, very noob to this. What raid is 3:1? Raid 5 or the SHR?

2 drives fail at the same time is quite a rare thing lah. Really just sway sway got power trip at my home out of the blue, switch back on 2 drives uplorry. The drives I'm using also not really built for NAS use anyway, so sway lor.

I got myself an APC UPS, one with a USB connection to the NAS. Mine is APC Power-Saving Back-UPS Pro 900 but no need get until so hardcore one lah. I have this habit of buy one time buy a good unit so no need to think about it again. Think cost me around 325.

Now I configure my NAS to become the UPS server, so my UPS is connected directly to my NAS, my PC also connected to the UPS, and set it up to ping every 30 minutes since my PC is only switched on when I am at home. So if see my UPS start to kpkb know got power trip can shut down liao. :s13:

3:1 is RAID 5. SHR will also use 3:1 if you are using a 4 drive NAS.

Oh Ya im Curious Lets say i Transfering From com To nas And from Nas To Com ssd Avg speed Of caviar Red

My NAS is also acting as my download machine, apart from serving data access to all the systems in my house and remotely.

I kept wondering if separating a downloading NAS would be better.

Say I add a DS112/DS112+ as a downloading machine and maintain my DS211 server to my systems. Think the HDD in DS211 would last longer or just make performance better?

Your keyboard something wrong? :s11: Anyway speeds depend greatly on the NAS itself. 413/413j series known to transfer somewhere between 30-40mb/s while the NAS with faster processors like the Intel ones in the 412+ can go up to 80-90mb/s.

Of course this is assuming your router doesn't suck and it's properly supporting a gigabit connection, and you manage to find the perfect jumbo frame value for your network, and there is no other device congesting your network.

Are you doing so much downloads that you are bogging down the performance of your NAS? Check the CPU bar on the right side of the Synology GUI and see on average if it's always at high load or not. If it's constantly at high load from the things you do, then it's probably a good idea to have a separate NAS.

If it's only a few downloads once in a while, then no, don't waste money. Or you could always use this as an excuse to get a 412+ with the awesome Intel processor that will let you multitask like a boss with top downloads. :crazy:

BTW I just wanna remind everyone I not a NAS expert hor, just sharing what I know. Got a few veterans here haven't show face in this thread yet. :D

All my siblings have remote access to the storage so when we are out, we are always streaming music from the NAS.

My NAS is always downloading/uploading something. When it's a well seeded file and I maximise the bandwidth, yup the cpu will be at 100%. And because torrents cause a lot of HDD activities, I thought maybe a NAS dedicated for torrenting might be a good idea because even if the HDDs crash, all my data won't be there but on the other NAS.

For discussion please, a 421+ is $775, that is like almost x3 212j. Apart from the possibility of having Raid 5/6/10 etc... Will you be better off with 2 x 212j with spare change? Though I noted that you will lost 50% hdd space. Let's do some math:

Setup 1 - 9TB (Assume Raid 5)
1 x 421+ - $775
4 x WD Red 3TB - $207 x 4 = $828
Total = $1603

Setup 2 - 3TB x 2 = 6TB (Assume Raid 1)
2 x 212j - $270 x 2 = $540
4 x WD Red 3TB - $207 x 4 = $828
Total = $1368


$1603 - $1368 = $235 (ie 1 WD Red 3TB with spare change)

So in the end you get same diskspace except that in Setup 1 3TB is unprotected per se.

Any other views?

Based on your description, I would say getting a 4 bay NAS with good performance actually makes more sense than getting another 2 bay NAS.

My reasoning:

1. Torrenting is actually quite CPU intensive.
2. If you have 2 NAS with 2 bays, it means you are practically doing a RAID 1. Why not just get a 4 bay one and do RAID 5?
3. If you get 1x 4 bay NAS, you just need 1 UPS to cover it, if you get 2x 2 bay NAS, how you going to cover in the future? :D

The reason you want a 412+ is for the intel processor, faster speeds and transcoding feature only found on the 412+ and other Intel NAS. If none of those features makes sense to you, then don't put the 412+ in your list. Not a very fair comparison. You should replace the 412+ with a 413j.

Setup 1 - 9TB (Assume Raid 5)
1 x 413j - $475
4 x WD Red 3TB - $207 x 4 = $828
Total = $1303

See? It's actually cheaper. I rather just go with a 4 bay NAS with a cheap UPS which is even more secure than running 2x2 NAS.

If I'm reading this correctly, your NAS is configured to let you know when the UPS kicks in during a power failure? How is this information sent to you?

If you check the power setting in your NAS, you will find an option to check if your NAS can communicate with the UPS via an interface (most of the time USB cable from UPS to NAS/PC). So when there there is a trip, the UPS will kick in and tell the NAS that it is on battery power. I told my NAS to shutdown within 5 minutes of getting that signal. :D

My PC will do the same if I happen to not be there.

Another question. Suppose I get 4 pieces of 3TB HDD for my 413j at the moment. One day in the future of I want to upgrade to 4 pieces of 4TB HDD, is it possible to migrate all data to new 4X 4TB setup?

There is no simple way to do it unfortunately. You have to copy it all to somewhere before you can do it. Upgrade to another Synology NAS is just a matter of plugging out the old drives and putting them into the new one, but changing the drives is an entire different ball game.