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Old 21-03-2017, 12:28 PM   #5041
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Not sure whether I should get Xiaomi PB 2 10000mah or Pro, $10 vs $20 hmm.

Edit: Looks like the both are pretty much the same other than the Pro having a type C port but that is only used for input so no point either.

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Old 21-03-2017, 12:40 PM   #5042
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Old 21-03-2017, 01:18 PM   #5043
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Not sure whether I should get Xiaomi PB 2 10000mah or Pro, $10 vs $20 hmm.

Edit: Looks like the both are pretty much the same other than the Pro having a type C port but that is only used for input so no point either.
Got pros and cons. Type C is towards the future. You will see the need of Type C when this year of phones all starts to roll out with Type C cables. And the Pro also allow fast charge.
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Old 21-03-2017, 03:06 PM   #5044
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Got pros and cons. Type C is towards the future. You will see the need of Type C when this year of phones all starts to roll out with Type C cables. And the Pro also allow fast charge.
But the type C can only be used to charge the pb haha, phone charging uses the type A port with A to C cable. I was under the impression that only pro supports 2 way fast charge, but according to the box and website the PB 2 does too which is great.

https://xiaomi-mi.com/power-banks/xi...0000mah-black/

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Old 21-03-2017, 03:17 PM   #5045
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But the type C can only be used to charge the pb haha, phone charging uses the type A port with A to C cable. I was under the impression that only pro supports 2 way fast charge, but according to the box and website the PB 2 does too which is great.

https://xiaomi-mi.com/power-banks/xi...0000mah-black/

Charge one way only lol. The type C only 1 way charge in. But supports quick charge lah.

But really go for the pro model for type C. Next time if you are using type A to C cable for your own phone, you also dont need to purposely bring out a A to micro cable to charge your own powerbank.
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Old 21-03-2017, 05:11 PM   #5046
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Going to roll back too. The latest one sux for me.. Rendering will 70% crash. Display will flicker during login to window for some odd reason after updating to the latest driver.
Means it's hardware fault. 1080 ti pls.
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Old 21-03-2017, 05:53 PM   #5048
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Yup! Totally clean.

I actually did 2 application attempts. Cause the first try I overdone the internet advice on spreading a super thin layer (looked almost like a metal plating on die and IHS), ended up poor contact and temperatures got worse. BSOD on prime 95 (quick test) I normally don't get maybe from poor coverage.

When I redo the application, I painted the taped IHS with the brush and left a very small running droplet on the painted region, did the same for CPU die. Heng I didn't lap the surface or else the running droplet will really spill on the anodised IHS surface.

Finished off by using the relid tool (the tripod thing + huge thumbscrew light-moderate hand tightening) for seating the liquid metal properly. In theory the "running droplets" meet and bridge die and IHS properly. Left it in that state for 20 minutes before releasing and putting back into system.

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Final result is 1.351V + 0.25V offset + LLC5 under 60C worse case including prime95, CPU video encode on all threads. But temperature deltas under normal heavy load within 15c from ambient. Peak vcore reading in software (hwinfo64) is barely above 1.4.

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u mean 1.351v + 0.025 offset?
wah under 60c even for p95 - tats great!

my improvemt not as great - now 72c peak for realbench, x264, hci
but impt now is no longer limited by temps, but limited by voltage now
hav gone ahead with 1.4+ vcore
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Old 21-03-2017, 06:12 PM   #5049
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u mean 1.351v + 0.025 offset?
wah under 60c even for p95 - tats great!

my improvemt not as great - now 72c peak for realbench, x264, hci
but impt now is no longer limited by temps, but limited by voltage now
hav gone ahead with 1.4+ vcore
To be clear my 1.4 spikes are mostly due to the adaptive voltage and its relation to the VID. Cause I have a peak frequency of 4.9GHz and light usage the VID is quite high at low 1.4x, the core voltage from mobo will react on a scale related to VID. But oddly under full cpu load its more or less 1.376 cause of downclocking to 4.6GHz.

1.4+ vcore you're sustaining peak 72c very good liao!! Cause with the LLC spikes etc its slightly higher and at that voltage the power draw (and heat) increases by a fair amount, would say they're probably comparable to mine if running same voltage .

Not sure what cooling you use but swapping from default corsairs to GT part of the huge improvement apart from delid.

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Old 21-03-2017, 06:17 PM   #5050
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Means it's hardware fault. 1080 ti pls.
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To be clear my 1.4 spikes are mostly due to the adaptive voltage and its relation to the VID. Cause I have a peak frequency of 4.9GHz and light usage the VID will put the core voltage a lot closer to 1.4 and the mobo will react accordingly. But oddly under full cpu load its more or less 1.376 cause of downclocking to 4.6GHz.

1.4+ vcore you're sustaining peak 72c very good liao!! Cause with the LLC spikes etc its slightly higher and at that voltage the power draw (and heat) increases by a fair amount .

Not sure what cooling you use but swapping from default corsairs to GT part of the huge improvement apart from delid.
thx, fingers crossed hope not to see any cpu degradatn (but YOLO!), or clu creep due to vertical mount...
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Old 21-03-2017, 06:24 PM   #5052
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Lol yup YOLO, but if OCN numbers are zhun, these voltages should still be a notch away from a death run for 24/7 I guess.

The rest moi is interested in is how much accelerated wear the CPU is taking and whether Y2, Y3 any voltage bump will be required but so far so good with no visible degradation.

If I have a better cooler will definitey try pushing to what you get hopefully with minimal noise level compromises

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Old 21-03-2017, 06:31 PM   #5053
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my phenom2 x3 720be, i rem vcore is also quite close to max recommended
biostar mb no vrm heatsinks

till now still using same settings, no problems - touch wood!
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Not sure what cooling you use but swapping from default corsairs to GT part of the huge improvement apart from delid.
If I have a better cooler will definitey try pushing to what you get hopefully with minimal noise level compromises
using d15s
my casing on the floor & cpu side faces away frm me, and luckily i'm ok with strong wooshing loud fans as long as dun sound irritating

also using headset when gaming, so no problem even with gpu at 95% fan
i hear my desk fan across the room more than my cpu/gpu fans
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