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Old 10-10-2020, 06:02 PM   #31
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Plan to hoot for server is it?
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Old 10-10-2020, 06:05 PM   #32
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AMD would need to redesign the IO chip to implement support for better ram.

Not withstanding some older motherboard (b450?) might not be able to support higher frequency ram due to lower built quality.

I also think AMD is going for incremental update for their Ryzen CPU design from now on.
zen4 should be 5nm so it should be a decent generational improvement.
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Old 10-10-2020, 06:05 PM   #33
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SG leh, unless you order from outside SG, if not, want price drop = wait long long.
Especially, the retainers need to make $$$ due to not able to open shops for months.
淘宝 Got sell 散片 without heatsink just the chip $510 exlcude shipping but i worry =(
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Old 10-10-2020, 06:08 PM   #34
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淘宝 Got sell 散片 without heatsink just the chip $510 exlcude shipping but i worry =(
Can hoot, cpu is hardy stuff that don't break even with rough usage or handling.

Only scary is get fake cpu or some other things other than what u order.
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Old 10-10-2020, 06:30 PM   #35
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淘宝 Got sell 散片 without heatsink just the chip $510 exlcude shipping but i worry =(
Can hoot, cpu is hardy stuff that don't break even with rough usage or handling.

Only scary is get fake cpu or some other things other than what u order.
yes, as bumiputera said, just hoot. i bought 5 散片 cpus off taobao over the years, 2x v2 xeons and 3x r5 2600, all worked (except 1 2600 where i accidentally broke a cpu pin ). honestly cpus hardly ever die, and the taobao sellers do pack the cpus well enough, so should be no issue. even if got problem, shipping back for claim is also no problem: i sold that 2600 with broken pin to someone, that guy sent it back to china to resit the pins, got it back and sold it as part of a full system. i ask him say the shipping cost there and back q cheap.

buying off taobao should also be fine in terms of getting scammed; so long as u buy from reputable listings (some shops have banners stating they have been around for 10+ years) u should be getting the real deal. ive also bought stuff with no reviews and still got a working as expected part, so...
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Old 10-10-2020, 07:03 PM   #36
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I bought the 3900XT for 580+ due to error pricing with cart coupon on Qoo10
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Old 10-10-2020, 08:20 PM   #37
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Will R9 3900x drop price? So far i see $600+ any good chance will drop to $550
I think AMD increase the prices of Ryzen 5000 so as to prevent too much drop in price of the Ryzen 3000
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Old 10-10-2020, 08:37 PM   #38
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i think amd will cut prices when intel releases their new space heaters in q1 2021
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Old 10-10-2020, 09:13 PM   #39
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I bought the 3900XT for 580+ due to error pricing with cart coupon on Qoo10
u are just one time off lucky example. Its great that the shop actually honours the deal
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Ya.. quite lucky.. great that they honor.
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Old 10-10-2020, 09:47 PM   #41
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i think amd will cut prices when intel releases their new space heaters in q1 2021
That is if Intel's upcoming Rocket lake will be competitive with Ryzen 5000. Either that of Intel willing to cut the intel tax and reduce CPU price. Otherwise, it is hard for AMD to drop price for no good reason.
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Old 11-10-2020, 01:17 AM   #42
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That is if Intel's upcoming Rocket lake will be competitive with Ryzen 5000. Either that of Intel willing to cut the intel tax and reduce CPU price. Otherwise, it is hard for AMD to drop price for no good reason.
there are rumours of significant ipc improvement and B series memory overclocking which should put rocket lake competitive with zen3 or more.
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Old 11-10-2020, 03:46 AM   #43
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there are rumours of significant ipc improvement and B series memory overclocking which should put rocket lake competitive with zen3 or more.
Promising rumours/facts of Intel's Rocket lake; Gen 11 Core cpu are:
1. 10% IPC increase over Gen 10
2. Clock up to 5GHz
3. PCI express 4.0
4. 10nm Xe graphics

Potential negative points are:
1. Maximum 8 core 16 threads
2. VERY high power usage and heat output
3. Might be launched after March 2021

The new Intel cpu will indeed be interesting but i am not optimistic that it will be much of a competition to AMD's Ryzen. Especially for people buying Ryzen 9 5950X with 16 core 32 threads.
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Old 11-10-2020, 05:52 AM   #44
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Based on this data, which is the best bang for buck cpu to get? Am planning to get a new pc few months later either in Dec or next year Jan where stocks is readily available.

Should I go for ryzen 5000? Or would ryzen 3000 be more value for money? I am intending to get the 3080 graphic card too. Not looking to overclock.

Been using intel for the last 20 years already and noted AMD already caught up to them and wanted to try out. Currently still using Intel processor from 3 years ago.

For ryzen 5000, seems to me like the most value for money is 5800x but seems to be more on the exp side so I am quite hesitant to get that.. saw some ppl in the forum commenting to get the 3600x or 3700x which is more value for money...

My main purpose is just mainly for gaming and working from home. My work involves running many applications at one time e.g autocad.. not sure this needs more ram or a good processor to help. Thanks for advice.

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Old 11-10-2020, 09:38 AM   #45
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Based on this data, which is the best bang for buck cpu to get? Am planning to get a new pc few months later either in Dec or next year Jan where stocks is readily available.

Should I go for ryzen 5000? Or would ryzen 3000 be more value for money? I am intending to get the 3080 graphic card too. Not looking to overclock.

Been using intel for the last 20 years already and noted AMD already caught up to them and wanted to try out. Currently still using Intel processor from 3 years ago.

For ryzen 5000, seems to me like the most value for money is 5800x but seems to be more on the exp side so I am quite hesitant to get that.. saw some ppl in the forum commenting to get the 3600x or 3700x which is more value for money...

My main purpose is just mainly for gaming and working from home. My work involves running many applications at one time e.g autocad.. not sure this needs more ram or a good processor to help. Thanks for advice.
Your use case the best bang for buck is actually a 5900x, it's weird but it is. You get 50% more core for like 120SGD (~20%)

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