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Solojaywalker 25-07-2019 08:17 PM

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Originally Posted by di3cbl (Post 121912878)
Considering pulling trigger on 3600 + tomahawk max + cm hyper 212, but a bit worried about temps and voltages. Seems that many people are getting around 60deg idle and idle voltage keep boosting to ~1.4v. Some say that this is normal ryzen behaviour, not sure if really true not. Will such temps and voltages degrade the CPU excessively over time?

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Originally Posted by shadey (Post 121912622)
Get a Hyper 212 or a H7 instead

so 1 more cooler is recommended for Ryzen 3600 build? + the stock cooler itself

if so, which one are decent one (not liquid)

Rolleing Stone 25-07-2019 08:38 PM

Hey guys, planning to get a 3600 and an itx board within one/two months. Been thinking of B450 instead of X570 since B550 (or what they want to call it) will apparently take longer to arrive. However, since I don't have an existing Ryzen chip, I will not be able to update it normally. Unfortunately MSI doesn't seem to be updating its ITX B450 boards to the Ryzen 3000 ready MAX series. Not quite sure if there are other good B450 board manufacturers who will release these kind of updates.

Is there any solution to this?

Rolleing Stone 25-07-2019 10:16 PM

Thanks concept_fuel. Largely because the user won't likely need the features for a long long time. And slightly price sensitive lah. Can save, save.

1. seems more feasible... just buy and ask. Is 2 actually offered here?

gld998 25-07-2019 11:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Rolleing Stone (Post 121919332)
Hey guys, planning to get a 3600 and an itx board within one/two months. Been thinking of B450 instead of X570 since B550 (or what they want to call it) will apparently take longer to arrive. However, since I don't have an existing Ryzen chip, I will not be able to update it normally. Unfortunately MSI doesn't seem to be updating its ITX B450 boards to the Ryzen 3000 ready MAX series. Not quite sure if there are other good B450 board manufacturers who will release these kind of updates.

Is there any solution to this?

Pls get locally for your board. Wait for 9th August lazada sale for motherboard sale. Get local distro to update for u. I have the auros b450 itx (waiting for my Ryzen 7 2700 from Amazon) and asrock b350 itx (currently running Ryzen 7 1700x).

As for processor, 3600 free shipping this morning but its been removed as well, it was going at 279 sgd free shipping. Get ready to pay more if u buy from SLS without motherboard bundle. 9th August lazada sale or use 30 off 300 for dbs posb to bring it down to 289 plus 1.50 shipping.


Get your RAMs now! Newegg have just up their prices again today and remove their free shipping for SG for most rams. Best bet now is Amazon but delivery will take 2 weeks. Its going to go up and up. Might be double in 1 to 2 months time.

di3cbl 25-07-2019 11:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by concept_fuel (Post 121919434)
3600X, change to a better cooler that I had for a while(bequiet dark rock pro tf with f.o.c AM4 mounting)

Auto
idle temp ~40C
x265 peak ~80C
gaming ~60C
Idle cpu package power ~16W
Load cpu package power ~80W (x264)
Idle core voltage can go as low as ~0.2V
https://i.imgur.com/hvjU2Lj.jpg

Manual Vcore 1.225V LLC turbo all 6 core 4100mhz
idle temp ~38C
x265 peak ~70C
gaming ~60C
Idle cpu package power ~24W
Load cpu package power ~66W (x264)
You forever stuck at ~1.2V

My setting on manual is hands down better than stock/auto for temps, power and performance on load(both apps and gaming with better minimums)


Gaming Temps
https://i.imgur.com/xFgMThl.jpg


Auto CinebenchR15\Cpuz\Handbrake and gaming Screenie


Manual CinebenchR15\Cpuz\Handbrake and gaming Screenie

Forever stuck at 1.2v isn't that bad?

5star_pundit 26-07-2019 06:30 AM

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Originally Posted by concept_fuel (Post 121919443)
Can it run Crysis though? a single threaded game.

On auto settings - 80 fps avg.



On my manual settings(above post) - 82 fps avg.

Very strange undervolt cpu settings when you have a big big watt psu

Rolleing Stone 26-07-2019 07:19 AM

Thanks gld998 for the advice.

purpleberry 26-07-2019 04:41 PM

What's a good mobo for mid-tier processors? Must have bluetooth so can connect audio to bluetooth headphones. No intention of overclocking and only play strategy games, so no need to gun for high fps.

shadow84 26-07-2019 04:49 PM

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Originally Posted by purpleberry (Post 121932545)
What's a good mobo for mid-tier processors? Must have bluetooth so can connect audio to bluetooth headphones. No intention of overclocking and only play strategy games, so no need to gun for high fps.

Usually, BT are bundled with Wifi cards then bundled with mobo. This will usually be more expensive than the non-wifi version. Another cheaper method is to get a pcie adaptor for laptop wifi/bt modules with external antenna like for AC9260, etc. Then hook up to lowest pcie slot and antenna put at table for better reception. Cost like $40-50 from TB.

purpleberry 26-07-2019 05:07 PM

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Originally Posted by shadow84 (Post 121932670)
Usually, BT are bundled with Wifi cards then bundled with mobo. This will usually be more expensive than the non-wifi version. Another cheaper method is to get a pcie adaptor for laptop wifi/bt modules with external antenna like for AC9260, etc. Then hook up to lowest pcie slot and antenna put at table for better reception. Cost like $40-50 from TB.

Thanks can consider that too. I have a couple USB BT adaptors but somehow keeps disconnecting. AC 9260 looks good!

Illusionist_85 26-07-2019 07:42 PM

left the cpu,casing and OS to complete the setup

https://i.imgur.com/s79w5PH.jpg

MacClipper 27-07-2019 08:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Illusionist_85 (Post 121935347)
left the cpu,casing and OS to complete the setup

Is it actually cheaper to buy mobo alone nowadays? :s22:

Illusionist_85 27-07-2019 08:45 AM

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Originally Posted by MacClipper (Post 121940703)
Is it actually cheaper to buy mobo alone nowadays? :s22:

bo bian le, nowadays hard to find the CPU stock you needed and can pay with cc :(

MacClipper 27-07-2019 08:58 AM

Lazada?

Haiz, the state of the retail scene in SLS is just so... no wonder everyone is buying online these days.


Update from AMD_Robert, Technical Marketing
https://www.reddit.com/r/Amd/comment...destiny_2_and/


Quote:

Originally Posted by AMD_Robert,
... comprehensive update coming for you regarding the WHEA warnings in the Windows Event Log; Destiny 2 game launch; and desktop idle behavior.


hg2 27-07-2019 11:24 AM

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Originally Posted by MacClipper (Post 121940927)
Lazada?
Haiz, the state of the retail scene in SLS is just so...

It like a terminally ill old lady, really sadden to see it in such sorry states.
Trying hard to buy locally (knowingly get "carrot"), until SLS last day...

Hope to preserve the fond memories of the good old days, where its fully pack like sardines on weekends...


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