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Old 23-04-2020, 09:05 PM   #1651
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Which ryzen cpu is good enough for photoshop without a dedicated graphics card?
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Old 23-04-2020, 09:14 PM   #1652
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My planned build when B550 releases

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What feature are you looking for the B550 to address? The NVMe you selected is gen 3 not 4 so it cant be that.
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Old 23-04-2020, 09:21 PM   #1653
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What feature are you looking for the B550 to address? The NVMe you selected is gen 3 not 4 so it cant be that.
You're right, nothing that Gen 3 can't support or maybe something that is too expensive now. Maybe in the future when Gen 4 nvme is cheaper or what then it's a little future proof.

I'm not super savvy at this but since it's close to release date, can wait a little.
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Old 23-04-2020, 09:28 PM   #1654
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You're right, nothing that Gen 3 can't support or maybe something that is too expensive now. Maybe in the future when Gen 4 nvme is cheaper or what then it's a little future proof.

I'm not super savvy at this but since it's close to release date, can wait a little.
Here's what we know up to now: -

https://www.tomshardware.com/news/am...ecs,40467.html

So IF you are looking to get a B450 after the B550 is released (price should drop a little) then that's one angle but other than the support for PCIE4 I do not see any advantage.

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Old 23-04-2020, 10:37 PM   #1655
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Here's what we know up to now: -

https://www.tomshardware.com/news/am...ecs,40467.html

So IF you are looking to get a B450 after the B550 is released (price should drop a little) then that's one angle but other than the support for PCIE4 I do not see any advantage.
I've seen a graph that AMD will support AM4 till 2020 so it's likely just 1 more generation of CPUs (4000)? Hence even b450 can support and future proofing is also limited by the AM4 socket?
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Ryzen 3 3300X will feature four cores on a single CCX
https://www.pcgamer.com/amd-ryzen-33...configuration/

The Ryzen 3 3300X will feature four cores on a single CCX, which means it should have less latency between the cores and therefore less latency overall. That's important for gaming performance.

AMD's budget Ryzen 3300X can outperform Intel i7-7700K?
https://www.pcgamer.com/amd-ryzen-3300x-performance/


New budget chips, B550 budget motherboards... these 2 months should be interesting, song boh?
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Any idea when will b550 boards reach us?
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Which ryzen cpu is good enough for photoshop without a dedicated graphics card?
Any of the G chips.
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Which ryzen cpu is good enough for photoshop without a dedicated graphics card?
3200G or if you are able to get the 3400G

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New budget chips, B550 budget motherboards... these 2 months should be interesting, song boh?
Interesting with both AMD and Intel coming up with cheap 4C/8T CPUs. See who can give us the better deal.
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Any idea when will b550 boards reach us?
16th of June, according to


https://wccftech.com/amd-officially-announces-ryzen-3-3000-series-and-b550-release-schedule/
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Interesting with both AMD and Intel coming up with cheap 4C/8T CPUs. See who can give us the better deal.


If similarly priced 4C8T CPU, Intel's locked vs AMD unlocked - who actually wins in the end?

Think the Ryzen 3500 at ~S$180 retail for now is possibly DOA for SG.
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Guess I should hold back my purchase till then

16th of June, according to


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If similarly priced 4C8T CPU, Intel's locked vs AMD unlocked - who actually wins in the end?
The performance numbers are what matters and we just have to wait for the reviews.
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Guess I should hold back my purchase till then
Waiting for B550 a long time liao, hope the pricing is good.

The performance numbers are what matters and we just have to wait for the reviews.
AMD also has the advantage of pre-existing AM4 users being able to drop upgrade easily from their current budget pre-Zen2 chips. Intel buyers have to buy their rig all new mobos.
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