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quiksive 17-07-2019 04:18 PM

I am just wondering if I am only using 3000mhz ram it the difference be a lot compare to 3200mhz.

Shutterbox 17-07-2019 07:21 PM

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Originally Posted by MacClipper (Post 121780339)
High chance Micron E die esp. if there is AES in the model number.

16GB is also likely dual rank, not sure if Ryzen 3K has improved handling of these RAM.

Just ordered these:

https://www.newegg.com/global/sg-en/...82E16820164131

P/N: BLS2K8G4D32AESCK

Phen8210 17-07-2019 08:51 PM

finally someone started a thread

watzup_ken 17-07-2019 09:54 PM

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Originally Posted by grimfan (Post 121781332)
Intel will be forced to make a comeback and comeback they will.

With the 7nm process node, AMD just managed to meet performance parity in IPC and only pulling ahead in multi-core performance.

With AMD finally competing, we can only now benefit with lower prices and better value, enjoy while it lasts.

Agree on the IPC, but to cram 4 more cores to a total of 12, vs 8 cores on Intel is a feat in itself. And clearly the extra 4 cores contributes to a significant improvement over Intel's highest end consumer chip in applications which benefits with more cores. You also need to factor in that if you maintain an all core turbo on the Intel 9900K, you are staring down at a power consumption of about 160 watts to maintain a high clockspeed.

I have no doubts that Intel will catch up on IPC with the launch of Ice Lake, but that is still in the later part of 2020, where they will have to compete with the likes of the 7+ nm Ryzen 4xxx which is expected to be major change from the current Zen 2.

In short, Intel no longer have the node advantage over its competitor as they historically used to have, i.e. 14nm vs AMD that using 28nm. With this advantage gone, it will be interesting to see how competitive Intel can get in the near future.

watzup_ken 17-07-2019 09:59 PM

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Originally Posted by kimsix (Post 121783424)
Crosshair 7 only $350 at Amazon app
Crosshair 8 only $540 from Newegg.
Ok to use x470 for 16 cores?
Since Ryzen cannot over clock at all?

I think it depends on the build of the board. I believe it should work perfectly fine with X470, assuming board is well built enough.

In fact, it seems if you don't need PCI4, X470 boards are the better board to get from a cost and power consumption standpoint.

https://www.extremetech.com/computin...pu-comparisons

Seems like most X570 boards out there are drawing a lot of power.

MacClipper 17-07-2019 10:21 PM

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Originally Posted by jkohlc2 (Post 121779829)
Waiting for cheap b550 mobo :(

Posted from PCWX using ONEPLUS A5010

Got to wait another quarter or so, right?

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Originally Posted by Shahmatt (Post 121784882)
Can consider HyperX Fury. I was able to take mine from 2667Mhz to 3333MHz @ CL16, 1.35V.

Best is to check with Taiphoon Burner for the actual RAM chips used, Kingston only assembles them.

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Originally Posted by quiksive (Post 121785141)
I am just wondering if I am only using 3000mhz ram it the difference be a lot compare to 3200mhz.

Hmm, hope I can find time to test it out.

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Originally Posted by Shutterbox (Post 121787779)
Just ordered these:

https://www.newegg.com/global/sg-en/...82E16820164131

P/N: BLS2K8G4D32AESCK

Exact same thing I ordered on Prime Day x 2 sets.

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Originally Posted by Phen8210 (Post 121789156)
finally someone started a thread

Yeah, think it's about time too.

Zen2 deserves its own thread for being so radically improved.

Intel must be in crisis mode nowadays but it still has its own die hard supporters who think the world of its 14nm+++ thermal greased exploits+++ afflicted chips though. :s22:

Phen8210 17-07-2019 10:28 PM

cos im seeing people reposting the same thing over and over again :s22:

kenzi87 17-07-2019 10:38 PM

3600 with B350 FTW!!!

Shutterbox 17-07-2019 10:39 PM

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Originally Posted by MacClipper (Post 121790749)


Exact same thing I ordered on Prime Day x 2 sets.

Wanted to wait for grey/red of the same stick to stock up.
but my casing doesnt have window, and this colour is 10 bucks cheaper. :s13:

MacClipper 17-07-2019 11:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Phen8210 (Post 121790862)
cos im seeing people reposting the same thing over and over again :s22:

Bigger forums are like that mah.

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Originally Posted by Shutterbox (Post 121791077)
Wanted to wait for grey/red of the same stick to stock up.
but my casing doesnt have window, and this colour is 10 bucks cheaper. :s13:

imo, white is nicer than the other colours. Grey is too drab while red is too garish. Besides, white reflects better any other RGB LED colours one uses too.

Grabbed another white Corsair pair from Amazon flash sales last night too.

Personally, I am for total silence, darkness and stealth though.



The most amazing feature of RYZEN 3000 - Power Saving (and some CCX OC)



* Remember to grab the Asus CCX OC Tool Easter egg while you are there watching der8auer.

kimsix 17-07-2019 11:37 PM

Aorus master looks good between top end and fair prices here. More interesting than Asus WS. Targetting that hope got NDP vouchers. :s13:

Any one review gigabyte for us? How is their bios and rma support now?

Shahmatt 18-07-2019 01:27 AM

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Originally Posted by MacClipper (Post 121790749)
Best is to check with Taiphoon Burner for the actual RAM chips used, Kingston only assembles them.


Micron B-die

tigerwoods 18-07-2019 08:50 AM

Is 3700X and B450 board a good combination?

Posted from PCWX using Jedi mind trick.

Shutterbox 18-07-2019 09:08 AM

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Originally Posted by tigerwoods (Post 121794255)
Is 3700X and B450 board a good combination?

Posted from PCWX using Jedi mind trick.

My only problem with b450 boards is the lack of more m.2 pcie slots.

X570 has at least 2

moonSymph 18-07-2019 09:17 AM

I'm using 3700x and msi b450 mortar titanium.. so far so good.. except bios is kind of buggy right now.. that can be said for other board as well..

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Originally Posted by tigerwoods (Post 121794255)
Is 3700X and B450
board a good combination?

Posted from PCWX using Jedi mind trick.



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