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Old 03-07-2020, 03:38 PM   #4291
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Highly doubt AMD will change their design for the needs of 0.001% who swap cooler regularly... once they have a locking mechanism people will ask for an ejection mechanism like intel socket, interesting to see if AMD can come out with something that can be mass-produced cheaply without infringing into intel IP... alternative is to use thermal sheet, but that take skills to align a thin piece of graphite membrane between the CPU and cooler...
Pin vs LGA is not about any Intel patents, it's about required pin density. Threadripper is LGA for example.

With Ryzen, pins make more sense and are cheaper for the motherboard makers with less risk of RMA.
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Old 03-07-2020, 03:45 PM   #4292
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cpu tdie. alternatively you can look at the one shown in ryzen master.

85°c in non aircon on aida64 stress test seems ok. alternatively you can try to undervolt the cpu or use an negative offset on the vcore to lower the temps.
Thanks! May I ask how much negative offset to have the first try?
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Old 03-07-2020, 03:52 PM   #4293
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Just curious. Will there be a new series of AMD Cpu in the near future (6 months)??
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Old 03-07-2020, 04:11 PM   #4294
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Just called around few shops still dont have yet
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Old 03-07-2020, 04:40 PM   #4295
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Just curious. Will there be a new series of AMD Cpu in the near future (6 months)??
Waiting for 4000 series coming out september
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Old 03-07-2020, 04:59 PM   #4296
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ASls should be getting the msi 450,550 this evening. Overheard dynacore getting 10 B450 later tonight.
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Old 03-07-2020, 05:14 PM   #4297
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Thanks! May I ask how much negative offset to have the first try?
-0.05v is a good starting point.
I'm currently on -0.06875v with PBO on and Auto Overclock +200mhz


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Old 03-07-2020, 05:15 PM   #4298
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Just curious. Will there be a new series of AMD Cpu in the near future (6 months)??
zen3 will be released this year.
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Old 03-07-2020, 05:47 PM   #4299
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Think don’t bother going down to sls unless you intend to buy the whole PC from them. My brother went to a few stores and those with stock for b550 tomahawk and ryzen 5 3600 didn’t want to sell just the mobo+cpu. They say only sell if buying all components of the PC from them.
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Then just buy from online source since they wanna chut stunt

Think don’t bother going down to sls unless you intend to buy the whole PC from them. My brother went to a few stores and those with stock for b550 tomahawk and ryzen 5 3600 didn’t want to sell just the mobo+cpu. They say only sell if buying all components of the PC from them.
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Think don’t bother going down to sls unless you intend to buy the whole PC from them. My brother went to a few stores and those with stock for b550 tomahawk and ryzen 5 3600 didn’t want to sell just the mobo+cpu. They say only sell if buying all components of the PC from them.
Oh yes that was what vii PC told me last week
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now stock is king, my insider news say some stores dint even get stock..... media mart and pc themes willing to sell combo but i think they sold out le


i just hoot my b550 tomahawk online from shopee...275 before $30 rebate...but ships from malaysia...warranty need go JB liao i think lol
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Waiting for 4000 series coming out september
Wow... that is very near!!
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I managed to bend back the CPU pins. Big operation. Tripod with iphone camera pointing down on the CPU so that I can see the pins clearly. Table top lamp to give extra light.

Several rounds of tests after putting the CPU back. One round without cooler. Just boot up to see if things are okay. Then put cooler and test everything again. Finally close up the case and everything. I have a Deskmini A300 and that makes everything more difficult to disassemble and re-assemble.

I will never itchy backside go change cooler liao......

Guess what. The new cooler is louder than the stock cooler......

All these for NOTHING!
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