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Old 10-09-2019, 06:55 PM   #616
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Prime Now has the Ryzen 2700 for S$256 which is a pretty sweet deal.
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Old 10-09-2019, 07:05 PM   #617
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Anyone pairs a old x370 with ryzen 3700x? is it worth it?
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Old 10-09-2019, 07:19 PM   #618
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Anyone pairs a old x370 with ryzen 3700x? is it worth it?
Works fine. You just don't get PCIE4 and some RAM might not go above 3200 depending on the board. Asus ones seem ok.
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Old 10-09-2019, 08:36 PM   #619
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Anyone pairs a old x370 with ryzen 3700x? is it worth it?
first one month not worth it cuz zen2+navi was too leading edge for asus
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Old 11-09-2019, 07:56 AM   #620
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I submit. cant event do 16-16-16-16-34 with 1.4v
Anyway the tRFC msi board wont let me change individual tRFC.

But thanks all. I'll be a good boy and stay with xmp.

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1 more thing. Ryzen master's cpu voltage is applied upon clicking apply right?
If the voltage is too low, cinebench will auto throw error am i right?
Also is it normal to be able to run 4.25Ghz at below 1.2v for 3600?
Your b-die is the lousier stack of the production. My Teamgroup Nighthawk 3200mhz also come with 16-18-18-36 timing and have very bad time oc-ing above XMP. And yes, typhoon burner report it's Samsung b die hahaha. Just stick to stock and go with it. It's fine and plenty of speed already.

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Old 11-09-2019, 08:25 AM   #621
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Your b-die is the lousier stack of the production. My Teamgroup Nighthawk 3200mhz also come with 16-18-18-36 timing and have very bad time oc-ing above XMP. And yes, typhoon burner report it's Samsung b die hahaha. Just stick to stock and go with it. It's fine and plenty of speed already.

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Ya.. That's why i submit liao haha.. Happy that my CPU can do 4.25 at 1.3, i tried anything more then 4.25Ghz even with 1.4v also cmi.

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Just to check, how much variance in Cinebench points is considered within margin of error? I did 4.25 at 1.3v and 1.2v the difference is within 10 points

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Old 11-09-2019, 08:13 PM   #622
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No idea. But for multicore score, 10 is very small and not notable. It's above margin of error. Typically for me, anything less than 5 could be error as windows scheduler may run something at the background and you won't know. Your scenario could be that the lesser voltage result in lesser boost from time to time in very very short while. Hence it's not notable on performance difference. But temp wise should be very good. 1.2 is a very good undervolt already if you can sustain 4.25ghz all cores.

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Old 11-09-2019, 08:46 PM   #623
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No idea. But for multicore score, 10 is very small and not notable. It's above margin of error. Typically for me, anything less than 5 could be error as windows scheduler may run something at the background and you won't know. Your scenario could be that the lesser voltage result in lesser boost from time to time in very very short while. Hence it's not notable on performance difference. But temp wise should be very good. 1.2 is a very good undervolt already if you can sustain 4.25ghz all cores.

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You all close all app when do cinebench ah? i have browser etc running on background.

Also temp wise 1.2 and 1.3 jump same temp on ryzen master leh.. i duno something wrong anot.
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Old 11-09-2019, 10:05 PM   #624
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A close call between 2 premium boards...

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Old 11-09-2019, 11:21 PM   #625
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A close call between 2 premium boards...

It would be a close call if, the HERO isn't priced 200 dollars more expensive in Singapore then the aorus master. In the US they are priced the same. Why the hell is there a giant mark up for Singapore? So basically the Aorus master is the best amount them, for singaporeans.
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Old 11-09-2019, 11:26 PM   #626
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It would be a close call if, the HERO isn't priced 200 dollars more expensive in Singapore then the aorus master. In the US they are priced the same. Why the hell is there a giant mark up for Singapore? So basically the Aorus master is the best amount them, for singaporeans.
can always go for the Formula, which is priced cheaper than MSRP.
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It would be a close call if, the HERO isn't priced 200 dollars more expensive in Singapore then the aorus master. In the US they are priced the same. Why the hell is there a giant mark up for Singapore? So basically the Aorus master is the best amount them, for singaporeans.
It's because when people see Asus Crosshair blah blah blah, instantly associate with high end board, hence the pricing in Sg. The X570 Crosshair VIII Formula is the high end one, the X570 Crosshair VIII Hero is more mid-high tier. That's why it isn't worth paying premium price for mid-high board (dunno why local distro is trying to dupe peeps with the excessive pricing).

The X570 Aorus Xtreme and Asus X570 Crosshair VIII Formula are actually priced similarly to the MSI X570 Godlike, which is waaaay overpriced here initially, I recall seeing 1.2k SGD for the Godlike, that's why I'd gotten the Aorus Xtreme because, like the Crosshair VIII Formula, it's priced below MSRP of 700USD.
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A close call between 2 premium boards...

Good!

Picked Arous master because it is cheaper than asus here. The design looks clean and understated.

Vrm and chipset temps are cool (38 ~ 47), the fan, with 2 nvme drives, never spin after bootup. 2600 overclock to 4ghz on stock 1.13v LLC high.

Only issue the bios a lot of options lacking and with csm off, it lagging.
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Old 12-09-2019, 12:58 AM   #629
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Asrock Gaming X is a new board ah? never see it during release
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Asrock Gaming X is a new board ah? never see it during release
It's just x570 Taichi with a red colour scheme and a name change. It was overlooked during launch in favour of Taichi.

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