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hg2 21-07-2019 08:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nckai (Post 121839018)
Hello peeps, any comments for this build?

3700X, Gigabyte X570 Aorus Master, Corsair Vengeance Pro 3200 32GB, Sabrent Rocket PCIe 4 1TB

Upgrading from 4790k.

Thanks!

All plug& play...should work out-of-box:s13:

(1) Any Ryzen 3000 is a good CPU!

(2) Aorus X570 has sufficient VRM, and Gigabyte bios is easy to configure, if you don't understand any parameter simply default to auto. Do take note that, first boots will take longer time for the board to recognise the CPU.
Happy with my Aorus X570i + AGESA 1.0.03AB, stable like a rock!

(3) using 2x16GB Vengeance RBG PRO in XMP ,so far so good.
Although bios has Corsair XMP profile1, but it simply cannot auto configure to 1:1:1 ratio with infinity fabric. In the end have to manually tune all in bios, which I hate to do.

(4) PICE4 SSD, GPU is the future. Do be aware 3700x, do not include a GPU, u will definitely need a RTX/RX card to boot.

Your mileage may varies, what I found as important :
Memory - If you have not purchase yet, search look for 3600 MHz DDR4, as it can unlock the Ryzen CPU to the advertised speed with AGESA 1.0.0.3AB. Another common sense thingy, 2 identical sticks for performance.
PSU - u need more then 600W if you go with RTX2080/RX5700XT. Otherwise 600W has sufficient power for oc...
Cooling - Stock fan works in SG. AIO will be handy for light overclocking, tweaking and prevent bricking the CPU if you accidentally set the vcore voltage too high. Always remember e magic number <1.38v for vcore, you will be ok...:D
Win10 - update 1903 with AMD Ryzen optimisations

Started with no intention to oc like everyone here, but cannot control myself after a while and start tweaking, and having fun OCing this weekends...

Google+YouTube is your best friends... and have fun time with ur new rig!

toshiro_sg 21-07-2019 08:52 AM

is there any ddr4 3600 16gb x 2 with low cas available in SG or need to buy online?
can't seems to find it in price list.

sumantochong 21-07-2019 09:06 AM

How much your total build rig cost without monitor?

Quote:

Originally Posted by hg2 (Post 121842343)
All plug& play...should work out-of-box:s13:

(1) Any Ryzen 3000 is a good CPU!

(2) Aorus X570 has sufficient VRM, and Gigabyte bios is easy to configure, if you don't understand any parameter simply default to auto. Do take note that, first boots will take longer time for the board to recognise the CPU.
Happy with my Aorus X570i + AGESA 1.0.03AB, stable like a rock!

(3) using 2x16GB Vengeance RBG PRO in XMP ,so far so good.
Although bios has Corsair XMP profile1, but it simply cannot auto configure to 1:1:1 ratio with infinity fabric. In the end have to manually tune all in bios, which I hate to do.

(4) PICE4 SSD, GPU is the future. Do be aware 3700x, do not include a GPU, u will definitely need a RTX/RX card to boot.

Your mileage may varies, what I found as important :
Memory - If you have not purchase yet, search look for 3600 MHz DDR4, as it can unlock the Ryzen CPU to the advertised speed with AGESA 1.0.0.3AB. Another common sense thingy, 2 identical sticks for performance.
PSU - u need more then 600W if you go with RTX2080/RX5700XT. Otherwise 600W has sufficient power for oc...
Cooling - Stock fan works in SG. AIO will be handy for light overclocking, tweaking and prevent bricking the CPU if you accidentally set the vcore voltage too high. Always remember e magic number <1.38v for vcore, you will be ok...:D
Win10 - update 1903 with AMD Ryzen optimisations

Started with no intention to oc like everyone here, but cannot control myself after a while and start tweaking, and having fun OCing this weekends...

Google+YouTube is your best friends... and have fun time with ur new rig!


koroshiya8 21-07-2019 09:23 AM

not bad................

hg2 21-07-2019 09:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by toshiro_sg (Post 121842647)
is there any ddr4 3600 16gb x 2 with low cas available in SG or need to buy online?
can't seems to find it in price list.

Saw a few G-Skill 3600 around Dynacore, not sure if the stock has been taken or reserved.
Hard to find off-the-shelves, either pre-order thru distributor or source online. That's why I just go ahead with average Corsair 3200 DDR4 first, and it could be one reason why my rig never achieve 4.6Mhz max speed for 3900x, even with latest bios AGESA 1.0.0.3AB.

Quick peek, 7203 cinebenchR20 stock speed and room temperature of 30c.
Can squeeze another 20+pts with aircon 25c + PBO. No BSOD, reboot, solid as a rock....

https://i.postimg.cc/rmyvQJF2/Capture.png

oredi pretty Kickass compared to this similar setup with 3600 DDR4, air-cooled score of 7047 R20. ( so hard to justify a 3600 DDR4 for tiny CPU gain of 100Hz )



Totally stomp a 5K AuroraR8 9900K, and I must say Ryzen3000 are impressive at this price point for the performance and stability really cannot complaint AMD this time round lah!

nckai 21-07-2019 10:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hg2 (Post 121842343)
All plug& play...should work out-of-box:s13:

(1) Any Ryzen 3000 is a good CPU!

(2) Aorus X570 has sufficient VRM, and Gigabyte bios is easy to configure, if you don't understand any parameter simply default to auto. Do take note that, first boots will take longer time for the board to recognise the CPU.
Happy with my Aorus X570i + AGESA 1.0.03AB, stable like a rock!

(3) using 2x16GB Vengeance RBG PRO in XMP ,so far so good.
Although bios has Corsair XMP profile1, but it simply cannot auto configure to 1:1:1 ratio with infinity fabric. In the end have to manually tune all in bios, which I hate to do.

(4) PICE4 SSD, GPU is the future. Do be aware 3700x, do not include a GPU, u will definitely need a RTX/RX card to boot.

Your mileage may varies, what I found as important :
Memory - If you have not purchase yet, search look for 3600 MHz DDR4, as it can unlock the Ryzen CPU to the advertised speed with AGESA 1.0.0.3AB. Another common sense thingy, 2 identical sticks for performance.
PSU - u need more then 600W if you go with RTX2080/RX5700XT. Otherwise 600W has sufficient power for oc...
Cooling - Stock fan works in SG. AIO will be handy for light overclocking, tweaking and prevent bricking the CPU if you accidentally set the vcore voltage too high. Always remember e magic number <1.38v for vcore, you will be ok...:D
Win10 - update 1903 with AMD Ryzen optimisations

Started with no intention to oc like everyone here, but cannot control myself after a while and start tweaking, and having fun OCing this weekends...

Google+YouTube is your best friends... and have fun time with ur new rig!

Wow! Thanks for the analysis! I will be using my existing GPU and PSU for this new rig so they were not mentioned. Not likely to be overclocking but thinking of Noctua NH-15S to keep the temperature low though.

Actually, the RAM was the first thing I purchased amongst all those I've mentioned. Guess I will really have to wait till BF for RAM deals.

haylui 21-07-2019 11:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hg2 (Post 121843357)
Saw a few G-Skill 3600 around Dynacore, not sure if the stock has been taken or reserved.
Hard to find off-the-shelves, either pre-order thru distributor or source online. That's why I just go ahead with average Corsair 3200 DDR4 first, and it could be one reason why my rig never achieve 4.6Mhz max speed for 3900x, even with latest bios AGESA 1.0.0.3AB.

Quick peek, 7203 cinebenchR20 stock speed and room temperature of 30c.
Can squeeze another 20+pts with aircon 25c + PBO. No BSOD, reboot, solid as a rock....

https://i.postimg.cc/rmyvQJF2/Capture.png

oredi pretty Kickass compared to this similar setup with 3600 DDR4, air-cooled score of 7047 R20. ( so hard to justify a 3600 DDR4 for tiny CPU gain of 100Hz )



Totally stomp a 5K AuroraR8 9900K, and I must say Ryzen3000 are impressive at this price point for the performance and stability really cannot complaint AMD this time round lah!

If Ryzen 3000 is not this good. I think pretty much some people in this forum will laugh at AMD users...but now they seems to be vanished (and wait until Intel has substantial lead again)

hg2 21-07-2019 11:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nckai (Post 121844154)
Noctua NH-15S to keep the temperature low though.

Noctua fans, no1 choice for air-cool. Ryzen's prism also not too shabby...
Depending on the casing, mine's a SFF build so either a low profile cooler and risk toasting the board+cpu, or AIO liquid. Choice is very simple...

FD Trinitron 21-07-2019 11:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hg2 (Post 121842343)
All plug& play...should work out-of-box:s13:

(1) Any Ryzen 3000 is a good CPU!

(2) Aorus X570 has sufficient VRM, and Gigabyte bios is easy to configure, if you don't understand any parameter simply default to auto. Do take note that, first boots will take longer time for the board to recognise the CPU.
Happy with my Aorus X570i + AGESA 1.0.03AB, stable like a rock!

(3) using 2x16GB Vengeance RBG PRO in XMP ,so far so good.
Although bios has Corsair XMP profile1, but it simply cannot auto configure to 1:1:1 ratio with infinity fabric. In the end have to manually tune all in bios, which I hate to do.

(4) PICE4 SSD, GPU is the future. Do be aware 3700x, do not include a GPU, u will definitely need a RTX/RX card to boot.

Your mileage may varies, what I found as important :
Memory - If you have not purchase yet, search look for 3600 MHz DDR4, as it can unlock the Ryzen CPU to the advertised speed with AGESA 1.0.0.3AB. Another common sense thingy, 2 identical sticks for performance.
PSU - u need more then 600W if you go with RTX2080/RX5700XT. Otherwise 600W has sufficient power for oc...
Cooling - Stock fan works in SG. AIO will be handy for light overclocking, tweaking and prevent bricking the CPU if you accidentally set the vcore voltage too high. Always remember e magic number <1.38v for vcore, you will be ok...:D
Win10 - update 1903 with AMD Ryzen optimisations

Started with no intention to oc like everyone here, but cannot control myself after a while and start tweaking, and having fun OCing this weekends...

Google+YouTube is your best friends... and have fun time with ur new rig!

Good advice.
What's your recommendation for DDR4 RGB memory with 3900X ?

nckai 21-07-2019 11:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hg2 (Post 121844491)
Noctua fans, no1 choice for air-cool. Ryzen's prism also not too shabby...
Depending on the casing, mine's a SFF build so either a low profile cooler and risk toasting the board+cpu, or AIO liquid. Choice is very simple...

Am using AIO at the moment and I had given the thought of reusing it, but the fear of leakage gotten into me. Furthermore, it's coming to 5 years, the chances of malfunctioning also higher.

My case is the old (but gold? :D) Corsair 760T, should be spacious enough to accommodate the Noctua.

zeroboi 21-07-2019 11:36 AM

For a budget build, do you all recommend Gigabyte Aorus Elite X570?
I saw the VRM review, seems impressive but my only worry is the 4-layers PCB. Wonder if its worth the extra to upgrade to Aorus Pro for its 6 layers PCB

hg2 21-07-2019 11:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FD Trinitron (Post 121844537)
Good advice.
What's your recommendation for DDR4 RGB memory with 3900X ?

Proper tuned 3200 running 1:1:1 ratio with infinity fabric at 1600, is oredi pretty kick-ass in my reply reply... can easily out-benched Pauls' Hardware air-cooled 3600 build.

Don't waste ur life searching for 3600 in SG...there are better things to do...:s13:

hg2 21-07-2019 12:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by zeroboi (Post 121844804)
For a budget build, do you all recommend Gigabyte Aorus Elite X570?
I saw the VRM review, seems impressive but my only worry is the 4-layers PCB. Wonder if its worth the extra to upgrade to Aorus Pro for its 6 layers PCB

>6 layers premium boards usually for server class boards running 24x7x365.
If you don't plan to use PCIE4 RX5700XT, SSD, or OC. Don't see any reason to have anything more than the 4layers found in X470/B450. This board should hold, with proper heatsink coolings.

Just that the MBTF numbers are lower benchmarked side-by-side against a 6layers board... :s11:

FD Trinitron 21-07-2019 01:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hg2 (Post 121845027)
Proper tuned 3200 running 1:1:1 ratio with infinity fabric at 1600, is oredi pretty kick-ass in my reply reply... can easily out-benched Pauls' Hardware air-cooled 3600 build.

Don't waste ur life searching for 3600 in SG...there are better things to do...:s13:

Nope I didn't ask for 3600 DDR4, just need 3200 RGB sticks to run stabily on 3900X.

toshiro_sg 21-07-2019 01:32 PM

if want go 32gb is it better with 4 x 8gb @3200 or 2 x 16gb @3600?


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