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Old 12-10-2018, 12:28 AM   #1
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Building gaming pc - Need advice

Hi all, I'm building a new gaming PC. I intend to play games such as Fortnite, Overwatch, Tomb Raider & Guild Wars 2 ec. My Budget is $1500. Any advice regarding this build?

- AMD Ryzen 5 2600X ($475 Tradepac)
- Asus TUF B450-Plus Gaming (bundled)
- KLEVV Bolt 2666MHZ CL16, 8GB x 2pcs ($230 PC Themes)
- LITEON MU3 240GB SSD ($69 PC Themes)
- Toshiba 1TB HDD ($52 Tradepac)
- Sapphire RTX580 8GB ($399 including Free Gaming Bundle, Convergent)
- Andyson 650W PSU (re-use)
- Casing ???
- Monitor ??? (I'm using a very old Samsung 22" LCD screen, 1920 x 1080, 60hz)

Total: $1225


I have some questions

1) I7-8700K VS Ryzen 2600X. Any recommendations? From what I read, Ryzen seems more value for money, for a slight dip in performance.

2) I read that some Ryzen users suffer from heat issues in their pc. If I get Ryzen, should I invest in an additional fan? E.g. ID Cooling Frost flow +120 ($58 PC Themes)

3) Is it worth spending a little more for 3000mhz/3200mhz ram sticks for Ryzen 2600x? I don't overclock.

4) Sapphire RTX580 8GB ($399 + Gaming Bundle, Convergent) vs Galax GTX1060 6GB OC ($389 PC Themes). Any recommendations? They seem close in performance.


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Old 12-10-2018, 01:48 AM   #2
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1. Get from the same shop. Better prices if you get all from PC Themes.

2. Asus TUF is not good. Get an Asrock instead.

3. GPU, better to get 1060 6gb.

4. Andyson PSU -> I don't trust this.

5. You heard of heat issues with Ryzen? TDP and power usage are lower than Intel, so please list your sources otherwise it's just ignorant rumor.

6. If Ryzen, get faster RAM. Remember to enable the faster speeds in BIOS.
Processor
AMD Ryzen 1800X
Mainboard
MSI x370 Titanium
Graphics Card
MSI 1080Ti X Gamer
Memory
32GB G.Skill TridentZ DDR4 RGB
Display
Dell U3415W
Storage
Samsung 960 Pro M.2
Optical Storage
Who needs one
Casing
NZXT H440
PSU
Seasonic 650W
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Creative Labs X-Fi Platinum
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Windows 10 Pro 64

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Old 12-10-2018, 07:03 AM   #3
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1. 8700K is a big notch improvement vs 2600X pls. The price gap got reason with your budget range, go for 2600X ba. No point forking out more for CPU only and downgrade everything.

2. Ryzen suffering from heat? Where did you read that? Try the 8700K without delid, then compare to Ryzen and see. Also, delid void warranty. The only reason Ryzen can overheat, is an inadequate OC by the user.

3. Yes, worth spending a tad bit more for 3000mhz and up. No OC nvm, since you're getting 2600X anyway. With higher speed RAM, remember go into BIOS and activate the XMP for the RAM to run at higher speed as per intended.

4. Sapphire deal looks sweeter.

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Graphics Card
GALAX GTX 1080 Ti EXOC Black
Memory
G.Skill Trident Z RGB 3200MHz C14 (3333MHz @ 14-14-14-28-42, 1.38V) 32GB Kit (4x8GB)
Display
Aftershock Prism+ Z270 (1440p, 60Hz, 5ms GTG, VA Panel)
Storage
WD Black NVMe SSD 500GB (BOOT), Crucial MX300 SATAIII 750GB (GAME)
Optical Storage
In Unicorn Land
Casing
Lian Li PC-O11 Dynamic White (6x Corsair SP120 RGB, 2x NZXT Aer P 140mm)
PSU
EVGA G3 750W
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Old 12-10-2018, 07:05 AM   #4
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Get a new PSU pls. Superflower Leadex ECO Silver 500/600W is good for within $100

Casing up to you. For budget, I always recommend getting Fractal Design Focus G for $75

Monitor reuse until it breaks down.

Get everything from PC Themes as suggested above. Bargain it down a bit to match Tradepac price

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Graphics Card
GALAX GTX 1080 Ti EXOC Black
Memory
G.Skill Trident Z RGB 3200MHz C14 (3333MHz @ 14-14-14-28-42, 1.38V) 32GB Kit (4x8GB)
Display
Aftershock Prism+ Z270 (1440p, 60Hz, 5ms GTG, VA Panel)
Storage
WD Black NVMe SSD 500GB (BOOT), Crucial MX300 SATAIII 750GB (GAME)
Optical Storage
In Unicorn Land
Casing
Lian Li PC-O11 Dynamic White (6x Corsair SP120 RGB, 2x NZXT Aer P 140mm)
PSU
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Old 12-10-2018, 01:38 PM   #5
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Thanks everyone for your advice. I will likely get Ryzen 2600X.

One final question. Any recommendation on the brand/model of motherboard? There's so many diff models for each brand. I'm considering:
- MSI B450 Gaming Plus ($476)
- Asrock B450 Pro4 ($473)
- Gigabyte AORUS B450 PRO M ($474)
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Old 12-10-2018, 02:41 PM   #6
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MSI or Asrock, I'm leaning towards MSI.

No gigabyte. Say no to vcore spiking!

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AMD Ryzen 7 1700 w/ NZXT Kraken X62 (3.90GHz @ 1.3865V, LLC3)
Mainboard
Asus Strix X370-F Gaming (BIOS v4012)
Graphics Card
GALAX GTX 1080 Ti EXOC Black
Memory
G.Skill Trident Z RGB 3200MHz C14 (3333MHz @ 14-14-14-28-42, 1.38V) 32GB Kit (4x8GB)
Display
Aftershock Prism+ Z270 (1440p, 60Hz, 5ms GTG, VA Panel)
Storage
WD Black NVMe SSD 500GB (BOOT), Crucial MX300 SATAIII 750GB (GAME)
Optical Storage
In Unicorn Land
Casing
Lian Li PC-O11 Dynamic White (6x Corsair SP120 RGB, 2x NZXT Aer P 140mm)
PSU
EVGA G3 750W
Audio
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Old 12-10-2018, 04:34 PM   #7
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5. You heard of heat issues with Ryzen? TDP and power usage are lower than Intel, so please list your sources otherwise it's just ignorant rumor.
I know it's not relevant, but since you bring up TDP, do you know AMD and Intel TDP are not comparable?

AMD's TDP is close to the electrical maximum a CPU can draw (when it is operating at its maximum voltage).

Intel's TDP is a "round up" average of power measurements of processor intensive benchmarks.

When it comes to TDP, ,it's pretty confusing about the way TDP is measure from both party. So we should just ignore this completely.

https://www.anandtech.com/show/2807/2

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Old 12-10-2018, 05:46 PM   #8
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Thanks again for your advice and insights. Kinda noob abt all these, will read up more!
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Old 12-10-2018, 07:34 PM   #9
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MSI or Asrock, I'm leaning towards MSI.

No gigabyte. Say no to vcore spiking!

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No gigabyte in general or just for amd platform?

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Storage
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No gigabyte in general or just for amd platform?

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In general. I don't like their bios too

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Mainboard
Asus Strix X370-F Gaming (BIOS v4012)
Graphics Card
GALAX GTX 1080 Ti EXOC Black
Memory
G.Skill Trident Z RGB 3200MHz C14 (3333MHz @ 14-14-14-28-42, 1.38V) 32GB Kit (4x8GB)
Display
Aftershock Prism+ Z270 (1440p, 60Hz, 5ms GTG, VA Panel)
Storage
WD Black NVMe SSD 500GB (BOOT), Crucial MX300 SATAIII 750GB (GAME)
Optical Storage
In Unicorn Land
Casing
Lian Li PC-O11 Dynamic White (6x Corsair SP120 RGB, 2x NZXT Aer P 140mm)
PSU
EVGA G3 750W
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In general. I don't like their bios too

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But why??

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Old 12-10-2018, 08:14 PM   #12
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gigabyte don't bother about their bios.
Processor
Ryzen 7 1800x w/ Be Quiet! Dark Rock 4 (3.9GHz@ 1.38125v)
Mainboard
Asrock AB350M
Graphics Card
EVGA GTX 1080TI Founders Edition 11G
Memory
Corsair LPX 3000 MHZ 2x8 GB
Display
DELL U2417H
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Old 12-10-2018, 08:39 PM   #13
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But why??

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Confusing, not user friendly. Slow updates. Run at higher vcore than other brands at stock settings. Inefficient vrm heatsink design. Fake vrm phase count (refer buildzoid).

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Graphics Card
GALAX GTX 1080 Ti EXOC Black
Memory
G.Skill Trident Z RGB 3200MHz C14 (3333MHz @ 14-14-14-28-42, 1.38V) 32GB Kit (4x8GB)
Display
Aftershock Prism+ Z270 (1440p, 60Hz, 5ms GTG, VA Panel)
Storage
WD Black NVMe SSD 500GB (BOOT), Crucial MX300 SATAIII 750GB (GAME)
Optical Storage
In Unicorn Land
Casing
Lian Li PC-O11 Dynamic White (6x Corsair SP120 RGB, 2x NZXT Aer P 140mm)
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EVGA G3 750W
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Old 12-10-2018, 09:16 PM   #14
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Confusing, not user friendly. Slow updates. Run at higher vcore than other brands at stock settings. Inefficient vrm heatsink design. Fake vrm phase count (refer buildzoid).

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Then which mobo vendor would you recommend?

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Storage
WD 80GB, Seagate 160GB, WD 250GB
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Old 12-10-2018, 10:42 PM   #15
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Then which mobo vendor would you recommend?

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Asus, if you willing to pay. Hahaha

The bios is much more polished.

Not all lar, but some models are pretty well built. Do some research and buy the right one. No regrets.

MSI is also confusing, but not as badly as Gigabyte. Asrock still uses something similar to the old Asus, so I can accept that as well.

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Mainboard
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Graphics Card
GALAX GTX 1080 Ti EXOC Black
Memory
G.Skill Trident Z RGB 3200MHz C14 (3333MHz @ 14-14-14-28-42, 1.38V) 32GB Kit (4x8GB)
Display
Aftershock Prism+ Z270 (1440p, 60Hz, 5ms GTG, VA Panel)
Storage
WD Black NVMe SSD 500GB (BOOT), Crucial MX300 SATAIII 750GB (GAME)
Optical Storage
In Unicorn Land
Casing
Lian Li PC-O11 Dynamic White (6x Corsair SP120 RGB, 2x NZXT Aer P 140mm)
PSU
EVGA G3 750W
Audio
Creative GigaWorks T20 Series II
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