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Op_Valkyrie 11-05-2017 11:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by testerjp (Post 107956386)
I advise you to save up for a good and proper chair than keep buying a $300 chair that barely works and only last a few years. Don't work still nevermind, scare the chair makes your posture worse.

My Herman Miller, already last 10+ years and is still like new. Their chairs were among the first to be designed together with orthopaedics and drs. It was my Ortho who recommended Herman Miller chairs.

You are buying for your back, not just for sitting. You may not have back issues now but if you keep sitting with a poor posture for a long time or sit in a lousy chair that makes your posture worse, the disc will eventually misalign. Your back muscles will not grow proportionally and further worsen the posture in all position- Sit/Stand/Sleep.

Anytime, the disc will give way and it's permanent, staying with you for life and you will have a lifelong of aches and restriction in movement. Example: Cannot lift your leg up, you will move like a granny.
It will only get worse and worse and it's very hard to reverse back.

When I had my slipped disc, I though my muscles were torn. At night wanna go toilet from bed, the pain was so scary until I had to roll down the bed then slowly pull myself up. From stand to bed position, stare at the bed for 5 mins also don't dare to go down, cause really hurt like crazy. MRI then show that I have slipped disc from L4 to S1 due to poor posture. The strong painkiller is bad for kidney or stomach, so you won't want to depend on it

Then you will know that paying S$1k more for the chair is better than paying S$10k for medical checks, pain reliefs, and remedies.

The HM gave me the most improvement and relief, now almost fully recovered but will still recur if sit on crappy chairs for some time.

I also have Steelcase's think chair and have tried many brands at the showroom, Herman Miller is clearly better.

agree with what you mentioned bro... our back and good sitting posture are very impt, i don really get the game chair thingy tbh... quite cringing and gimmick to me.

I might be going to hoot a 2nd aeron... as its really worth the comfort in a long run

S$1k sg don have this price.... now its like 1.8-1.9k minimum....

yaqin123 11-05-2017 11:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by testerjp (Post 107956386)
I advise you to save up for a good and proper chair than keep buying a $300 chair that barely works and only last a few years. Don't work still nevermind, scare the chair makes your posture worse.

My Herman Miller, already last 10+ years and is still like new. Their chairs were among the first to be designed together with orthopaedics and drs. It was my Ortho who recommended Herman Miller chairs.

You are buying for your back, not just for sitting. You may not have back issues now but if you keep sitting with a poor posture for a long time or sit in a lousy chair that makes your posture worse, the disc will eventually misalign. Your back muscles will not grow proportionally and further worsen the posture in all position- Sit/Stand/Sleep.

Anytime, the disc will give way and it's permanent, staying with you for life and you will have a lifelong of aches and restriction in movement. Example: Cannot lift your leg up, you will move like a granny.
It will only get worse and worse and it's very hard to reverse back.

When I had my slipped disc, I though my muscles were torn. At night wanna go toilet from bed, the pain was so scary until I had to roll down the bed then slowly pull myself up. From stand to bed position, stare at the bed for 5 mins also don't dare to go down, cause really hurt like crazy. MRI then show that I have slipped disc from L4 to S1 due to poor posture. The strong painkiller is bad for kidney or stomach, so you won't want to depend on it

Then you will know that paying S$1k more for the chair is better than paying S$10k for medical checks, pain reliefs, and remedies.

The HM gave me the most improvement and relief, now almost fully recovered but will still recur if sit on crappy chairs for some time.

I also have Steelcase's think chair and have tried many brands at the showroom, Herman Miller is clearly better.

alright. thanks for the clarity, really helps. Much appreciated. never been good with science and the stuff. so dont really know what is good and whats not. this really helped cleared up some stuff. Whats more, i am riding a very aggresive bike, my back hurts when travelling. so will need the relaxation when doing work at home :) lucky went to this thread and had a discussion if not money wasted on something useless. shall save up for one then.

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hi guys, how do you clean a mesh chair?

testerjp 12-05-2017 01:58 AM

See the problem with this chair

http://i.imgur.com/q3BUAe7.png

I haven't even elaborate the problem with the tilt and adjustments yet.

These type of china made chairs are damn anyhow.
Many use cheap, recycled and unstable material made into synthetic foam, which releases a lot of VOC that are carcinogens, no wonder many non-smokers get lung cancer nowadays. :(


The chairs also don't know one day will give way and explode not. Happened a few times in China.

https://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media...4nq0xxujpg.jpg

http://inventorspot.com/files/images...0513143227.jpg

http://i2.asntown.net/4/69213__468x_...ims-girl-2.jpg

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/Gp8FDSIO6_8/hqdefault.jpg

Don't get something that you expect to solve your problem, to give you grave problems instead. :o

LiLAsN 12-05-2017 03:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by testerjp (Post 107958460)
See the problem with this chair

http://i.imgur.com/q3BUAe7.png

I haven't even elaborate the problem with the tilt and adjustments yet.

These type of china made chairs are damn anyhow.
Many use cheap, recycled and unstable material made into synthetic foam, which releases a lot of VOC that are carcinogens, no wonder many non-smokers get lung cancer nowadays. :(


The chairs also don't know one day will give way and explode not. Happened a few times in China.

https://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media...4nq0xxujpg.jpg

http://inventorspot.com/files/images...0513143227.jpg

http://i2.asntown.net/4/69213__468x_...ims-girl-2.jpg

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/Gp8FDSIO6_8/hqdefault.jpg

Don't get something that you expect to solve your problem, to give you grave problems instead. :o

Exactly why I never ever use that head pillow. Makes no absolute sense.
Myself, standing in the MRT already at times can be painful including sitting down. My Secretlab Titan with its adjustable lumbar when set correctly, does not cause me to get any back pain.

However, to be frank, it the seat does get slightly warm without aircon. Just my 2 cents. It does look nice when people sees such a chair vs seeing an office chair which an average person like me would not be able to tell a Herman Miller apart or even hear of it prior to being informed vs seeing a racing chair in a room.

Advantage of the Titan is that I can also use it as a normal chair to actually climb up to get something on my top wardrobe cabinet vs using a mesh chair. At times, my friend can use the chair to sleep when there are a few friends over at my place. Especially when watching movies. So to me, the Titan's many features outweigh the con of the butt area is poor at dissipating heat. Other than that, my neck and back remains cool. So no issue there.

Zerocrimson 12-05-2017 10:34 AM

Really useful discussion on ergonomic chairs here.

Can I ask those who own a ErgoHuman chair, is the height of the chair any issue? Not sure if the chair can be adjusted to a height high enough for proper typing posture on a standard table (which is about 75cm high).

stylechap 12-05-2017 10:40 AM

According to test from facebook video, the exploded cylinder is filled with oxygen. Their theory is the oxygen reacts with the grease and friction from sudden loading to explodes. This kind of chair can't slide smoothly.
While the proper one filled with non-reactive gas can slide smoothly.

testerjp 12-05-2017 11:46 AM

Those ergohuman and gaming chairs, I've seem them on alibaba made by China makers since more than a decade ago.

Apparently someone in USA who claim to be a doctor took the ergohuman and sell as a cheaper alternative to Herman miller. For that price ,not worth it.

testerjp 12-05-2017 11:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stylechap (Post 107962568)
According to test from facebook video, the exploded cylinder is filled with oxygen. Their theory is the oxygen reacts with the grease and friction from sudden loading to explodes. This kind of chair can't slide smoothly.
While the proper one filled with non-reactive gas can slide smoothly.

Got article says that manufacturers recycle from old ones.
Got articles also mentioned that the cylinders are too thin.

Many claim to be certified by sgs or other boards but th certs are fake :o

stylechap 12-05-2017 12:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by testerjp (Post 107964087)
Got article says that manufacturers recycle from old ones.
Got articles also mentioned that the cylinders are too thin.

Many claim to be certified by sgs or other boards but th certs are fake :o

Oh well.. That's the risk when there's a few middleman from OEM to rebrand to resellers. Lol
Only when a company design and test their own product then I will trust them.

Diaborex 12-05-2017 12:26 PM

https://www.inkagu.com/products/onli...fice-chair-m21

Anyone bought this chair? Is it any good?

yau_chee 12-05-2017 01:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zerocrimson (Post 107962453)
Really useful discussion on ergonomic chairs here.

Can I ask those who own a ErgoHuman chair, is the height of the chair any issue? Not sure if the chair can be adjusted to a height high enough for proper typing posture on a standard table (which is about 75cm high).

The ergohuman seat height is between 42~50cm. Something I don't like about the mesh chair is that the mesh is too soft when compare to Herman miller and the mesh will sink down too much and not very comfortable for long hours of sitting.

As for the exploded cylinder mostly are class 1 gas cylinder that u won't find it in locally. They're pumped with normal air and using 1mm thick metal for the cylinder wall. The oxygen inside will explode under high heat and pressure due to thin cylinder wall. Both class 3 and class 4 are using 2mm and 2.5mm thick stainless steel with pure gas.

Some cheap chairs u can found locally are class 2 cylinder and those more expensive chairs are using class 3 and 4.
So what's the different?
Class 2 using 1.5mm thick metal wall and will spoilt within 1~3 years due to leakage of gas.
Class 3 using 2mm wall and should last at least 3~5 years.
Class 4 using 2.5mm wall and should last at least 5~8 years of usage.
There should be some wording on the cylinder to show which class they're fall under or u can weight them cause the heavier the better...lol :s13:

http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c2...enshot_268.png
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c2...enshot_269.png
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c2...enshot_270.png

stylechap 12-05-2017 01:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by yau_chee (Post 107965512)
The ergohuman seat height is between 42~50cm. Something I don't like about the mesh chair is that the mesh is too soft when compare to Herman miller and the mesh will sink down too much and not very comfortable for long hours of sitting.

As for the exploded cylinder mostly are class 1 gas cylinder that u won't find it in locally. They're pumped with normal air and using 1mm thick metal for the cylinder wall. The oxygen inside will explode under high heat and pressure due to thin cylinder wall. Both class 3 and class 4 are using 2mm and 2.5mm thick stainless steel with pure gas.

Some cheap chairs u can found locally are class 2 cylinder and those more expensive chairs are using class 3 and 4.
So what's the different?
Class 2 using 1.5mm thick metal wall and will spoilt within 1~3 years due to leakage of gas.
Class 3 using 2mm wall and should last at least 3~5 years.
Class 4 using 2.5mm wall and should last at least 5~8 years of usage.
There should be some wording on the cylinder to show which class they're fall under or u can weight them cause the heavier the better...lol :s13:

http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c2...enshot_268.png
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c2...enshot_269.png
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c2...enshot_270.png

Is this class 1/2/3/4 a standardized category or some taobao seller lingo? Lol

yau_chee 12-05-2017 01:43 PM

World wide standard use to classified gas cylinder but u only can find class 1 & 2 MIC cylinder and not elsewhere. :s8:

Maximus_XXVIII 12-05-2017 01:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by testerjp (Post 107956386)
I advise you to save up for a good and proper chair than keep buying a $300 chair that barely works and only last a few years. Don't work still nevermind, scare the chair makes your posture worse.

My Herman Miller, already last 10+ years and is still like new. Their chairs were among the first to be designed together with orthopaedics and drs. It was my Ortho who recommended Herman Miller chairs.

You are buying for your back, not just for sitting. You may not have back issues now but if you keep sitting with a poor posture for a long time or sit in a lousy chair that makes your posture worse, the disc will eventually misalign. Your back muscles will not grow proportionally and further worsen the posture in all position- Sit/Stand/Sleep.

Anytime, the disc will give way and it's permanent, staying with you for life and you will have a lifelong of aches and restriction in movement. Example: Cannot lift your leg up, you will move like a granny.
It will only get worse and worse and it's very hard to reverse back.

When I had my slipped disc, I though my muscles were torn. At night wanna go toilet from bed, the pain was so scary until I had to roll down the bed then slowly pull myself up. From stand to bed position, stare at the bed for 5 mins also don't dare to go down, cause really hurt like crazy. MRI then show that I have slipped disc from L4 to S1 due to poor posture. The strong painkiller is bad for kidney or stomach, so you won't want to depend on it

Then you will know that paying S$1k more for the chair is better than paying S$10k for medical checks, pain reliefs, and remedies.

The HM gave me the most improvement and relief, now almost fully recovered but will still recur if sit on crappy chairs for some time.

I also have Steelcase's think chair and have tried many brands at the showroom, Herman Miller is clearly better.

Got to agree with you, I had L5-S1 slipped disc some time ago due to bad posture while sitting on normal office chairs at home gaming/working in front of the PC.

Spent thousands of dollars visiting specialist and MRI scan and was recommended to go for surgery.

Decided against surgery and went for physiotherapy instead but it was inconvenient and taking too much of my time.

Therefore, decided to do some online research on ergonomic chairs and found out about HM Aeron. Invested in one about 3 years ago and I have not visited my specialist and physiotherapist ever since.

Daily usage;
Weekdays - +/-6 hours
Weekends - 12+ hours

Sometimes I even nap on my chair since it's so cooling and comfortable:s13:


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