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Old 27-09-2017, 11:14 AM   #781
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just got AMD Ryzen 7 1700X together with MSI B350 Tomahawk Arctic from amazon hopefully can overclock Adata xpg spectrix d40 2400mhz 2x8gb to 2933mhz just by setting xmp2
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Old 27-09-2017, 11:16 AM   #782
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We are now on a paradigm shift where more and more applications will take advantages of multiple cores and threads. Like today's news, firefox quantum.

https://www.techspot.com/news/71150-...x-quantum.html

I predict that 6 cores will be the new 4 cores.
6 core is new 4 core
4 core is new 2 core
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Old 27-09-2017, 09:04 PM   #783
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6 core is new 4 core
4 core is new 2 core
This is nothing new. The mobile SOCs have been battling on cores for a long time. Desktop wise, thanks to the Intel monopoly which resulted in stagnant growth in the mainstream market.
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Old 04-10-2017, 12:35 PM   #784
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Hello all,

been looking to build a r5 1600 mini itx built. problem now is that in terms of pricing, the cheapest i5 7600+mobo bundle is almost $100 less than a r5 1600+mobo bundle!

at that difference is it still worth? am i missing something? ie the cheap mobo for intel has less features

Because it is mini itx unlikely to do much OC (anyway 7600 cant do OC).

Would really appreciate any insights from the bros here. Gum sia gum sia in advance
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Old 04-10-2017, 01:22 PM   #785
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Hello all,

been looking to build a r5 1600 mini itx built. problem now is that in terms of pricing, the cheapest i5 7600+mobo bundle is almost $100 less than a r5 1600+mobo bundle!

at that difference is it still worth? am i missing something? ie the cheap mobo for intel has less features

Because it is mini itx unlikely to do much OC (anyway 7600 cant do OC).

Would really appreciate any insights from the bros here. Gum sia gum sia in advance
Question is do you need 4c4t or 6c12t for your usage.
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Old 04-10-2017, 01:48 PM   #786
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Hello all,

been looking to build a r5 1600 mini itx built. problem now is that in terms of pricing, the cheapest i5 7600+mobo bundle is almost $100 less than a r5 1600+mobo bundle!

at that difference is it still worth? am i missing something? ie the cheap mobo for intel has less features

Because it is mini itx unlikely to do much OC (anyway 7600 cant do OC).

Would really appreciate any insights from the bros here. Gum sia gum sia in advance

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Old 04-10-2017, 04:35 PM   #787
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Hello all,

been looking to build a r5 1600 mini itx built. problem now is that in terms of pricing, the cheapest i5 7600+mobo bundle is almost $100 less than a r5 1600+mobo bundle!

at that difference is it still worth? am i missing something? ie the cheap mobo for intel has less features

Because it is mini itx unlikely to do much OC (anyway 7600 cant do OC).

Would really appreciate any insights from the bros here. Gum sia gum sia in advance
Cos i5 8600 launching soon ma. B250/H270/Z270 Mobo cannot be used with Coffee Lake basically if you buy Kaby Lake and the respective chipset Mobo you can't upgrade in future.

TLDR: they having leylong now.

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Old 04-10-2017, 09:03 PM   #788
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Hi Bro,

Do you mind sharing the components that you have selected for your mini-itx build?
other than mobo i was lloking at

Case: CM 110
GPU: Zotac GTX 1060 6GB mini
Memory: 8gb 3000mhz
PSU: Silverstone SFX 600 W (hard to find SFX PSU and i read that at least 500W needed)


Mainly to use as console/HTPC. GPU prices inflated now so i just take 1060 which I think can last for another 2 years at least
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Old 04-10-2017, 09:05 PM   #789
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Question is do you need 4c4t or 6c12t for your usage.
its going to be for games so i reallty cannot tell honestly. like split views on whether more games will be optimsed for multi core or that single core clock speed will still be main determinant. I dont do much video processing on my comp
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Old 04-10-2017, 09:54 PM   #790
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Even so, the new i3 comes with 4c/4t. In other words, u get kaby lake i5 performance at i3 price....

Either way, still best to wait for kopi
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Old 04-10-2017, 10:53 PM   #791
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Well anyone know interm of per core performance, definitely intel is stronger but the price for these small gains are questionable thou unless your a rich person who doesn't care about pricing wise
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Old 04-10-2017, 11:01 PM   #792
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Even so, the new i3 comes with 4c/4t. In other words, u get kaby lake i5 performance at i3 price....

Either way, still best to wait for kopi
getting an i3 with Z370 MB at premium price make no cents...
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Old 05-10-2017, 12:33 AM   #793
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getting an i3 with Z370 MB at premium price make no cents...
Just wait. Pretty sure new boards will come. Either that or get the k processors. All new k processors actually look attractive.
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Old 05-10-2017, 07:26 AM   #794
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Just wait. Pretty sure new boards will come. Either that or get the k processors. All new k processors actually look attractive.
I don't necessarily agree that the K series is attractive. It's touted as an overclocking chip, but I feel the poor quality TIM used have time and again proved that there is limited OC headroom due to thermal limitation.
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I don't necessarily agree that the K series is attractive. It's touted as an overclocking chip, but I feel the poor quality TIM used have time and again proved that there is limited OC headroom due to thermal limitation.
Delid? der8auer's 3D printed tool. Works well, more so due to the fact that the IHS is attached to the substrate using a thick layer of cheap glue. Scrape off that glue and you've already removed quite a bit of the unnecessary space between the die and the inner surface of the IHS -- that's most of the problem gone. The TIM itself is not going to make such a huge difference (similar to how toothpaste vs. MX-4 between IHS and heatsink makes literally a 1-2C difference).

It's not an expensive workaround (nor is it difficult anymore), and it's not like people buy K processors in order to save money vs. overpriced competing products anyway
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