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MoneyFace =p 10-04-2017 08:22 AM

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Originally Posted by MacClipper (Post 107361444)
This o'c took just a day+ of tinkering at <1.30V, getting the next mere 100MHz+ will probably take a week+ at >1.4+V...

Think better wait for your show and tell instead, when are you getting yours? :D

Depending when they are going to solve all these issues.... :(:(

MoneyFace =p 10-04-2017 08:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Crooni (Post 107358832)
i checked a few combinations, comparing cpu and boards that are closest or same in price alone.

the lower tiered ryzen 1400 gets almost no discounts. whereas the very cheapest g4560 + board gets $20-30.

ryzen 1600 gets ~$10-20, intel gets ~$40-50

ryzen 1700 gets ~$40, intel gets ~$60-70

the 1700x/1800x vs x99 line is similar, both ~$50-70

this is enough to price ryzen combinations above equivalent intel combinations, when they're supposed to be, and are slightly cheaper alone.

meanwhile

https://www.reddit.com/r/Amd/comment...se_of_mobo_at/

us microcenter gives $100 usd discount on ryzen 1700 with purchase of motherboard

SLS retailers are leveraging on the price competitive nature of these Ryzen processor to maximise their profit from these 'combos'. They have certainly forgotten some retailers are also listing on online platform where we can get them cheaper with coupons...

On the other hand, the subsidy on Intel combo do make them very attractive and bargain...

Ferolare 10-04-2017 09:09 AM

But stock Intel cooler :(

Although I'm still holding my breath wrt wraith stealth. Spire has my approval though, considering the highest temp my main cpu reported is about 68C :s34:

MacClipper 10-04-2017 11:35 AM

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Originally Posted by MoneyFace =p (Post 107362527)
Depending when they are going to solve all these issues.... :(:(

What issues are you concerned with?

Present test rig is running like a dream... think less complicated mobo = less potential issues. :)

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Originally Posted by Ferolare (Post 107363130)
Spire has my approval though, considering the highest temp my main cpu reported is about 68C :s34:

Is your Ryzen rig running the RAM at its specced speed?

Ferolare 10-04-2017 11:39 AM

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Originally Posted by MacClipper (Post 107365592)
Is your Ryzen rig running the RAM at its specced speed?

Since day 1 :s34:

Encrypted11 10-04-2017 01:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Ferolare (Post 107365686)
Since day 1 :s34:

Chiur homework with QVL checking and calculated risks on getting a likely single ranked kit did pay off. You hooted early but pretty much make sure the variables, mobo are set before taking them home . :s34:

Your setup might be worth replicating, maybe can sic your corsair kit version, sho satki. :s34:

MacClipper 10-04-2017 01:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Ferolare (Post 107365686)
Since day 1 :s34:

Saw ver5.20 in this Romanian review, which ver. is yours?
http://crazypc.ro/review-corsair-ven...l-channel-kit/

Ferolare 10-04-2017 04:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Encrypted11 (Post 107367237)
Chiur homework with QVL checking and calculated risks on getting a likely single ranked kit did pay off. You hooted early but pretty much make sure the variables, mobo are set before taking them home . :s34:

Your setup might be worth replicating, maybe can sic your corsair kit version, sho satki. :s34:

That reminds me..

I still need to check QVL for B350M-A and LPX 8GB 2666 kit. Using common sense, that kit should work without consulting the list but...

Play safe and worry about other stuffs which may or may not affect performance bah :crazy:

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Originally Posted by MacClipper (Post 107367374)
Saw ver5.20 in this Romanian review, which ver. is yours?
http://crazypc.ro/review-corsair-ven...l-channel-kit/

I won't be able to answer that if I need to physically inspect the chips on the memory module though. I'll see what other info I can dig out

Encrypted11 10-04-2017 05:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Ferolare (Post 107371220)
I won't be able to answer that if I need to physically inspect the chips on the memory module though. I'll see what other info I can dig out

No need to inspect chips luh.
Maybe check the kit label on box if any (with version), then peek into AIDA64 it will most likely pick up the chip manufacturer and rank.
From then on, its abit of guess and check work others can figure on their DRAM lottery.
:crazy::s34:

If there's no indication of version on packaging and you need to open the PC then guess not. :s34:

MoneyFace =p 10-04-2017 06:21 PM

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Originally Posted by MacClipper (Post 107365592)
What issues are you concerned with?

Present test rig is running like a dream... think less complicated mobo = less potential issues. :)


Is your Ryzen rig running the RAM at its specced speed?

Bridge issue, cache latency issue, SMT issue, windows software issue, games performance issue, memory OC issue, motherboard OC options on B350, etc..

I do understand some of them have been addressed with patches and workarounds here and there. But i would prefer them to be natively optimised on software (Windows and games) and hardware (BIOS/UEFI level). On other hand, Intel releases have been largely smooth out of box... :(

haylui 10-04-2017 06:36 PM

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Originally Posted by MoneyFace =p (Post 107372948)
Bridge issue, cache latency issue, SMT issue, windows software issue, games performance issue, memory OC issue, motherboard OC options on B350, etc..

I do understand some of them have been addressed with patches and workarounds here and there. But i would prefer them to be natively optimised on software (Windows and games) and hardware (BIOS/UEFI level). On other hand, Intel releases have been largely smooth out of box... :(

OC issue doesn't count ma.

Ferolare 10-04-2017 07:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Encrypted11 (Post 107371654)
No need to inspect chips luh.
Maybe check the kit label on box if any (with version), then peek into AIDA64 it will most likely pick up the chip manufacturer and rank.
From then on, its abit of guess and check work others can figure on their DRAM lottery.
:crazy::s34:

If there's no indication of version on packaging and you need to open the PC then guess not. :s34:

k saw the images on the site le (hail 2GB mobile data plan)

lazy to open up my pc to peek :crazy:

edit1: hwinfo says it's hynix

edit2/ps: i dont see CMK8GX4M2A2666C16 listed under both asus and gb matx board qvl :eek:

MacClipper 10-04-2017 11:32 PM

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Originally Posted by MoneyFace =p (Post 107372948)
Bridge issue, cache latency issue, SMT issue, windows software issue, games performance issue, memory OC issue, motherboard OC options on B350, etc..

I do understand some of them have been addressed with patches and workarounds here and there. But i would prefer them to be natively optimised on software (Windows and games) and hardware (BIOS/UEFI level). On other hand, Intel releases have been largely smooth out of box... :(

Think need to wait for Ryzen 2...

Intel smooth? Got to delid leh...
http://forums.hardwarezone.com.sg/ha...s-5597710.html

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Originally Posted by haylui (Post 107373259)
OC issue doesn't count ma.

7700K is da best.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ferolare (Post 107373709)
k saw the images on the site le (hail 2GB mobile data plan)

lazy to open up my pc to peek :crazy:

edit1: hwinfo says it's hynix

edit2/ps: i dont see CMK8GX4M2A2666C16 listed under both asus and gb matx board qvl :eek:

Hynix considered not bad liao, the present R5 1600 test rig is now running Micron 2400@2666.

MoneyFace =p 10-04-2017 11:50 PM

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Originally Posted by MacClipper (Post 107378490)
Think need to wait for Ryzen 2...

Intel smooth? Got to delid leh...
http://forums.hardwarezone.com.sg/ha...s-5597710.html


7700K is da best.


Hynix considered not bad liao, the present R5 1600 test rig is now running Micron 2400@2666.

I would say Intel is more of a mod to achieve better result. Intel CPUs have been performing great out of box without need to do anything. Whereas for Ryzen, you can't mod anything to achieve greater OC performance due to their microarch limitation. Not even vCore pump gao gao can hit beyond 4.1GHz. Plus all the unoptimised factors leading to underwhelming performance in key usages... :(

And they got 5.5 years to make things right. But it seemed that Ryzen's development had been rushed. What really went wrong after Jim Keller left?

MoneyFace =p 10-04-2017 11:55 PM

Anyway when is the NDA lifting? SGT 11/4 9pm ah?


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