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Old 17-05-2018, 01:26 PM   #1
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Need advice on my New PCs setup

Hi Guys, currently building 2 PC for my work and I need some advise to make sure I dont overbuy.

First PC will be for mainly Autocad usage, I will be using some old parts.

Second PC will be for Autocad, 3D rendering. Not sure if a i7 processor is too much, and will the 8gb ram be enough?

PC 1 - Autocad, Revit, Sketchup
MSI H310M Pro-M2 & i5- 8500 $395.00
Kingston 8GB 2666MHz $149.00
Crucual MX500 $99.00
Seagate 2TB $81.00
Graphic Card Existing
Seasonic 520W $105.00
Casing Existing
Monitor Existing 24"
Total: $829.00


PC 2 - Autocad, Revit, Sketchup, 3DS Max, Lumion, 3D Rendering
MSI H310M Pro-M2 & i7- 8700 $543.00
Kingston 8GB 2666MHz $149.00
Crucual MX500 $99.00
Seagate 2TB $81.00
Palit GTX1060 3GB $360.00
Seasonic 620W $125.00
Casing $80.00
AOC 27"IPS $319.00
Total $1,756.00

Note: All price from Fuwell. Preferred all parts to be bought from any 1 shop.

Thank you.
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Old 17-05-2018, 03:10 PM   #2
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Hi Guys, currently building 2 PC for my work and I need some advise to make sure I dont overbuy.

First PC will be for mainly Autocad usage, I will be using some old parts.

Second PC will be for Autocad, 3D rendering. Not sure if a i7 processor is too much, and will the 8gb ram be enough?

PC 1 - Autocad, Revit, Sketchup
MSI H310M Pro-M2 & i5- 8500 $395.00
Kingston 8GB 2666MHz $149.00
Crucual MX500 $99.00
Seagate 2TB $81.00
Graphic Card Existing
Seasonic 520W $105.00
Casing Existing
Monitor Existing 24"
Total: $829.00


PC 2 - Autocad, Revit, Sketchup, 3DS Max, Lumion, 3D Rendering
MSI H310M Pro-M2 & i7- 8700 $395.00
Kingston 8GB 2666MHz $149.00
Crucual MX500 $99.00
Seagate 2TB $81.00
Palit GTX1060 3GB $360.00
Seasonic 620W $125.00
Casing $80.00
AOC 27"IPS $319.00
Total $1,608.00

Note: All price from Fuwell. Preferred all parts to be bought from any 1 shop.

Thank you.
PC1 is alright if you wish to have a low powered budget PC.

For PC2, if you are going with i7-8700, go for a better motherboard with better VRM or else your CPU might not perform at it's peak due to not enough watts into the CPU. Try go for B360 or H370 for an i7-8700.

Also do go with 2* 8GB RAM. at least 16GB. For dual channel mode.
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Old 17-05-2018, 06:07 PM   #3
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OK. thks for the reply.

Any reason I should get AMD instead of intel at this moment?


Amended:
PC 2 - Autocad, Revit, Sketchup, 3DS Max, Lumion, 3D Rendering
MSI B360M & i7- 8700 $580.00
G.Skill 16GB 2666MHz $279.00
Crucual MX500 $99.00
Seagate 2TB $81.00
Palit GTX1060 3GB $360.00
Seasonic 620W $125.00
Casing $80.00
AOC 27"IPS $319.00
Total $1,923.00
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Old 17-05-2018, 06:57 PM   #4
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OK. thks for the reply.

Any reason I should get AMD instead of intel at this moment?


Amended:
PC 2 - Autocad, Revit, Sketchup, 3DS Max, Lumion, 3D Rendering
MSI B360M & i7- 8700 $580.00
G.Skill 16GB 2666MHz $279.00
Crucual MX500 $99.00
Seagate 2TB $81.00
Palit GTX1060 3GB $360.00
Seasonic 620W $125.00
Casing $80.00
AOC 27"IPS $319.00
Total $1,923.00
would still think that best u stick to intel for the time being, as i have not sure if those software u using are doing well with new ryzen or not, but if the software company did update with support of ryzen, i think its still alright to go with it.
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Old 17-05-2018, 08:05 PM   #5
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These are for your company? If so consider off the shelves desktop? Unless you wanna be arrowed to troubleshoot
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These are for your company? If so consider off the shelves desktop? Unless you wanna be arrowed to troubleshoot
if for coy, probably hoot imac or mac pro liao
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Old 17-05-2018, 10:07 PM   #7
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Hi Guys, currently building 2 PC for my work and I need some advise to make sure I dont overbuy.

First PC will be for mainly Autocad usage, I will be using some old parts.

Second PC will be for Autocad, 3D rendering. Not sure if a i7 processor is too much, and will the 8gb ram be enough?

PC 1 - Autocad, Revit, Sketchup
MSI H310M Pro-M2 & i5- 8500 $395.00
Kingston 8GB 2666MHz $149.00
Crucual MX500 $99.00
Seagate 2TB $81.00
Graphic Card Existing
Seasonic 520W $105.00
Casing Existing
Monitor Existing 24"
Total: $829.00


PC 2 - Autocad, Revit, Sketchup, 3DS Max, Lumion, 3D Rendering
MSI H310M Pro-M2 & i7- 8700 $543.00
Kingston 8GB 2666MHz $149.00
Crucual MX500 $99.00
Seagate 2TB $81.00
Palit GTX1060 3GB $360.00
Seasonic 620W $125.00
Casing $80.00
AOC 27"IPS $319.00
Total $1,756.00

Note: All price from Fuwell. Preferred all parts to be bought from any 1 shop.

Thank you.

I don't understand. If you are doing so much graphics, 3D and animation related work (ALL rendering), then why aren't you using a Quadro Workstation GFX card optimised for such applications?


There is a significant difference in the rendering speed for such applications.


You get a GTX consumer line if you are the gamer or just want multiple monitors.


Price may be on the high side but the Quadro Workstation cards are built for it. Seriously do consider...
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Old 18-05-2018, 08:39 AM   #8
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OK. thks for the reply.

Any reason I should get AMD instead of intel at this moment?


Amended:
PC 2 - Autocad, Revit, Sketchup, 3DS Max, Lumion, 3D Rendering
MSI B360M & i7- 8700 $580.00
G.Skill 16GB 2666MHz $279.00
Crucual MX500 $99.00
Seagate 2TB $81.00
Palit GTX1060 3GB $360.00
Seasonic 620W $125.00
Casing $80.00
AOC 27"IPS $319.00
Total $1,923.00
Autocad/3DS Max, I used these before. If this pc is for engineering purpose, go with Intel. To see Ryzen support is almost impossible, given how the softwares on engineering sector evolve in years. My suggestion is go with Intel, it may not be the most optimized like 3D Mark softwares, but at least, those software are built based on Intel platform nonetheless.

Also, the high boost and clock on Intel without needing to overclock, is a peace of mind to get. Basically, paying to not tinker, though one can argue how much more worth AMD R5 2600X in comparison with i7-8700 but as I mentioned above, it's about peace of mind and how engineering softwares are built and updated around Intel platform instead of AMD.

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Old 18-05-2018, 11:09 PM   #9
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I don't understand. If you are doing so much graphics, 3D and animation related work (ALL rendering), then why aren't you using a Quadro Workstation GFX card optimised for such applications?


There is a significant difference in the rendering speed for such applications.


You get a GTX consumer line if you are the gamer or just want multiple monitors.


Price may be on the high side but the Quadro Workstation cards are built for it. Seriously do consider...
I was being told that with the same price range, GTX provide more power than Quadro for CAD / 3D rendering purpose. Is that true?
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Old 22-05-2018, 03:53 PM   #11
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I was being told that with the same price range, GTX provide more power than Quadro for CAD / 3D rendering purpose. Is that true?
You are not wrong but it depends on software on how well they utilize your GPU prowess. I suggest you Google the stuff you use with the graphic card you wanna buy, see if anyone bump into any issue or is the GTX cards perform with better price-to-performance ratio.

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Autocad/3DS Max, I used these before. If this pc is for engineering purpose, go with Intel. To see Ryzen support is almost impossible, given how the softwares on engineering sector evolve in years. My suggestion is go with Intel, it may not be the most optimized like 3D Mark softwares, but at least, those software are built based on Intel platform nonetheless.

Also, the high boost and clock on Intel without needing to overclock, is a peace of mind to get. Basically, paying to not tinker, though one can argue how much more worth AMD R5 2600X in comparison with i7-8700 but as I mentioned above, it's about peace of mind and how engineering softwares are built and updated around Intel platform instead of AMD.

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I have built a lot of PC for AutoCAD and 3ds Max users using Ryzen CPUs, and so far they are all perfectly happy with it.
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I have built a lot of PC for AutoCAD and 3ds Max users using Ryzen CPUs, and so far they are all perfectly happy with it.
Well I do agree Ryzen supposedly have no issue running them. Coz I'm one of them who uses Ryzen running engineering softwares as well. Haha

But I'd usually just recommend what others most confident for.

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