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Old 19-01-2017, 07:38 AM   #31
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Quite a lot. Cybermind got list the CPU already but I'm willing to bet they don't have available stock.
Laugh all you want; the H170 for example has 16 PCI-E lanes vs 20 PCI-E lanes on the Z170. It can be a potential problem if you are planning to add a couple of PCI-E M2 drives. Even on the z170 itself I am finding it ridiculous that we have to play musical chairs if we want to connect everything

For example, on my Z170, I am using all six SATA ports right now. (3x HDD, 2x SSD and 1x ODD). If I install another M2 SSD, I can make do my removing my ODD and using a USB ODD instead. On a H170 I will have to sacrifice another of my HDD/SSD. Sure, edge use case you say, but Z170 does have other benefits over H170 besides being able to overclock.

As for mobo reliability, well, I guess maybe it's just a bias of mine, but generally my cheaper mobos tend to have problems like DOA, or develop intermittent problems over the years. Most people have no issues -- many people regard the Asrock Z68 highly but the PCB warps due to its thinness, and the USB 3.0 implementation is poor. Ok, I note that is a Z series mobo and not H series. The point I was trying to make is the corner cutting in same areas in cheaper mobos. E.g. the use of third party controllers vs Intel controllers.

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Old 19-01-2017, 08:48 AM   #32
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Problem is the Pentium is targeted at budget users. I don't think budget users are gonna have 3 hdd 2 ssd and 1 odd/m2 ssd.
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Problem is the Pentium is targeted at budget users. I don't think budget users are gonna have 3 hdd 2 ssd and 1 odd/m2 ssd.
Why not. Buy a cheap cpu with 8GB memory and tons of storage space.
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Old 19-01-2017, 09:11 AM   #34
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Hmm... Lucky I got some spare GPUs lying around if going with Ryzen. But the (needless?) increase in TDP
If you just need a igp display out that will be the pentium already to keep the setup simple, than introducing another hardware and potential point of failure. Raven Ridge is still far.
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Old 19-01-2017, 09:20 AM   #35
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Why not. Buy a cheap cpu with 8GB memory and tons of storage space.
Because most budget users dont need that much space. Some of them cant even use up 1 tb hdd.
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Because most budget users dont need that much space. Some of them cant even use up 1 tb hdd.
I am using i3 6100 with a Asus H110, cost me less than $300 and i hook up 3 HDDs for storage use. lol.

Situation like this call for a budget cpu + mobo.
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Problem is the Pentium is targeted at budget users. I don't think budget users are gonna have 3 hdd 2 ssd and 1 odd/m2 ssd.
Moi Celeron gotch 1 SSD, 4 HDDs, 1 ODD...
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Old 19-01-2017, 10:18 AM   #38
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Because most budget users dont need that much space. Some of them cant even use up 1 tb hdd.
Most of these budget users will be on laptops anyway... I've always thought the main 2 reasons why people will choose a desktop vs a laptop in today's age is to play games, and to have more internal storage. And with the pentium being so cheap, it makes for a good price/performance build paired with a decent gfx and lots of storage (comes in useful for gaming) .

I don't game much but I use lots of storage for photos. Storing raws at 24mp can fill up space very quickly.
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Most of these budget users will be on laptops anyway... I've always thought the main 2 reasons why people will choose a desktop vs a laptop in today's age is to play games, and to have more internal storage. And with the pentium being so cheap, it makes for a good price/performance build paired with a decent gfx and lots of storage (comes in useful for gaming) .

I don't game much but I use lots of storage for photos. Storing raws at 24mp can fill up space very quickly.
Consider a das or nas bah.....

Or maybe even a cloud solution.
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Why not. Buy a cheap cpu with 8GB memory and tons of storage space.
Chance is probably the user will get a symbology or other off the shelf and products than to sit using freebase, uraid or god know what soultion
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Consider a das or nas bah.....

Or maybe even a cloud solution.
Yup I already have an NAS with 3x3tb at the moment. But I mean, all my hdd and ssd are accumulated over the years. If not spoilt yet then just continue using right? Haha
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If you just need a igp display out that will be the pentium already to keep the setup simple, than introducing another hardware and potential point of failure. Raven Ridge is still far.
Yeah, I thought Ryzen will allow that too (even under Naples which is for servers instead of Raven Ridge which is for laptops).

Looks like I better rethink all these, or just wait and recharge more money
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Most of these budget users will be on laptops anyway... I've always thought the main 2 reasons why people will choose a desktop vs a laptop in today's age is to play games, and to have more internal storage. And with the pentium being so cheap, it makes for a good price/performance build paired with a decent gfx and lots of storage (comes in useful for gaming) .

I don't game much but I use lots of storage for photos. Storing raws at 24mp can fill up space very quickly.
With custom laptops from Clevo, I don't see how budget users will be on laptops.

In fact, it is more expensive to game on laptops than desktops
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Budget users wont be on laptop.

They will be on netbook. lol.
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With custom laptops from Clevo, I don't see how budget users will be on laptops.

In fact, it is more expensive to game on laptops than desktops
yep. That's why I said, desktops appeal to those who game. For true budget users who just use the pc occasionally or for general purpose work they will go for laptop. And for gamers, with many games being so large in size nowadays, it's likely they will add more storage over time
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