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Old 11-01-2019, 08:41 PM   #1
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SSD suddenly died

So i recently got an adata su650 960gb as boot drive and storage

this afternoon i unplug it and connect my old sandisk ssd
(if im not wrong, sata data cable was still connected to adata but no sata power)

windows booted up after quite a long time "setting up devices"

after that when remove sandisk and connect back adata, it doesnt work anymore

it is not detected in bios, minitool wizard, testdisk, but appears in disk management. in disk management, it is not initialised and has capacity of 0mb, when try to initialise it gives an error


any idea what cause this problem? or was i so lucky it just randomly died?
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Old 11-01-2019, 08:46 PM   #2
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Sounds like a very very dead SSD. Try switching your SATA cable to another SATA port on the motherboard. You can also try swapping the cable itself.
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Do you have a spare SATA cable to test? And also try another SATA port. What you described sounded like how a failed flash drive will behave, but no harm trying to see if its something else that's faulty.
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Sounds like a very very dead SSD. Try switching your SATA cable to another SATA port on the motherboard. You can also try swapping the cable itself.
Do you have a spare SATA cable to test? And also try another SATA port. What you described sounded like how a failed flash drive will behave, but no harm trying to see if its something else that's faulty.

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all still cannot
wont buy adata again

worst thing cant even rma because scared they see what i have inside
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dun throw away first, try it on other comp when you get the chance.
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Firstly, that is what you get for buying a DRAMless SSD. Find out more on how DRAMless SSDs impact your SSD performance + shortening the SSD life. And as a result, why you should avoid buying cheap SSDs that are DRAMless overall.

SSDs fail catastrophically in that there may be no signs to tell you that it might die. It just either works or it doesn't. Thus why it is advisable to back up to an external slow spinning HDD for personal data backup. I recommend going for trustworthy drives with low failure rates. I don't trust Western Digital ones as quite of few of those drives of mine either failed or is experiencing extremely slow speeds.

Go with the tried and true Samsung SSDs to avoid any headaches. Their Samsung Magician software will also tell you if one of your SSDs are about to become bad thanks to S.M.A.R.T.
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GG to me
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all still cannot
wont buy adata again

worst thing cant even rma because scared they see what i have inside
If you're worry about them snooping around your drive when you RMA it (ain't suppose to happen, but hey~), there are software out there that can wipe your disk pretty clean.
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If you're worry about them snooping around your drive when you RMA it (ain't suppose to happen, but hey~), there are software out there that can wipe your disk pretty clean.
can recommend? problem is now most software cant even detect it, how to wipe it
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There's this: https://www.lifewire.com/use-the-for...-drive-2626162

And there's this: https://www.easeus.com/partition-man...wipe-disk.html
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Old 12-01-2019, 12:12 PM   #11
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So i recently got an adata su650 960gb as boot drive and storage

this afternoon i unplug it and connect my old sandisk ssd
(if im not wrong, sata data cable was still connected to adata but no sata power)

windows booted up after quite a long time "setting up devices"

after that when remove sandisk and connect back adata, it doesnt work anymore

it is not detected in bios, minitool wizard, testdisk, but appears in disk management. in disk management, it is not initialised and has capacity of 0mb, when try to initialise it gives an error


any idea what cause this problem? or was i so lucky it just randomly died?

Without power the SSD might able to continue to work but may have some problem in detecting it correctly... as in your statement "setting up devices" indicated.

There are several possibilities you have have overlooked and/or not remembered certain issues.

Do check on the connectors on both SSD and cable for any damaged or irregularities of the components.

Use another good/reliable cable and computer to check and verify the status of the SSD concern.

The main cause is unable to detect 'properly' and may not be any damaged yet to be confirmed.
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I suspect the SSD board somehow fried and died. Just RMA it ba...

I don't have good expectation with Adata SSD, stick to the usual Samsung or WD, Kingston or even scandisk ssd ba.
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Firstly, that is what you get for buying a DRAMless SSD. Find out more on how DRAMless SSDs impact your SSD performance + shortening the SSD life. And as a result, why you should avoid buying cheap SSDs that are DRAMless overall.

SSDs fail catastrophically in that there may be no signs to tell you that it might die. It just either works or it doesn't. Thus why it is advisable to back up to an external slow spinning HDD for personal data backup. I recommend going for trustworthy drives with low failure rates. I don't trust Western Digital ones as quite of few of those drives of mine either failed or is experiencing extremely slow speeds.

Go with the tried and true Samsung SSDs to avoid any headaches. Their Samsung Magician software will also tell you if one of your SSDs are about to become bad thanks to S.M.A.R.T.

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A DRAMless SSD will have a 90% chance of failing instantly if power is removed during read/write operation. That's the SSD by design.


The more expensive SSDs have the DRAM to flush writes to disk in the event of power loss. Hence it doesn't fail.


This is why I still stick to my Seagate HDDs for now.
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A DRAMless SSD will have a 90% chance of failing instantly if power is removed during read/write operation. That's the SSD by design.


The more expensive SSDs have the DRAM to flush writes to disk in the event of power loss. Hence it doesn't fail.


This is why I still stick to my Seagate HDDs for now.
if data cable plugged in but power cable not in, will it cause it to fail?
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if data cable plugged in but power cable not in, will it cause it to fail?

If you treated your SSD like a hot-pluggable thumbdrive, you would screw up the SSD. It's not fried in the sense that the circuit board cannot take any power. It can still take power but the chips onboard on the SSD are left in an inconsistent state not recognisable by the controller.


If you are getting a cheap SSD, the best way is to ensure your system is fully powered down (i.e. the PC sends a power off command to the SSD) before disconnecting the drive.


No devices I know are truly hot pluggable in that sense, because you can never ensure when the drive is being read or written to.


960GB is a painful loss bro. This is a rather expensive lesson unfortunately. Your fault happened at the point when you disconnected power to the SSD not knowing whether or not there were host reads/writes. That was sufficient in and of itself to irreversibly damage the drive. Thus, it would be irrelevant what cables you stuck into the drive after that.

A DRAM cache in the drive provides as a UPS source if power is removed, just enough to flush data to disk consistently within the acceptable tolerance range of the drive. You may still encounter file system errors but the drive's error correction system would compensate for that.

Today's traditional arm and spindle HDDs don't encounter as serious a problem. In the event of a power loss, the motor has enough potential energy to send the heads to the parked position, thus protecting the drive platters. This was a huge advancement from the HDDs in 1990s, when disks would frequently have "stuck/sticky" heads because the arm failed to fully retract during a power loss. In such cases, it was common to see subsequently that catastrophic head crash incidents arose.

Here's how fast the arm of a modern HDD moves today. Thanks to 40 years of development and advancement. Helium seal HDDs have even faster arms because of the sealed pressurised environment it is in:
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