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Old 19-04-2016, 11:39 AM   #31
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imho best value mini-pc atm.
USD$99 Only.
Any chance of getting one and doing a real life hands-on review to share here?

It looks like a good effort but can foresee a few issues rightaway as detailed by other users on this page
Kangaroo

Issues raised
- Win 10 only ( I want my Openelec for htpc leh, imo a deal breaker)
- Boot drive fixed to its internal 32GB MMC (good luck with Win 10 plus incessant updates)
- small handphone capacity battery
- QC issues with non-responsive units

Still for 99 USD, looks interesting enough.



Was considering Intel NUC for months but ended up with ITX instead...
Agree that the Intel NUC is a niche product too and as with all niche products, there is a premium attached to it unless/until it becomes a widespread commodity item.

I echo the same sentiments that the cost of it is ridiculous considering that one have to top up for RAM, SSD and OS to make it usable with its cheap U-processors.
For the OS cost aspect, got to get out and think outside of the (Windows) box. Don't get trapped there.

Linux and its variants can be installed FOC, have lower hardware requirements and can work even better than Win OS,

imo,
- nothing comes anywhere close to Openelec for a FOC htpc OS/front (Blurays excepted)
- Linux Mint is visually more attractive/prettier than Win 10 so unless you die die must have Win OS usage, do try it out since it is FOC too

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Old 19-04-2016, 11:48 AM   #32
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Any chance of getting one and doing a real life hands-on review to share here?

It looks like a good effort but can foresee a few issues rightaway as detailed by other users on this page
Kangaroo

Issues raised
- Win 10 only ( I want my Openelec for htpc leh, imo a deal breaker)
- Boot drive fixed to its internal 32GB MMC (good luck with Win 10 plus incessant updates)
- small handphone capacity battery
- QC issues with non-responsive units

Still for 99 USD, looks interesting enough.




Agree that the Intel NUC is a niche product too and as with all niche products, there is a premium attached to it unless/until it becomes a widespread commodity item.


For the OS cost aspect, got to get out and think outside of the (Windows) box. Don't get trapped there.

Linux and its variants can be installed FOC, have lower hardware requirements and can work even better than Win OS,

imo,
- nothing comes anywhere close to Openelec for a FOC htpc OS/front (Blurays excepted)
- Linux Mint is visually more attractive/prettier than Win 10 so unless you die die must have Win OS usage, do try it out since it is FOC too

well, i use alot of Linux at work. Never a big fan of it until now despite knowing how to use it, i still prefer to work on a Windows machine.

personal preference, hope I won't get flame.
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Old 19-04-2016, 12:08 PM   #33
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Any chance of getting one and doing a real life hands-on review to share here?

It looks like a good effort but can foresee a few issues rightaway as detailed by other users on this page
Kangaroo

Issues raised
- Win 10 only ( I want my Openelec for htpc leh, imo a deal breaker)
- Boot drive fixed to its internal 32GB MMC (good luck with Win 10 plus incessant updates)
- small handphone capacity battery
- QC issues with non-responsive units

Still for 99 USD, looks interesting enough.
Nope moi tan gu gu for new architecture Apollo Lake CPU version.

Internal 32GB MMC <---you can use USB3 external HDD for lack of space.
small handphone capacity battery <---this is an extra for on the go usage, it got an AC Adaptor port.

Agree that the Intel NUC is a niche product too and as with all niche products, there is a premium attached to it unless/until it becomes a widespread commodity item.
Agree with this.
Maybe when External GPU becomes more common and affordable then maybe bah.
Or high leaps in performance and price for Intel Atom/ARM.

For the OS cost aspect, got to get out and think outside of the (Windows) box. Don't get trapped there.

Linux and its variants can be installed FOC, have lower hardware requirements and can work even better than Win OS,

imo,
- nothing comes anywhere close to Openelec for a FOC htpc OS/front (Blurays excepted)
- Linux Mint is visually more attractive/prettier than Win 10 so unless you die die must have Win OS usage, do try it out since it is FOC too

Linux is not recommended for layman.
I use LinuxMint at home cos I don't want MS spying on my prawn farm. DIY troubleshooting and googling and trying various user suggested solution is not very fun.

When I install latest version of LinuxMint in Feb 2016, first thing I do i go update and install proprietary GPU drivers for AMD.

And then I cannot boot up cos driver incompatible.
End up i have to google for solution how to remove the driver.

I do not recommend layman to use Linux.
All the driver incompatibility moi had to DIY google for solution.
For experienced user like me, who use Linux Red Hat since over a decade ago and well verse in multiple programming languages ok lah, but for layman, highly not recommended.
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Old 19-04-2016, 12:52 PM   #34
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well, i use alot of Linux at work. Never a big fan of it until now despite knowing how to use it, i still prefer to work on a Windows machine.

personal preference, hope I won't get flame.
Heheh, looks like you put yourself back into the MS box then, my condolences.

For some, it's tough to justify paying a sum for all hardware combined and 50% of that for just the Win OS itself.

Worse is the tedium of re-validation each and everytime any targetted hardware is changed, even RAM. That' why I have yet to authenticate the Win 10 on this Braswell cos I haven't finalised the amt of RAM for the long run, Openelec seems good enough on the bundled 2GB but Win 10???

DIY troubleshooting and googling and trying various user suggested solution is not very fun...
Agree about the part running into trouble and fixing it but nothing ventured nothing gained mah.

btw, have you tried this yet?
TimeShift

Unlike Mint which is used mostly as a production OS (like Win OS), Openelec is more a consumption OS so all the above simply doesn't apply. It's definitely a must try for all htpc fans.




Anyway at this juncture, time to refocus on topic at hand cos starting to stray from NUC discussion to OS wars.

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Old 19-04-2016, 09:00 PM   #35
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Old 19-04-2016, 09:06 PM   #36
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Heheh, looks like you put yourself back into the MS box then, my condolences.
Don't be. Our mileage is different.
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Old 19-04-2016, 09:36 PM   #37
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Kangaroo got addon which allows 2.5" hdd
http://www.pcworld.com/article/30565...g-station.html

I guess shouldnt be too difficult to install linux, since it's just a normal intel processor

but speed wise, i prefer beebox as it can decode 4k
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Kangaroo got addon which allows 2.5" hdd
http://www.pcworld.com/article/30565...g-station.html

I guess shouldnt be too difficult to install linux, since it's just a normal intel processor

but speed wise, i prefer beebox as it can decode 4k

Got but USD$199.

Also everything will be bottleneck on USB3.
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Old 20-04-2016, 06:59 AM   #39
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Old 20-04-2016, 09:52 AM   #40
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FYI. Newer Intel i3, i5 and i7 NUC has problem.

https://communities.intel.com/thread...t=315&tstart=0
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Old 20-04-2016, 01:39 PM   #41
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Indeed, this Intel branded NUC QC issue was also pointed out earlier here
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Old 20-04-2016, 10:31 PM   #42
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Old 21-04-2016, 03:02 AM   #43
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This configure very good for user who need cloud server or host web site using WAMP server and FTP server as well.

Add-in Samsung Momentus 4TB SATA III 5400 RPM 2.5-inch Hard Drive - Free delivery from amazon into the devices and you can download torrent file and access your file from anywhere.
http://www.amazon.com/Samsung-Moment...nch+hard+drive



Install PLEX on your windows and you can stream all your video over air into your android or windows.
Stream everything
Now you can stream every single movie, TV show, home video, song and photo in your collection to any device, anywhere. Whether your files are scattered across computers and the cloud or perfectly catalogued in one place, Plex organizes it all and presents it beautifully on any screen. This means your phone, tablet, or PC, as well as your big screen through your PlayStation, Xbox, or favorite streaming device.
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There are lot of option you can make use of this product.
Im already doing that, but instead of using your own hdd, you can upload to google photos.

Using Gdrive add-on for Kodi, you can stream your collection on any device.

Just use the search function to search for the file name


and enjoy...


Can switch audio streams or subs halfway if the file you uploaded has multiple stream


Since google auto convert (into 360p, 480p, 720p, 1080p) for every video uploaded, you can stream on any device, or choose original unconverted format to stream
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