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Old 09-07-2010, 11:44 AM   #31
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interesting topic...so shld or shld not get one?....
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Old 09-07-2010, 11:55 AM   #32
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Can choose not to use surge protector multi socket strip.

But you'll be asking for trouble if plug every thing in one socket

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Old 09-07-2010, 12:03 PM   #33
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juz getting those 6 socket strip shld be fine unless surge protection is required...as long as dun overload the point on each socket...
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Old 09-07-2010, 12:06 PM   #34
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Can choose not to use surge protector multi socket strip.

But you'll be asking for trouble if plug every thing in one socket

I wonder about this urban myth also... since the cause of fire is due to overheating from excessive current and high resistance at connectors, the plug of the power strip connecting to the wall socket should be the most susceptible to bursting into flames compared to the 3-way adapters further down which can only plug a maximum of, urm, 3 plugs.

Yet seldom see photos of that plug of the power strip in flames, only pictures of loose connections and broken wires and photoshopped flames that can create so much soot from burning plastic.

Anyway, no matter what power strip you use, maximum is still 13A for everything connected to that single plug at the wall.
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Old 09-07-2010, 01:22 PM   #35
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I thought leaving it on for a longer time when I'm out increase the probability of getting surge. And when there are thunderstorms, I'm not at home to switch it off.

Don't make sense. You mean if you switch on your PC when you are at home, you don't need a surge protector? If you really want to leave your PC on when you are out, then a UPS makes more sense. Preferably one that can auto shut down your PC if the UPS runs out of power should the source tripped. Surge protector cannot do that.

I using the APC BR800I, can specify how many minutes before total power loss to shut down the PC when I'm not at home. My house tripped a few times every year (esp during thunderstorms) and I run my PC near 24/7 so UPS is important. Their support so far seems pretty good. The UPS behaving funny recently. Made a report to APC support and they actually call me back to chase for an update on the status after giving their advice the first time.

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Old 09-07-2010, 02:15 PM   #36
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Have your fridge/TV/lights/handphone charger been destroyed in thunderstorms before?
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Old 09-07-2010, 02:55 PM   #37
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btw how many in singapore do buy surge protectors, very few i believe.

almost 100% of household in singapore uses multi plug extension etc.

rates of fire due to electrical appliances negligible.

My self i do not use any multiplug or extension at home. in my room alone i got 14 power points. one electrical device to one power point.
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Old 09-07-2010, 04:41 PM   #38
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btw how many in singapore do buy surge protectors, very few i believe.

almost 100% of household in singapore uses multi plug extension etc.

rates of fire due to electrical appliances negligible.

My self i do not use any multiplug or extension at home. in my room alone i got 14 power points. one electrical device to one power point.
well, if you have spare cash and want to have a safe mind, go ahead and buy
else, don't bother.
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Old 09-07-2010, 07:51 PM   #39
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Carrerfour suntec selling at this price




last i saw less than 5 sets left
i think someone is gonna kill me


just over PC show prices
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Old 09-07-2010, 08:53 PM   #40
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just over PC show prices
PC price was 59
The carrfour he show underneath is 48.7.
If i not wrong.
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Old 10-07-2010, 07:01 AM   #41
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well, if you have spare cash and want to have a safe mind, ...
If a power strip does not have protector parts, then it is safe. But if its tiny (hundreds of joules) tries to stop a surge (hundreds of thousands of joules), sometimes this happens - scary pictures:
http://www.hanford.gov/rl/?page=556&parent=554
http://www.ddxg.net/old/surge_protectors.htm
http://www.zerosurge.com/HTML/movs.html
http://tinyurl.com/3x73ol entitled "Surge Protector Fires"
http://www3.cw56.com/news/articles/local/BO63312/
http://www.nmsu.edu/~safety/news/les...tectorfire.htm
http://www.pennsburgfireco.com/fullstory.php?58339

Protection is always about where energy dissipates. If energy dissipates harmlessly outside a building, then no fear. If hundreds of thousands of joules dissipates inside that power strip, then be very concerned - have little peace of mind.

Norma on 27 Dec 2008 in "The Power Outage" describes what happens when a power strip (optimized for profits) contains 2 cm protector parts:
> Today, the cable company came to replace a wire. Well the cable man pulled
> a wire and somehow yanked loose their "ground" wire. The granddaughter on
> the computer yelled and ran because sparks and smoke were coming from the
> power surge strip.

Singapore had a protector unique to what exists elsewhere. When a lightning bolt is being constructed, it radiates a unique RF signature. This gives a box in the basement a long time to disconnect the phone line and connect that incoming wire short to protection - earth ground. This circuit change exists for hundreds of milliseconds. Long enough for a surge to be harmlessly connected to earth. And short enough to not interrupt a telephone conversation.

Three more reasons demonstrate why effective protectors are earthed and why plug-in protectors should concern an informed homeowner.
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Old 10-07-2010, 08:35 AM   #42
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If a power strip does not have protector parts, then it is safe. But if its tiny (hundreds of joules) tries to stop a surge (hundreds of thousands of joules), sometimes this happens - scary pictures:
http://www.hanford.gov/rl/?page=556&parent=554
http://www.ddxg.net/old/surge_protectors.htm
http://www.zerosurge.com/HTML/movs.html
http://tinyurl.com/3x73ol entitled "Surge Protector Fires"
http://www3.cw56.com/news/articles/local/BO63312/
http://www.nmsu.edu/~safety/news/les...tectorfire.htm
http://www.pennsburgfireco.com/fullstory.php?58339

Protection is always about where energy dissipates. If energy dissipates harmlessly outside a building, then no fear. If hundreds of thousands of joules dissipates inside that power strip, then be very concerned - have little peace of mind.

Norma on 27 Dec 2008 in "The Power Outage" describes what happens when a power strip (optimized for profits) contains 2 cm protector parts:
> Today, the cable company came to replace a wire. Well the cable man pulled
> a wire and somehow yanked loose their "ground" wire. The granddaughter on
> the computer yelled and ran because sparks and smoke were coming from the
> power surge strip.

Singapore had a protector unique to what exists elsewhere. When a lightning bolt is being constructed, it radiates a unique RF signature. This gives a box in the basement a long time to disconnect the phone line and connect that incoming wire short to protection - earth ground. This circuit change exists for hundreds of milliseconds. Long enough for a surge to be harmlessly connected to earth. And short enough to not interrupt a telephone conversation.

Three more reasons demonstrate why effective protectors are earthed and why plug-in protectors should concern an informed homeowner.
Nice information and fiery pictures!
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Old 10-07-2010, 08:49 AM   #43
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I have been using the 2 Belkin 8 way Surge protectors multi socket for over 2 years and I am well pleased
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Old 10-07-2010, 11:20 AM   #44
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does SG has this Conserve Switch™ Surge Protector with Remote?



but with SG kind of plug-ins...
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Old 10-07-2010, 12:00 PM   #45
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does SG has this Conserve Switch™ Surge Protector with Remote?



but with SG kind of plug-ins...
uhh go to the website and check whether a model exists for local sockets ?
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