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Old 27-02-2017, 01:17 PM   #4501
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quick questions: for those who DIY on the home cam installation, where can we buy the extension?
i reckon challenger, court or sim lim will have it?
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Old 27-02-2017, 01:24 PM   #4502
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Either is a PT528, PT603 or PT713.
Bought the Sineoji PT528V , value for money. Fit my budget. So far the camera is fast, viewing using my data plan is as fast as viewing on WiFi at home. Real time .

Still contemplating whether to get a NAS or using 128 micro SD to store the recorded videos.
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Old 27-02-2017, 05:04 PM   #4503
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quick questions: for those who DIY on the home cam installation, where can we buy the extension?
i reckon challenger, court or sim lim will have it?
aliexpress, taobao

sim lim tower should have.
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Old 27-02-2017, 05:04 PM   #4504
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Bought the Sineoji PT528V , value for money. Fit my budget. So far the camera is fast, viewing using my data plan is as fast as viewing on WiFi at home. Real time .

Still contemplating whether to get a NAS or using 128 micro SD to store the recorded videos.
i would go SD-card its cheaper.
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Old 28-02-2017, 05:05 PM   #4505
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quick questions: for those who DIY on the home cam installation, where can we buy the extension?
i reckon challenger, court or sim lim will have it?
What do you mean by extension? As in 5V DC Power, 2.1A? If yes, then, http://www.qoo10.sg/gmkt.inc/Goods/G...code=412687377
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Old 28-02-2017, 05:08 PM   #4506
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Setting up was painful because I did not have a stable internet connection (mobile hotspot). But I think that the setting up would be easy with a good connection.
why dont you use a wifi extender so that the cam can have a stronger wifi signals.
I would not recommend this for wifi based IP Cams. I have read it can bring much grief.

Wifi alone for streaming video is quite subjected to ups and downs. Wifi with a repeater/extender in between would be even more challenging, IMHO IMHO.

Also, after 5 DLink painful setup "experiences", I recommend WPS as the most painless way to get the initial IP Address assigned.

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Old 28-02-2017, 05:22 PM   #4507
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Newbie looking for IP cameras for home use. Nothing fancy, just basic surveillance for peace of mind to watch the kids and the maid when we're not at home.

I see Sineoji seems to be very popular here? How do they compare against the likes of Samsung and D-Link?

Which model has good sound clarity when using the 2-way audio?
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Old 28-02-2017, 05:27 PM   #4508
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Still contemplating whether to get a NAS or using 128 micro SD to store the recorded videos.
I would say it depends on how many cameras you have and how often you access. My decision chain was as follows;

1. MicroSD
I was of the opinion that it would be slow, and tiring, if I were to review footage every day via the phone apps. On top of that, stepping on ladders to pull out the card to plug into a PC would at best continue for about 3 days straight, then I would get too bloody lazy.
It would defn be the cheapest options though.

2. Standalone NAS - QNAP, Synology
Normally came with licenses for 2 cameras. And for me, I have 5 cameras now, planning to go to 7. I was not keen on paying SGD65 or more for just licenses. As much as I wanted to have a new toy, a backup storage for family photos etc etc etc, I just could not bring myself to pay for it. I also didn't like the amount I had to pay for a "non competitive cpu." Not to mention, some folks were reporting problems with transferring the licenses when upgrading the NAS units.

3. Standalone Security PC
I went this way, and used BlueIris Software. Software licensing cost of SGD 100 per year, up to 32 or 36 cams, I think. It was the cheapest if you plan to put heck loads of cameras.
For those interested, there is a free demo you can download. That's how I started.

In your case, and if you have 1/2 cameras, you could just very start with SD cards and work your way up... its has been a very interesting experience for me, to say the least.

Hope this helps. Ask if you have questions.

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Old 28-02-2017, 05:36 PM   #4509
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Newbie looking for IP cameras for home use. Nothing fancy, just basic surveillance for peace of mind to watch the kids and the maid when we're not at home.
Hi, if I may give some opinions.

First question to think about is, do you want a solution or are you interested in DIY?
If its a solution, there are many guys who have had very positive experiences and can recommend you in the right direction. I went DIY, simply because I am a cheapo nerd I guess, and just wanted to experience it for myself. I started with 1, and now am at 5 cameras.

Secondly. How many cameras?
Obviously if its going to be one or two camera in the baby room, then perhaps DIY would work. If its a mammoth 10 cam set up, then perhaps you should pay for someone to do it.

Thirdly, wifi or lan cable?
If I could turn back time, to 4+ years ago when I was renovating my house, I would have gladly paid the extra SDG 1k or so to pull bloody CAT 6 cables to all the rooms in my house.

Using wifi for CONTINUOUS monitoring can be tiresome. As compared to a LAN cable that is almost 99% available, 100% of the time. For PERIODIC checking and monitoring, wifi is pretty OK.


Which model has good sound clarity when using the 2-way audio?
I only used Dlink So far. Of which, I have used the DCS 5222L and the DCS 2630L. Try here for starters, http://forums.hardwarezone.com.sg/ha...#post104374588

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Old 28-02-2017, 05:59 PM   #4510
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They got Cs here ma.. Lol.

I use wanscam hw0046 1080p. So far so good.. But is DIY.

Newbie looking for IP cameras for home use. Nothing fancy, just basic surveillance for peace of mind to watch the kids and the maid when we're not at home.

I see Sineoji seems to be very popular here? How do they compare against the likes of Samsung and D-Link?

Which model has good sound clarity when using the 2-way audio?
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Old 28-02-2017, 08:28 PM   #4511
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Hi, if I may give some opinions.

First question to think about is, do you want a solution or are you interested in DIY?
If its a solution, there are many guys who have had very positive experiences and can recommend you in the right direction. I went DIY, simply because I am a cheapo nerd I guess, and just wanted to experience it for myself. I started with 1, and now am at 5 cameras.

Secondly. How many cameras?
Obviously if its going to be one or two camera in the baby room, then perhaps DIY would work. If its a mammoth 10 cam set up, then perhaps you should pay for someone to do it.

Thirdly, wifi or lan cable?
If I could turn back time, to 4+ years ago when I was renovating my house, I would have gladly paid the extra SDG 1k or so to pull bloody CAT 6 cables to all the rooms in my house.

Using wifi for CONTINUOUS monitoring can be tiresome. As compared to a LAN cable that is almost 99% available, 100% of the time. For PERIODIC checking and monitoring, wifi is pretty OK.



I only used Dlink So far. Of which, I have used the DCS 5222L and the DCS 2630L. Try here for starters, http://forums.hardwarezone.com.sg/ha...#post104374588
Thanks for the reply! My requirements are very simple actually. I just need one, or two at the most, cameras to cover the living, dining and kitchen areas.

I have CAT 6 cabling installed, but unfortunately not at the places where I need to place the cameras , so I guess I'll have to go with wifi.

When you say DIY, what do you mean exactly? Mounting and installing? Setting up and configuration? I am familiar with configuring virtual server, port forwarding, DDNS, etc so I think I can manage the setting up. If I run into trouble, I guess I can always ask for help here

For mounting, if I want to mount the cameras on the wall/ceiling, will 3M tape be good enough? Or will I need to drill holes?
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Old 28-02-2017, 10:35 PM   #4512
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I wished I knew enough to tell you what to do. I dont.

That said, I can share with you what I considered as important, and maybe you can go from there.

so I guess I'll have to go with wifi.
Wifi is fine. One point I would like to make is Continuous VS Upon Access.
This is my terminology, so pls bear with me.
Continuous feeds is when for example the feed from the camera is being recorded constantly. I.E. the camera is sending a video feed to a recording device.
Upon Access feeds is for example is when you use an app to view the live video from office for 10 mins, or examine the recordings on the SD card.

For me, I was clear I wanted to be in wifi-AC cameras. So all the cameras I considered had to offer wifi AC only. This was because I knew eventually I wanted to have continuous recording. Also, as you already know the wifi g/n frequencies are cluttered beyond belief. Also when combined with resolution and FPS settings, the issue is compounded.

When you say DIY, what do you mean exactly? Mounting and installing?
DIY = Do It Yourself or in Cantonese: "Ji Kei Lei" or in Malay: "Sendiri Bikin"

familiar with configuring virtual server, port forwarding, DDNS,
You would probably teach me when your done. I didnt even know the difference between a public and private IP Add when I started.

will 3M tape be good enough? Or will I need to drill holes?
I would say it depends on what cameras you pick and where you place them.
For example, the Dlink DCS 93xL series are all pretty light. I have used double sided tape on my DCS 935L to a wall before and it survived a few months before I went to drilling holes. My daughter found out she could yank it off the wall and made it a habit to do so every time she saw it up again.

Or if you go for the PTZ types, (for example DCS 5222L/Sineoji range) you can place them on a shelf or table. So there is no real need to mount, other than to ensure it does not fall off what ever it is sitting on.
A small note, from me on this is, because my toddler tends to walk close to walls, there was a high tendency for her to stand close to under my PTZ camera, mounted on a shelf. When she did, I could not see her, because she was under the shelf. So In this scenario, I had to change mounting to under the shelf (drilled holes), so that I could move the cam to see her.

So I guess in summary, placement location varies alot after you get the cam itself. Of course you will be limited to where your AC outlet is, or the vicinity of it. But the final placement, the more options for mounting is better. Hence tape or drilled holes... whichever. So dont rule it out completely, unless your willing to compromise.

Image REsolution
I was sure I did not want anything less than 720P, or badly labeled as "HD" in this industry. Some pple say that 640p is sufficient for home use. But for me, I was sure. If I could I would make 1080P as my minimum requirement, but cost became a factor.

Frames Per Second
Being a juvenile on this, I was so sure, 30FPS or nothing.
Over time, and at home, I run my recordings are 15 FPS over wifi. My wired cams are doing 20FPS. The tradeoff of course would be more images per second, but at the cost of recording space.
My bottom line is that I wanted to be sure, I could see for example, "my maid hitting my child", or "pinching my child" for example.
Alot of pple will tell you, 10FPS for home use is sufficient. It is. Just where you decide to draw the line. A quote I read a lot is for example 30fps is in casinos, where you need to see players cheating, whose hands are very quick, apparently.

Field of View (H x V x D)
Also pay attention to this when you select the cams. Especially if the cams are NON PTZ. Essentially it is how much you see in the image. The larger the values, the more you see.
Bear in mind, having a PTZ type of camera does not really solve the problem. Its a solution to a short coming.

Hope this helps, sorry for rambling.
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Old 28-02-2017, 10:53 PM   #4513
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Anyone has experience with Foscam? One fine day, I tap on my iphone up cam viewer app, it just say 'camera/ feed not available'. However, no setting or any changes done to camera or wifi. I tried to on and off the camera, reset the link on my phone etc etc but didn't work.
Anyone has any idea or encounter this problem before?
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Old 01-03-2017, 12:40 AM   #4514
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Anyone has experience with Foscam? One fine day, I tap on my iphone up cam viewer app, it just say 'camera/ feed not available'. However, no setting or any changes done to camera or wifi. I tried to on and off the camera, reset the link on my phone etc etc but didn't work.
Anyone has any idea or encounter this problem before?
did u setup ddns? and port forwarding

if not u won't be able to view outside ur wifi network.

what model?
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Old 01-03-2017, 02:33 PM   #4515
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Sineoji PT713V Full HD video quality with 170° wide viewing angle in a coffee shop.

which coffee shop is this ? the viewing angle is awesome. The camera is placed at the right spot I guess for an optimise view.
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