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Old 08-11-2016, 09:56 PM   #16
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LG V20 is competent enough to be better than most DAPs except the top tier. I am pretty sure it sounds more powerful and clearer than Onkyo dp-x1 in single ended and also the ES9218 quad dac is superior to the older ES9018K2M.

Sony NW-ZX2 is better than LG V20. But not by a big margin.
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interesting, I was THIS close to getting a new DAP, now maybe I should look at this LG V20 and dedicate one for listening to music and surfing the net.

are you reading specs or did you managed to try one already? I just checked locally (online), seems to be out of stock everywhere, so popular?

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Means the LG V20 better than Onkyo Dp-x1?

LG V20 is competent enough to be better than most DAPs except the top tier. I am pretty sure it sounds more powerful and clearer than Onkyo dp-x1 in single ended and also the ES9218 quad dac is superior to the older ES9018K2M.

Sony NW-ZX2 is better than LG V20. But not by a big margin.
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Old 11-11-2016, 01:36 AM   #19
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I bought the V20. It was the last piece in Singapore on that day when I got it. Yes in my opinion, it is better than DP-X1. Less grainy for sure and much more dynamic sounding. ES9018K2M(DX90,DP-X1) based daps all have digital grain(Think of a weak bad FM radio signal buried behind your music) if you listen closely. ES9028(V20) has much improved sound that still has tiny bit of digital grain but really hard to notice at all.

Sony ZX2 amp is weaker but has more refinement in it's treble reproduction that is totally free from digital grain.

Your headphone/iem choice with LG V20 is going very crucial because V20 sound signature is extremely aggressive(dynamic + high detail/sharp/crisp sounding). Try to find mellower or laidback sounding as much as possible(i.e. K10U or TFZ Series 3/5 or HD6x0). i.e. avoid CFA andromeda or HD800 as it will definitively sound very sharply sibilant and fatiguing.

V20 actually sounds really good with spotify, better than ZX2 due to V20 more aggressive sound. Spotfiy music OGG format has very compressed dynamics somewhat like FM radio but better.

But for Hi Res/Well recorded music, ZX2 is still king as it sound really very close to high end R2R desktop dac.

Also LG V20 with USB OTG cable + UAPP makes for a really great sounding digital music transport to pair up to your desktop usb dac.
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If I'm using Bluetooth DNC headphones , does it matter if it has 2 DAC or amp?
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If I'm using Bluetooth DNC headphones , does it matter if it has 2 DAC or amp?
Does not matter. Unless you are using Sony Bluetooth headphones with LDAC
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