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Old 19-05-2009, 01:31 PM   #736
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No, ICA did not say anything. Don't assume I've brought in a lot of knives. Thanks.

Knives are classified as "offensive weapons". If you bring in a teeny weeny folder it should be ok (unless it is assisted or can flick open) but larger knives (esp. more than 6") are subject to scrutiny.

I'll be happy to discuss in PM with you. Sensitive info ah. Wait mata say I encouraging people/disclosing procedures to bring in knives...

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Old 19-05-2009, 05:18 PM   #737
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No, ICA did not say anything. Don't assume I've brought in a lot of knives. Thanks.

Knives are classified as "offensive weapons". If you bring in a teeny weeny folder it should be ok (unless it is assisted or can flick open) but larger knives (esp. more than 6") are subject to scrutiny.

I'll be happy to discuss in PM with you. Sensitive info ah. Wait mata say I encouraging people/disclosing procedures to bring in knives...
I think you are confused... Even a teeny weeny folder can be considered an offensive weapon. By definition an "offensive weapon" includes any instrument which if used as a weapon of offence is likely to cause hurt. Which actually includes a lot of things from bottles, to chairs and those old motorola water bottle handphones. The offensive weapons act do however mention that it is only considered to be an offensive weapon if it is carried in public or gazetted area for unlawful purposes.

Are you thinking of scheduled weapons? Because at least there is a mention of knives in that section. Scheduled weapons...


1. Any knife, sometimes known as a flick knife, which has a blade which opens automatically by hand pressure applied to a button, spring or other device in or attached to the handle of the knife.

2. Any knife, sometimes known as a gravity knife, which has a blade which is released from the handle or sheath thereof by the force of gravity or the application of centrifugal force and which, when released, is locked in place by means of a button, spring, lever or other device.

3. Any whip manufactured from bicycle or motor cycle chains or from any similar kind of chainwork. (very polular in the 60s and 70s from what I've heard).

4. All kinds of knuckledusters.

5. Any blade or other instrument attached to or forming part of a bicycle pump, metal-pipe or stick, and concealed therein, which is capable of being used for cutting or stabbing.

6. Any sword, machete or parang, axe, sickle, bearing scraper, spear, bayonet, iron rod, and the nancha-ku (segments of wood or metal joined by a chain, leather strap or cord).

Part 1 and 2 covers the auto, balis, and the assisted knives. Assisted folders are considered autos in Singapore unlike in US. The US laws consider a knife an auto only if it is deployed by a button or trigger mechanism on the handle.

Part 6 is where we get into the grey area. How big does a knife has to be before it is considered a sword/machete/parang? There are no mention anywhere in any acts or statutes. There are also no mention of the 6inch rule that is often quoted as it is an ICA and SPF standing order, not a law.

I don't think there's anything wrong with collecting knives and the subject of bringing in knives is definitely not a sensitive topic. Anyone who meets the background checks and record keeping requirements can import in knives and set up another Sheares Technology. All they need is to apply through TDB and AED for the necessary permits. For individuals there are no restrictions at all as long as the knives meets the above mentioned criterias. I and I believe many others have emailed AED and they have always maintained that it is ok to bring in knives for our own lawful use or as collectibles as long as it is not for retail. The standing order at ICA is to refer any blades to SPF for clearance. Anything less you'll only need to sign a police advice on lawful use of knives and responsibility of keeping it. After signing its off you go to enjoy your blade. Being polite helps when collecting knives from ICA. If you don't go there to collect within a week or so it will be disposed by them.

If it is referred to Cantonment then you'd collect it only if the duty officer is satisfied with your explaination. Then its sign the advice and go home with the blade. If he isn't satisfied or feel it falls under the scheduled weapons category it may be disposed or rendered safe. If you're caught bringing in an auto... Good luck to you.

The procedures are not spelled out anywhere but a few emails and phonecalls will usually settle that...

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Old 21-05-2009, 09:36 PM   #738
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http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/sh...d.php?t=646909

boker Trance Drop Point just got discontinued. congrats to those who bought before chop off.
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Old 21-05-2009, 11:15 PM   #739
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http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/sh...d.php?t=646909

boker Trance Drop Point just got discontinued. congrats to those who bought before chop off.
Actually talk of it maybe being discontinued came out 2months ago and Chad did mention it on Spyderco forums. Quite sad really. Told you its a good buy and prob. still available in quite a few places. For those who don't know the OP for that thread is Chad Los Banos the designer of the Subcom, Trance and M-type that Boker made. He also designed the Spyderco Lava which coincidentally got discontinued this year. Double blow for him but he still has a day job and still do some part time knife making if I'm not wrong. His Kerambit (also known as Chadrambit) design just hit the stores 3months ago. Very sweet looking knife but its been taken off the shelf because of a design flaw (not his fault, Boker used cheap materials). If you can find one grab it. Its a cheap buy that'll prob go up in value because it didn't even lat 6months on the market. He also goes by the same handle of Daywalker on Spyderco forums.

Including our order I've 2 more knives coming in next week, else I'd buy more but those 2 have hit my pockets real hard. Maybe next month if you want to do another joint buy together.

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Old 24-05-2009, 11:16 PM   #740
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Asked them before. Quite ridiculous. The guy didn't want to show me the catalog (which had prices). He took out calculator, punch punch punch - ta da! Selling at more than MSRP! (FYI you can buy SOGs at half the MSRP online.)

Thanks but I'll stick to the net.
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Old 24-05-2009, 11:36 PM   #741
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Asked them before. Quite ridiculous. The guy didn't want to show me the catalog (which had prices). He took out calculator, punch punch punch - ta da! Selling at more than MSRP! (FYI you can buy SOGs at half the MSRP online.)

Thanks but I'll stick to the net.
Wow... thanks for that info. I've always wanted to visit their shop but a bit too far for me... Especially since they're the only real knife dealer in Singapore. Guess I'm not missing anything much.
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Old 25-05-2009, 06:50 PM   #742
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Asked them before. Quite ridiculous. The guy didn't want to show me the catalog (which had prices). He took out calculator, punch punch punch - ta da! Selling at more than MSRP! (FYI you can buy SOGs at half the MSRP online.)

Thanks but I'll stick to the net.
hi where is sngarms located now?
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Old 25-05-2009, 07:07 PM   #743
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hi where is sngarms located now?
Army market... There a small store also selling knives there but few choices.
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Old 25-05-2009, 07:13 PM   #744
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Guys, let me share my recent (last week) experience in collecting my knife from Singpost & A&SE. I ordered my ka-bar #1213 Kraton G handle with SGF sheath from an online seller and he shipped it out using USPS. The parcel arrived from NYC to spore and was detained by Singpost pending GST checks, Singpost wrote to me and asked me down to show invoice for the purchase.

I went down and show them the invoice and the singpost guy told me to open it up for inspection, he saw the ka-bar and said he was a "dagger" and wrote it down in a form and told me that it will be send to A&E for further inspection.

The following day, i went to A&E at cantonment and when I opened the parcel and show them, they asked me why did I declare it as a dagger. I told him it was his competent counterpart in ICA that wrote that down. He didnt even told a second look and told me ok and signed a book to take the knife back. Wasted one day leave.

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Old 25-05-2009, 07:30 PM   #745
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Guys, let me share my recent (last week) experience in collecting my knife from Singpost & A&SE. I ordered my ka-bar #1213 Kraton G handle with SGF sheath from an online seller and he shipped it out using USPS. The parcel arrived from NYC to spore and was detained by Singpost pending GST checks, Singpost wrote to me and asked me down to show invoice for the purchase.

I went down and show them the invoice and the singpost guy told me to open it up for inspection, he saw the ka-bar and said he was a "dagger" and wrote it down in a form and told me that it will be send to A&E for further inspection.

The following day, i went to A&E at cantonment and when I opened the parcel and show them, they asked me why did I declare it as a dagger. I told him it was his competent counterpart in ICA that wrote that down. He didnt even told a second look and told me ok and signed a book to take the knife back. Wasted one day leave.

Is the upper clip of that knife sharpened? Cos if it is they may consider it a dagger which is pretty ridiculous as only a small portion of that blade is sharpened unlike daggers and stilettos. Did you note down the ICA guy's name? Usually this old timer that looks Indian/ Eurasian serve me at the counter. Very nice and polite, his friend a Chinese officer (old timer too, prob. in the 40s) was also pretty nice. There was once this young Malay chap (CPL I think) gave me some trouble keep insisting my knife is above the 6inch "legal" limit but his senior waved him off.

Sorry to hear your experience man...

FWIW... I was expecting 2 knives today... Only one has arrived. Hope I don't need to make a trip to Paya Lebar this Saturday cos it's bloody far from my place. Hopefully it appears in my letter box tomorrow.
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Old 25-05-2009, 07:40 PM   #746
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The upper clip's not sharpened , ICA chaps there are clueless abt knife, so if your parcel kena lucky drawn by them, good luck. 2 years ago, my 3 inche blade CRKT folder also kena 'detained' by ICA ans sent to A&E. Never got the ICA guy name. Just bad luck lah, think they just follow SOP, sent to A&E and let the cops decide.

Anyway a few chaps were at A&E collecting swords and bigger knives than mine that day.

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Old 25-05-2009, 08:23 PM   #747
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hey guys. what type of oil to u use to maintain the knife?
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Old 25-05-2009, 08:26 PM   #748
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The upper clip's not sharpened , ICA chaps there are clueless abt knife, so if your parcel kena lucky drawn by them, good luck. 2 years ago, my 3 inche blade CRKT folder also kena 'detained' by ICA ans sent to A&E. Never got the ICA guy name. Just bad luck lah, think they just follow SOP, sent to A&E and let the cops decide.

Anyway a few chaps were at A&E collecting swords and bigger knives than mine that day.
Jaga backside mah... Can taichi they will push the responsibility to others.
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Old 25-05-2009, 08:27 PM   #749
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Let's see if my latest order - SOG trident tiger stripe folder will end up there or not...

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Old 25-05-2009, 11:08 PM   #750
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Haven't taken any pics of my new knife yet but here's one I recently rediscovered a few days ago. It was gifted to me when I was in secondary school by my DnT class teacher. Always wondered where it was and I finally found it while packing my stuff before our big house moving day.

When I found it it was totally black with oxidation. Not surprising since it has been in the storeroom for the better part of 18years. I'm surprised it hasn't totally rusted away. 15mins later this is as much as I could clean up. Sharpened it on a 2 dollar double sided sharpening stone (from Daiso) under a running tap. Then on 1500grit silicon carbide paper I glued on a piece of glass, finished by stropping on Autosol over an old leather belt. Not pretty... But cuts paper like hot knife cuts through butter and I got the edge to a mirror polish... That and now the back of my left hand is totally devoid of hair as I kept checking if I have gotten it sharp enough. Managed to find some info online about the company that produced these... Marples, based in Sheffield, England. Now I have a new box cutter for moving day.

Not expensive nor pretty but it does bring back fond memories of my school days.





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