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Old 24-08-2015, 02:10 PM   #8041
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Pfft... You obviously missed your chance to buy this. Best money I've ever spent on any knife, kappa.
The price is quite reasonable actually but I don't think it can be stropped
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Old 24-08-2015, 02:22 PM   #8042
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Ask u guys hor.

Thinking of getting a knife with around $50 budget. Looking at black tactical and urbantoolhaus for their most-likely china knives, and also thinking of importing from knifecenter...also most likely China knives around that budget. Which one u guys think its better? Import vs Local scene. Cuz apparently they sell different models, so hard to compare leh

I'll put this upfront and apologize first, but please don't tell me to invest in a good quality $200+ knife. Firstly, not for field purposes, just for general duty, most likely just see see look look. Secondly, my first few knives, wanna know how to take care of it before considering breaking the bank
If it's China- china brands like Sanrenmu, enlan or ganzo-- just go and find in Aliexpress.. For between USD10-20 inclu. free shipping. Can't really go wrong. Yea many people will raise a brow when Aliexpress is mentioned. But objectively Chinese website to buy a China knife-- it's really cheaper than most. Just don't expect a lot out of their usual steels or even their construction on some models.. but for daily beater or use to learn how to sharpen knives, mod some handle scale etc... its fair deal. But seriously as some have suggested, start out with a better knife if it's meant to be carried and use. If $200+ is still steep.. go with $100+
I'm not a fan of some of those local online sites or physical shops mentioned. Edgepedition is better imo...
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Old 24-08-2015, 06:06 PM   #8043
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+1 for the Endura. Would have got it if I had known if before getting my first folder ; the OKC RATII.
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Old 24-08-2015, 07:42 PM   #8044
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+1 for the Endura. Would have got it if I had known if before getting my first folder ; the OKC RATII.
Used mine extensively for camping/travelling/cooking. VG10, ZDP and the H1 Salt version. Great knife for the money. Sal/Spyderco designed and manufactured both the Delica and Endura as the knife to introduce Spyderco to everyone...the price is made especially attractive.

The VG10 FFG G10 version is especially yummy.
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Old 25-08-2015, 07:40 PM   #8045
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Used mine extensively for camping/travelling/cooking. VG10, ZDP and the H1 Salt version. Great knife for the money. Sal/Spyderco designed and manufactured both the Delica and Endura as the knife to introduce Spyderco to everyone...the price is made especially attractive.

The VG10 FFG G10 version is especially yummy.
There is a G10 handle variant?

I might get the Endura with wave opener to replace the RATII.
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Old 25-08-2015, 07:58 PM   #8046
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Whats a good knife for atec reservist
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Old 25-08-2015, 08:52 PM   #8047
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If it's China- china brands like Sanrenmu, enlan or ganzo-- just go and find in Aliexpress.. For between USD10-20 inclu. free shipping. Can't really go wrong. Yea many people will raise a brow when Aliexpress is mentioned. But objectively Chinese website to buy a China knife-- it's really cheaper than most. Just don't expect a lot out of their usual steels or even their construction on some models.. but for daily beater or use to learn how to sharpen knives, mod some handle scale etc... its fair deal. But seriously as some have suggested, start out with a better knife if it's meant to be carried and use. If $200+ is still steep.. go with $100+
I'm not a fan of some of those local online sites or physical shops mentioned. Edgepedition is better imo...
If going for Sanrenmu knives, I strongly suggest taking a look at their new non-locking knives in the 7000 series. They are generally identifiable by their MUC, MUX, SUC and SUX codes immediately after the model number. These knives, despite being non-locking, do not use slipjoints, but a double ball detent system.

Tiny holes in the blade catch onto the ball bearings situated on two pieces of spring steel in the liners at both the open and close positions, with the holes in the open position being deeper than those in the closed position. This means that the knives are almost impossible to be opened and closed one-handed, which translates to greater safety. I own a couple of those non-lockers and the detent is so tight in the open position that it requires a fair bit of strength (think two hands worth of strength) to dislodge the blade from the detents so accidental closure is practically impossible. Of course, with the amount of force involved in closing these non-locking models, please keep your fingers away from the blade when attempting to close them unless losing one of them happens to be your thing.

Since all of Sanrenmu's 7XXX series fall below 3" in blade length, combined with the new series of non-locking models they can be the closest to what can be called world-legal knives. Also, Sanrenmu is known to be phasing out most of their locking models in favour of smaller, non-locking ones to comply with Chinese domestic law, which is a good move for those living under tight regulations. And by the way, almost all of the non-locking models in the 7000 series are multitools; they come with two added attachments, a sloted screwdriver + bottle opener attachment and a Philips screwdriver + beltcutter attachments, both slipjoints.
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Old 26-08-2015, 06:47 AM   #8048
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There is a G10 handle variant?

I might get the Endura with wave opener to replace the RATII.
several years ago, they did a short run. The G10 was a nice foliage green. You'll have to look for the in the secondary market - they are around USD100 if you can find them.
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Old 26-08-2015, 05:02 PM   #8049
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several years ago, they did a short run. The G10 was a nice foliage green. You'll have to look for the in the secondary market - they are around USD100 if you can find them.
It might be difficult to get the G10 sprint runs on the (after)market though.

If you end up really liking the Delica so much, there are aftermarket scales for it. Allen Putman is a pretty famous and reputable guy for this.
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Old 26-08-2015, 05:11 PM   #8050
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It might be difficult to get the G10 sprint runs on the (after)market though.

If you end up really liking the Delica so much, there are aftermarket scales for it. Allen Putman is a pretty famous and reputable guy for this.
I think Vespaguy referred to Endura.

Looks like there are aftermarket G10 scales for Endura. Thanks Shikiwaru, for your BladeHQ link.
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Old 26-08-2015, 05:24 PM   #8051
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Skyline.

I'm looking for a beginner's utility knife for bait'n'tackle/EDC purposes.

Thinking of purchasing Shikiwaru's Kershaw Skyline. Would like everyone's take on the knife itself in terms of quality, durability, (whatever other criteria you think applicable) and whether it suits my requirements. Alternative suggestions welcome. Thanks.

Edit: Just saw the China vs US debate a page back. Wonder how a Kershaw would rate against China knives. (Though I've heard some Kershaw is MIC)

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Old 26-08-2015, 06:53 PM   #8052
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I'm looking for a beginner's utility knife for bait'n'tackle/EDC purposes.

Thinking of purchasing Shikiwaru's Kershaw Skyline. Would like everyone's take on the knife itself in terms of quality, durability, (whatever other criteria you think applicable) and whether it suits my requirements. Alternative suggestions welcome. Thanks.

Edit: Just saw the China vs US debate a page back. Wonder how a Kershaw would rate against China knives. (Though I've heard some Kershaw is MIC)
The Skyline is supposedly a really good Made in USA knife at a reasonable price. I have not handled one yet (will change after tonight), but it is a knife that is in many people's recommended lists for beginners.

I'm do not do fishing, and I'm not too sure how good it'll be for the task.

I'm expecting the G10 handles to have medium traction, not anything crazy like Cold Steel.

Bead-blasted blade supposedly makes the knife easier to rust, but I have never heard people have issues with Sandvik 14C28N rusting. If you really want a totally rustproof blade, take a look at Spyderco's H1 Steel blades.

Liner lock is not the strongest lock in the world, but if you're not abusing the knife, it will be adequate.

I've heard stuff like the flipper not being as smooth as people want it to, but that may vary with each knife. At worst, I can just take the washers out and polish them. (But, I can give more details on that tonight)

Also, if you're a strictly tip-up carry person, this knife might be disappointing because of the positioning of the clip when in tip-up. That can be remedied with aftermarket Titanium clips from eBay. Speaking of aftermarket, there is quite a plethora of custom Skyline handle scales if you're into that.

From what research I've done on it, it is a pretty awesome EDC knife, even with the shortcomings. That is why it is so popular. As for bait and tackle, I'm sure it can handle it, but it may not be the best knife for the task.
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Old 26-08-2015, 06:58 PM   #8053
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I think Vespaguy referred to Endura.

Looks like there are aftermarket G10 scales for Endura. Thanks Shikiwaru, for your BladeHQ link.
Oh, if that is the case, you can get the Endura scales directly from the man himself. It is cheaper, but I'm not very sure how much shipping will be to Singapore.

Also, do exercise caution when taking apart lockbacks. They are not as straightforward as liner locks or frame locks. It might get frustrating if you're doing it for the first time.
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Old 26-08-2015, 07:14 PM   #8054
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I'm not much of a fisherman myself which is why I have no idea what type of unique requirements (if any) a knife used in those conditions would need to have. Off the top of my head I can only say it stands to reason that how well a knife stands up to moderate exposure to sea water might be an issue.

Which is why I'm asking here, hoping to pick the brain of knife-fans who also happen to be into fishing at sea.

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By the way, how well does the Skyline hold an edge. Because I'm not entirely sure if the person I intend to buy this for is much of a meticulous sharpener.
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Old 26-08-2015, 07:20 PM   #8055
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I'm looking for a beginner's utility knife for bait'n'tackle/EDC purposes.

Thinking of purchasing Shikiwaru's Kershaw Skyline. Would like everyone's take on the knife itself in terms of quality, durability, (whatever other criteria you think applicable) and whether it suits my requirements. Alternative suggestions welcome. Thanks.

Edit: Just saw the China vs US debate a page back. Wonder how a Kershaw would rate against China knives. (Though I've heard some Kershaw is MIC)
I'm not a fisherman, but I would think that a pair of scissors will cut lines the best, plus a box cutter in the toolkit for the messy jobs. IF you're talking about gutting and cleaning fish, I would avoid folders completely. Buy a cheap fillet knife/paring knife - those do a better job.

IF you want a folding knife, I would recommend those with H1 steel - whether freshwater or saltwater fishing, and in yellow scales
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