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Old 05-01-2018, 03:35 PM   #136
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smappee looks interesting, but the costs is quite high, 189 Euros means 300 plus SGD?
with that you can get around 15 pcs of Sonoff POW which allow u to do the same thing to individual appliances and apply granular controls.
I think the premium you pay for smappee is for the convenience ba... altho i agree the granular control is something that smappee lacks.

I'm also not so sure if smappee works in SG's electrical system... hope any bros here can share share if they know anything about smappee
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Old 05-01-2018, 03:39 PM   #137
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Lol! Wake words should be the least of your concerns. But I remember watching a CNET review which showed that the wake word can be changed to "Hey Google".

The thing about HA imho, at least currently, is that products are all overpriced and likely to be compatible with only 1 ecosystem and not the rest. There is no way we can "try out" GH or HK as surely something's not gonna work. That sucks from consumer's point of view.


haha i know it should be the least of my concern but if i'm getting a voice assistant i'd much prefer to be able to rename it to something that sound more natural locally lah... at least it wont sound awkward when i invite friends over and show to them how it works mah lol

ya.. after 2 weeks of online research, i also felt that the products are still quite pricey, especially small things like smart plugs, smart switch panels and bulbs etc... iot need to be more mainstream before the prices of these things start to make more commercial sense lah.

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Old 05-01-2018, 03:50 PM   #138
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U can call it ok goo-goo if u lik. Sumtimes it will respond to u. Hahh

Same for Alexa, u can call her AH-laksa.. She response well too. Hahh
HAHA recently got this viral video on fb about an italian ah ma using google home for the first time... keep calling it "goo goo" damn funny lol if i can post link i'd definitely share it here
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Old 05-01-2018, 10:19 PM   #139
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tbh, if you are new to HA I would recommend investing in zigbee / zwave / wifi setup, these protocols are built with security features. A layer of defense against sniffing, rf 433 traffic is easily decoded.. (google, rf 433 sniffers)

Not sure about the rest, I would place functionality and security equally important in a HA setup, the last thing I would want to learn is someone in the cloud controlling my IoT devices (google, Mirai bots) Imagine some joker switching on and off your lights when you are having your bath

You might want to learn how to create a vlan for your IoT devices. If one of your IoT devices got compromised, at least it doesn't affect your home network.
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Old 05-01-2018, 11:23 PM   #140
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tbh, if you are new to HA I would recommend investing in zigbee / zwave / wifi setup, these protocols are built with security features. A layer of defense against sniffing, rf 433 traffic is easily decoded.. (google, rf 433 sniffers)

Not sure about the rest, I would place functionality and security equally important in a HA setup, the last thing I would want to learn is someone in the cloud controlling my IoT devices (google, Mirai bots) Imagine some joker switching on and off your lights when you are having your bath

You might want to learn how to create a vlan for your IoT devices. If one of your IoT devices got compromised, at least it doesn't affect your home network.
wow, this is a super valid point. at one point during my online research i find myself asking if rf devices can travel up to 20 metres, wont my neighbour be able to discover my device if he also has a broadlink rm pro? or am i asking a dumb question?

i dont think i am at the level to diy my own zigbee/zwave setup yet... still need to read more! oh btw bro, what do u mean by vlan for my iot devices?
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Old 06-01-2018, 01:57 PM   #141
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Some useful read if u have concerns on HA security:
https://www.cnet.com/news/how-hackab...-home-gadgets/

tbh, if you are new to HA I would recommend investing in zigbee / zwave / wifi setup, these protocols are built with security features. A layer of defense against sniffing, rf 433 traffic is easily decoded.. (google, rf 433 sniffers)

Not sure about the rest, I would place functionality and security equally important in a HA setup, the last thing I would want to learn is someone in the cloud controlling my IoT devices (google, Mirai bots) Imagine some joker switching on and off your lights when you are having your bath

You might want to learn how to create a vlan for your IoT devices. If one of your IoT devices got compromised, at least it doesn't affect your home network.
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Old 06-01-2018, 06:06 PM   #142
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wow, this is a super valid point. at one point during my online research i find myself asking if rf devices can travel up to 20 metres, wont my neighbour be able to discover my device if he also has a broadlink rm pro? or am i asking a dumb question?
Haha.. Actually i think if ppl wana sniff ur RF... Den start controlling ur lights, wld be funny. Firstly i duno who wana do dat... Esp must be very near u, within ur range. If ur frds wana ji siao u... Oso need come dwn ur hse to scan which i tink most ppl r too lazy uless they r out to get u...

Secondly, if they hav interest to on n off ur lights for u... Mayb can intro them the HA or how to setup smart devices... Tink they will be potential users next.

Mayb jus dun do the rf unlock door can liao.
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Old 09-01-2018, 06:08 PM   #143
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Actually let not get confuse with home control and home automation.

Conventional control are via the physical switches, but with technology, control can be in the form of apps via smart phone and voice via alexa, google home....

Home automation is more like how programmable the system is....

In my opinion, to have a future-proof solution, the fundamental of your home automation should be in place first than move on to the voice controlled integration.

If you have everything that is cloud based, what if your internet or router is down.... can your house still function? No doubt cloud based HA is cheap because all the processing muscle are transferred over to the service provider.

Don't just focus solely on the price point alone.... end of the day, you are going to be using the system.....

Yo, welcome to endless reading HA is still an ever-changing landscape, more and more players are emerging now, it gonna be more segregated. Probably non would be a future-proof solution. It's more on which one meets your requirements at the current point of time and most the importantly, budget..

For me, I would wait until I settle the renovation and when want to move in then review again on the available products. And not forgetting rewiring the Neutral line to all the light switches..

I want the HA integration with HomeKit because my family is using IOS.. So, I have to choose a platform with large base users, as the community support is required to write the HomeBridge plugin. More people use = the plugin will be available quicker, bugs solved quicker too

As of now, Mi Home caught my attention.. Reasonable price, quality products, large user base, and integration are widely available.





I see, meh. There is no perfect solution, just need to find workaround
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Old 19-01-2018, 04:02 PM   #144
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Hi bros, just sharing... Maybe some of u already know...

Recently found out google app have home control function and now recognised broadlink account too. Meaning.... U can add ur acct there and use hp google-assistant to ON n OFF ur stuffs by... Voice to hp OR by typing!

But i realised doesn't do tv remote... Lights and SCENES work. U can add ur lights to a group and activate the group. Nice...

Im an Alexa user... But i welcome this google-assistant function on my hp! Best is its free.. No need buy any google home or mini.


Wat u need (according to my settings) to have and to do :

1.Google app beta installed on hp (pls google to see how to be a beta user,
https://support.google.com/googlepla.../7003180?hl=en )

2. Broadlink IHC app (some lights template to play ard in app, Not tv remote template)

3. Link/enabled broadlink acct to google-assistant settings, home control function.

And u are good to go! Enjoy!

Commands are,

Turn on/off {device name}
Turn on/off {group name}





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Old 23-01-2018, 02:41 AM   #145
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Hi bros, just out of curiosity, do you guys mind sharing:

1) your current own HA setup
2) how much (roughly) you have spent so far
3) any regrets on your setup so far
4) what is your next HA project

I personally have not started my HA project yet... tho i'm getting my bto keys tmr!

TIA!
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Old 23-01-2018, 06:02 PM   #146
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Talking Broadlink

Hi bros, just out of curiosity, do you guys mind sharing:

1) your current own HA setup
2) how much (roughly) you have spent so far
3) any regrets on your setup so far
4) what is your next HA project

I personally have not started my HA project yet... tho i'm getting my bto keys tmr!

TIA!
hello there, i dun mind sharing wit u on my simple setup of smart devices... i didn't use the big brands or powerful systems due to my 'budget' ,

i'm currently experimental using the cheap Broadlink S2 alarm kit (with sensors), RM pro3, cheap brandless RF sockets, Echo dots(Alexa) & mobile phone's free google-assistant.

with all the listed stuffs, i can switch ON/OFF a floor lamp on RF socket for example via the below ways,
1) manual click power button on RF socket
2) RF socket's own remote control to RF socket
3) RM Pro RF signal to RF socket (via RM Pro's app)
4) Echo dots(Alexa) voice commands to RF socket (via RM Pro)
5) Mobile phone's Google-Assistant voice/type commands to RF socket (via RM Pro)
6) Broadlink's sensor signal to RF socket (via S2 Hub + RM Pro)

total spent around S$300 (bulk of the $ due to the purchase of my 3 Echo Dots)

currently awaiting for my RF wall switches to arrive and will implement similar setup for individual switches. (cost quite abit, ard S$400 as I bought about 12 switches + 1 remote controller)

Regrets? Why have regrets, just having fun exploring ard by adding more options to control your stuffs (unless if u mean the amt of $ spent).

Overall happy with what I have done now, hope this helps!
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Old 24-01-2018, 06:36 AM   #147
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Hi bros, just sharing... Maybe some of u already know...

Recently found out google app have home control function and now recognised broadlink account too. Meaning.... U can add ur acct there and use hp google-assistant to ON n OFF ur stuffs by... Voice to hp OR by typing!

But i realised doesn't do tv remote... Lights and SCENES work. U can add ur lights to a group and activate the group. Nice...

Im an Alexa user... But i welcome this google-assistant function on my hp! Best is its free.. No need buy any google home or mini.


Wat u need (according to my settings) to have and to do :

1.Google app beta installed on hp (pls google to see how to be a beta user,
https://support.google.com/googlepla.../7003180?hl=en )
Hi, I can't find the Google app
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Old 24-01-2018, 08:10 AM   #148
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Hi, I can't find the Google app
Android phone shld have it installed alrdy? Else u can go Google play download.

Google app (Beta), must join the beta user program.







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Old 24-01-2018, 08:29 AM   #149
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Android phone shld have it installed alrdy? Else u can go Google play download.

Google app (Beta), must join the beta user program.
Oh, are u using iOS? Tot u were talking a diff beta Google app that I must install separately from the one that comes with my Android phone.

I just ordered the Xiaomi smart remote, similar to broadlink. See how it goes.

BTW, does this work with Google Home?
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Oh, are u using iOS? Tot u were talking a diff beta Google app that I must install separately from the one that comes with my Android phone.

I just ordered the Xiaomi smart remote, similar to broadlink. See how it goes.

BTW, does this work with Google Home?
Nope, mi using android too. 😬

This home control function only in Google app beta version as far as i know.

I tink Google Home is using same google-assistant AI as other Google products therefore yes, it is applicable to Google Home.
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