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Old 21-02-2018, 02:39 AM   #196
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Hey there.. I just got my livolo switches. Is there any kind soul who can guide me to wiring the 2 way switch?

I have had no issues with the 1 way switches.

I have a 1g2w at the entrance. And a 2g2w at hallway. 1 of the switch from the 2g2w will be used as a 1 way switch.. whereas the remaining 1 switch will have to work as 2 way with the one at the entrance, 1g2w.

Tried to find online but can't seem to know which wires goes to the a and b.
I have no experience with 2 way switches, but I saw this wiring diagram in the aliexpress product page

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Old 21-02-2018, 02:48 AM   #197
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Hi 233mmx, my wife intially also reluntant to let me install the 'smart' devices, but after some convincing and real-life demo.. now she can see the positives of the stuffs we have got, she even went on to recommend her friends when her friends visit our home! I realise how much u try to tell/explain to frds, they usualli cannot see the picture, only till they see a live demo in my hse den they also wanna do the same.

As for your wife not liking to talk to Alexa, i guess can try to make Alexa help your wife in terms of other means instead of on/off device which maybe ur wife is not interested in. Maybe help on the cooking recipes, act as timer, calender notification or playing music can slowly get her to warm up to Alexa, that happens for my wife's case though. Good luck!
She gets frustrated because Alexa voice training done by me so her accent is not always recognised by Alexa, end up her voice commands are always hit & miss

Nice idea you have to get your wife hooked to the helpful stuff that Alexa can do for her I have tried sometime ago but she's not convinced enough
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Old 21-02-2018, 02:59 AM   #198
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bro, so regardless which rm pro it doesnt matter? can teach me how? seems somewhat complicated...
the beauty of using RM Pro is that it can control any device with an RF or IR remote, so when you integrate with Alexa via RM plugin, she can theoretically control any device

if you further setup Alexa routines, you can trigger the device automatically based on timing, for e.g. vacuum at certain timing every day or certain days of the week
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Old 21-02-2018, 03:17 AM   #199
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Yeah got my rm pro from her too. Great seller and service.

Nobody is using the europe livolo 2 way?
Din know there was such a seller in SG for broadlink products. I got mine all from aliexpress which are generally cheaper but shipping takes quite long for certain sellers
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Old 21-02-2018, 04:01 AM   #200
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But I think now, there's an option to select Singapore as your main address.
Prior, only I was able to modify Alexa to take Singapore as an address and it allowed me to say, 'Alexa, where's the nearest McDonald's?' or 'Alexa, what's the weather like?' and it will answer appropriately. However, out of nowhere, I couldn't get Alexa to tell me the nearest restaurants with it saying the feature might be coming in the future. When I checked settings, it seems to have changed to accept my Singapore address instead of disallowing me from registering a Singapore address unless I use some coding again.
In overseas Amazon Echo forums (e.g. echotalk.org), there's a lot of discussion on Amazon's decisions to geo-fence their skills and lots of non-US Echo owners are not able to fully access all the skills that US customers get. Bummer

I have had my Echo dots since 2016 and back then it took some workarounds to get it working in SG, thanks to earlier adopters who learnt by the hard way. Personally, I would still recommend setting US address and location for the Echo devices to get early access to all the latest skills and functionality.

Did you know you can ask Alexa to voice call as well as send SMSes to your mobile? There's also a new product called Echo Connect which can integrate Alexa with your land line at home but I have not heard of anyone using it outside of US at the moment.
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In overseas Amazon Echo forums (e.g. echotalk.org), there's a lot of discussion on Amazon's decisions to geo-fence their skills and lots of non-US Echo owners are not able to fully access all the skills that US customers get. Bummer

I have had my Echo dots since 2016 and back then it took some workarounds to get it working in SG, thanks to earlier adopters who learnt by the hard way. Personally, I would still recommend setting US address and location for the Echo devices to get early access to all the latest skills and functionality.

Did you know you can ask Alexa to voice call as well as send SMSes to your mobile? There's also a new product called Echo Connect which can integrate Alexa with your land line at home but I have not heard of anyone using it outside of US at the moment.
Hi guys, yes the voice call and SMS works, tested before.

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for voice call, u ask alexa to call {name} and the person mobile phone will receive the call stated from your home by Alexa, something like that.

for SMS, is more interesting as it will actually send a SMS to the recipient with the text u have said and oso the voice recording link, which upon click will bring u to a site to hear the voice recording.
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I have no experience with 2 way switches, but I saw this wiring diagram in the aliexpress product page

Yeah got my rm pro from her too. Great seller and service.

Nobody is using the europe livolo 2 way?
By right in our SG context, our wiring should follow the UK standard but seems like topherw86 's 2-way is done the 'EU" standard, with only one wire for the 2-way connection.

best is for him to get a EU Livolo 2-way switch which has the 1 COM port which he can use his existing one wire to connect.

however for topherw86 , suggest u talk to ur electrician first about this as they are professional, ask if possible to config the current 1-wire to 2-wire ?? maybe there is still some ways to do it.
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Once I tried to send a SMS to my wife, she thought my phone was infected with virus because it looks like a spam SMS sent from my Android phone

for SMS, is more interesting as it will actually send a SMS to the recipient with the text u have said and oso the voice recording link, which upon click will bring u to a site to hear the voice recording.
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Old 21-02-2018, 10:50 AM   #204
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Actually I dun think our SG wiring is plug and play with such smart switches in the first place. The extra wire should a direct live wire bypassing the looping circuit.

In my opinion, if you have 2-way switches, you really only need to replace 1 of them with a smart switch.

In my home I do not have any 2-way switches and I only replaced those switches that I would foresee being used frequently. For e.g. my storeroom light is still controlled by a "dumb" switch


By right in our SG context, our wiring should follow the UK standard but seems like topherw86 's 2-way is done the 'EU" standard, with only one wire for the 2-way connection.
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Old 21-02-2018, 10:53 AM   #205
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She gets frustrated because Alexa voice training done by me so her accent is not always recognised by Alexa, end up her voice commands are always hit & miss

Nice idea you have to get your wife hooked to the helpful stuff that Alexa can do for her I have tried sometime ago but she's not convinced enough
Hi, i understand the fustration whe Alexa don't 'listen' to the commands.
However there are still 2 things u can do to improve the situation.

1. Create an Amazon and Alexa account for your wife, she doesn't need to have any Alexa device registered to her, just account will do. After which, you create a household to add your wife in, once she is in the same household, she can use the Alexa devices registered under your main account as per normal.

Then goto ur Alexa app and settings, look for 'Voice Profile', not training but Voice Profile. Alexa app will ask u to read a few sentences, so that Alexa can recgonise your voice. After you are done, you ask "Alexa, who am I", Alexa will say "You are {name}, in {name}'s account". Bingo! now your Alexa can recgonise you voice.

Goto your wife's App and do the same, once done, ask Alexa the same and Alexa will reply "You are {wife name}, in {husband name}'s account". If Alexa is able to detect correct, she has successfully learn the voice.

As for switch of account, say "Alexa, switch account". it will switch account by saying "now in {name} account", but personally i think there is no need to keep switching account for my case, i'm always in my main account.

But there are some benefits for switching account, for eg. I also setup TrackR (to find your phone) in our respective accounts. so when i'm in my account, i will say "Alexa, ask Trackr to find my phone", then my mobile iwll ring at its loudest even when it is mute or silent mode. If i want to find my wife's phone, i will need to switch to wife's account and say same command and wife's phone will ring instead of mine.

For smart home devices, I only setup in my main account so if want to ask Alexa to on/off device, needs to be in my account.

However I also realise if you have multi Alexa, and group play music. it doesnt matter which account they are in, they will still play as per normal as they have been grouped together.

2. 2nd thing you can do is everytime when u or wife said a command, if it is right den goto the app history and click 'yes' for alexa hear correctly. this will eventually helps Alexa to understand the speech and next time you say chances of getting right will be higher, it's suppose to work that way. As for those commands that miss, click 'No' Alexa didn't hear correctly. overtime, hope it will help.

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Actually I dun think our SG wiring is plug and play with such smart switches in the first place. The extra wire should a direct live wire bypassing the looping circuit.

In my opinion, if you have 2-way switches, you really only need to replace 1 of them with a smart switch.

In my home I do not have any 2-way switches and I only replaced those switches that I would foresee being used frequently. For e.g. my storeroom light is still controlled by a "dumb" switch
my understanding is oso sumwhat same as urs, but i have yet to try it out. But Livolo always hav disclaimer say need 2 of same 2-way switches to work, just need someone to try out and verify though.

my storeroom is having a 1gang livolo RF switch, and i installed a broadlink s1c door sensor, physically open store door the light will light up, once i close the door , the light will off.

able to acheive this via s1c door sensor->s2 hub->rm pro3->livolo rf switch.
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Old 21-02-2018, 01:47 PM   #207
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Hello HA Gurus,

Newbie looking into setting up his own place for future HA. I've read through the posts here and learnt loads from other user experiences.

As my missus isn't really a techie, I decided to slowly add in devices along the way instead of doing a fresh overhaul of the new place we are getting keys soon, even though I understand its more convenient to set up the foundation at the renovation phase.

Is getting a Google Home + Smartthings hub/router a good start? I have free reign over the 'computer study' so I can start with a live demo there before adding on to the living room.

Things I would like to add on along the way:

1. Smart lights - Philips Hue etc.
2. Smart plugs for appliances
3. Fan less likely since will probably install a normal one during reno
4. Chromecast integration for media

Basically trying to be as futureproof and idiotproof as possible. Don't mind spending a little more as long as its easy to install.

Thanks all and have a nice day!
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I badly want to use Alexa with our Eufy vacuum but sadly, they aren't compatible. This is one thing I'm most disappointed about. I should have gone for Alexa compatible devices.
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I badly want to use Alexa with our Eufy vacuum but sadly, they aren't compatible. This is one thing I'm most disappointed about. I should have gone for Alexa compatible devices.
Eufy ? is it the one that oso have lik an echoDot ?? was selling very cheap last time but due to some functions not supported , i dropped the idea of getting that and get EchoDots instead.

Yes, will be better to get Alexa devices, or Alexa compatible since now the trend for Devices is to link-up with Alexa.
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Old 22-02-2018, 02:27 PM   #210
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I am using Amazon Alexa with RM Pro. As per the seller's advice, I am using an Android box with RM Plugin as a bridge between the Broadlink e-connect app and the Alexa app.
Then all that's left is to make macros. Quite easy after it is up and running. I can easily modify my macros over time including the name of the command to adapt to the changes that I've made such as a new TV that needs my command to adapt to it. I just need to go to the TV remote on the Broadlink app and click on swap frequency and then go to the plugin and edit the macro with the macro from the ihc app and then go to Alexa and click Discover. That's it. It's easier than you think once you understand how it works.

For me personally, I am experimenting the Smart Home feel by using it in my room.

Thankfully, my Fanco fan also acts as the room's main LED light while I have a dedicated LED strip for my PC Desk along with aircon, TV, Speakers.

Due to my Fanco remote using radio waves instead of infrared, I could not use the Logitech harmony. So I depend on the Broadlink RM Pro RM03 along with the Amazon Echo Dot 2 that I bought off of Carousell.
The seller was extremely nice as to provide even instructions as to set up the whole thing.

I went the extra mile as to even set up my Amazon Echo to register my Singapore address which I have yet seen others achieve. So things like weather and the nearest McDonalds or 7-11 will tell me ones that are actually near my house.

The macros on the Broadlink app are easy to set up. I have mine set to turn on aircon at certain times of the night and then turn off and switch back to my Fanco ceiling fan. So as to not waste electricity but still keep the room cool the whole night.
Similarly, there are macros which are specifically for the Amazon Echo which will activate. For example, if I say 'Alexa, turn on food'. It will switch off my Desk LED strip and switch on main room light and then turn on the TV and speakers at the same time too allowing me to just display my PC screen to the TV instead of my monitor and then use my PS4 controller which has been configured as a remote (though with a simple swipe of the touchbar, I can change it back to controller mode thanks to DS4Windows).
I use Mediaplayer Classic via the K-Lite codec pack since it has MadVR so it can send HDR signal to the TV if I am ever watching such a video like movies if need be. I usually highlight all the videos that I want to watch and with a simple click of 'Add to MPC-HC playlist', it will now play all the Youtube videos that I've downloaded back to back with MadVR even upconverting the quality of some low res videos to 4K if need be automatically.
And with this, I can eat while watching some YT videos or animes or Korean variety as I wish depending on what I add to the playlist which I can switch to the next video at any time thanks to the PS4 controller.

I can just say 'Alexa, turn on away' if I want to go out and it'll shut off all the devices that are turned on without me having to manually switch all the devices off.

Amazon Alexa also works with my Xiaomi Robot Vacuum by using the command 'Alexa, start vacuum' and it will clean my room in about 5 minutes while I go off to shower.

With the Echo Dot 2, I can have it make and receive calls for me though I do not wish to use that feature. I am so used to it that I once accidentally almost called Alexa back in the office in order to turn on the lights there.
It has become 2nd nature without me having to physically move to the device or remote which may not be with me. I love it.
Best of all, it only costs me around $100 for both devices.
I plan to add more around the house in the future since it is just super convenient.
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Im not capable to set up.
Prefer look for ppl to do it.
would you selling your services since you have experience and suceeded in setting up?
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