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Old 19-06-2019, 08:49 AM   #886
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Just trying to do a quick survey here. Which setup do you guys normally use.

1) smart switch + dumb light
2) dumb switch + smart light
3) smart switch + smart light

Please share your experiences, I'm still trying to decide which setup to go for. Thanks!!!
I've smart switch + dumb light & wireless switch + smart light. Smart light need to have power on all the time, if someone switch off at the dumb switch, automation will not work. From my experience, I prefer smart light over smart switch because (i) smart light can dim and change color temp (ii) my smart light works more reliably for automation than smart switch.
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Old 19-06-2019, 09:01 AM   #887
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some good reading about robot vacuums and what kind of navigation system they are using

good to have 1 in your HA setup with routines setup for cleaning
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Old 19-06-2019, 09:31 AM   #888
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Just trying to do a quick survey here. Which setup do you guys normally use.

1) smart switch + dumb light
2) dumb switch + smart light
3) smart switch + smart light

Please share your experiences, I'm still trying to decide which setup to go for. Thanks!!!
Is your place new and you have yet to renovate?

I've stayed in my place for more than 10 years so the home automation was retrofitted into existing fixtures so the majority are of option 1. The latest additions are a mixture of options 2 (the dumb light is not dimmable/colour changeable and just installed with Shelly 1 relay to make it smart) and 3. (wireless switches from Xiaomi and Ikea). I had to deal with the constraints of the existing fixtures for example I had 2 architrave switches that were not possible to replace. As I was already staying there and the false ceilings couldn't be touched due to WAF reasons.

Whatever your choice, install neutral wiring at the switches so you have flexibility later on. Anyway it is likely your needs are different as everyone has different requirements/budget so you have to consider your own use cases carefully.
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Old 19-06-2019, 09:40 AM   #889
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Smart Display

Amazon will be selling Echo Show 5 from 26 June.

From Google Home's front, Lenovo just released Lenovo Smart Clock with Google Assistant for sale this week.

The smart display competition has just got more intense.
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Old 20-06-2019, 09:03 AM   #890
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Newbie question,

Is there home automation that intranet only (home network based, no internet needed)? Is it easily setup for tablet (android preferably) ?

Other than lighting? What other useful automation do u guys set your system for?

Been interested doing automation, but if it is internet connected I'm worried about safety especially if using automated lock. Please share your setup usage
Yes you can setup your house automation using your house intranet. I'm doing mine with my house WiFi, but it's not linked to the Internet.
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Old 20-06-2019, 09:43 AM   #891
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Thanks for sharing!

I've smart switch + dumb light & wireless switch + smart light. Smart light need to have power on all the time, if someone switch off at the dumb switch, automation will not work. From my experience, I prefer smart light over smart switch because (i) smart light can dim and change color temp (ii) my smart light works more reliably for automation than smart switch.
Is your place new and you have yet to renovate?

I've stayed in my place for more than 10 years so the home automation was retrofitted into existing fixtures so the majority are of option 1. The latest additions are a mixture of options 2 (the dumb light is not dimmable/colour changeable and just installed with Shelly 1 relay to make it smart) and 3. (wireless switches from Xiaomi and Ikea). I had to deal with the constraints of the existing fixtures for example I had 2 architrave switches that were not possible to replace. As I was already staying there and the false ceilings couldn't be touched due to WAF reasons.

Whatever your choice, install neutral wiring at the switches so you have flexibility later on. Anyway it is likely your needs are different as everyone has different requirements/budget so you have to consider your own use cases carefully.
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Old 20-06-2019, 10:42 AM   #892
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Just trying to do a quick survey here. Which setup do you guys normally use.

1) smart switch + dumb light
2) dumb switch + smart light
3) smart switch + smart light

Please share your experiences, I'm still trying to decide which setup to go for. Thanks!!!
Option 3!, most flexible option of all, but most costly :/.
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Old 20-06-2019, 11:00 AM   #893
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I'm thinking of entering home assistant, currently have mihome setup at home with yeelights and aqara switch/sensors etc, however with the sensors, there seems to be a delay sometime, maybe because of the china server i guess?

Is it difficult to transfer all to home assistant? Any particular guide to follow?
https://www.home-assistant.io/

Will be getting the raspberry thingy soon, just needed to confirm and wanna know what i'm getting into. Are all the xiaomi stuff supported? or only selected


What are the risks? Are there any risks?
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Old 20-06-2019, 11:07 AM   #894
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Because not all lights (limited selection) can be smarten, I'd suggest to go with all smart switches first, and you can add smart light later..
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Old 20-06-2019, 11:31 AM   #895
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I'm thinking of entering home assistant, currently have mihome setup at home with yeelights and aqara switch/sensors etc, however with the sensors, there seems to be a delay sometime, maybe because of the china server i guess?

Is it difficult to transfer all to home assistant? Any particular guide to follow?
https://www.home-assistant.io/

Will be getting the raspberry thingy soon, just needed to confirm and wanna know what i'm getting into. Are all the xiaomi stuff supported? or only selected


What are the risks? Are there any risks?
1. See the components page for supported devices
2. Must be comfortable with Linux
3. Must be comfortable with debugging problems and HASS breaking change.
4. When HASS YAML automation cannot provide the complex automation, then you need Python scripting to get what you need.
5. For RPi, get a good SD card, back up configuration regularly and be prepared to restore, when necessary. Massive write and power outage can kill/corrupt the SD card.
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Old 20-06-2019, 12:36 PM   #896
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I'm thinking of entering home assistant, currently have mihome setup at home with yeelights and aqara switch/sensors etc, however with the sensors, there seems to be a delay sometime, maybe because of the china server i guess?

Is it difficult to transfer all to home assistant? Any particular guide to follow?
https://www.home-assistant.io/

Will be getting the raspberry thingy soon, just needed to confirm and wanna know what i'm getting into. Are all the xiaomi stuff supported? or only selected


What are the risks? Are there any risks?
1. Follow https://www.home-assistant.io/getting-started/ to install.
2. Once hassio is up, follow https://www.home-assistant.io/components/xiaomi_aqara/ to setup Xiaomi gateway. For yeelight, follow https://www.home-assistant.io/components/yeelight/.
3. Restart the Pi and your switches/bulbs/sensors will be auto discovered. Play with the UI to know where are the discovered devices.
4. Write automation.

If your gateway is the Aqara version, then it is not supported in HA, read the link above. It is also a good idea to stop firmware update on these devices.
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Old 20-06-2019, 02:59 PM   #897
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3. Must be comfortable with debugging problems and HASS breaking change.
4. When HASS YAML automation cannot provide the complex automation, then you need Python scripting to get what you need.
There are ways around these:
1. Use Node-RED if you don't like Jinja2 templating used in HA and prefer visual way of doing things. More importantly there are tons of examples to copy and paste from and no need to reinvent the YAML wheel. Plenty of videos to watch for HA as well.

2. No need to keep updated to the latest HA version, go to the HA forums and find out if there are breaking changes before updating.

Finally some people here advocate and use OpenHAB which is an alternative to HA.
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Old 20-06-2019, 07:10 PM   #898
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Is the latest 32bit hassio image working on the pi 3b+? I've been flashing my sdcard a few times but it doesn't boot completely =(

My sd card boots fine when I image the rasbian lite and ran node red...
tried 2 cards same problem..
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Old 21-06-2019, 09:48 AM   #899
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I think I will get the Philips Hue lightstrip as I want to use it also as part of my main lighting, not only as an ambiance light, since they have the highest lumen at 1600 that I can find so far.

Just wanted to check with you guys before I pull the trigger. I understand we can't use the Hue bulbs because they are using different voltage and lamp base compared to what we used here. But can we buy the Hue lightstrip and Bridge on US Amazon and use it here? Do we have an issue on the different voltages and frequencies? Has anyone buy from the Hue lightings from US Amazon before?
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Old 21-06-2019, 10:30 AM   #900
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I think I will get the Philips Hue lightstrip as I want to use it also as part of my main lighting, not only as an ambiance light, since they have the highest lumen at 1600 that I can find so far.

Just wanted to check with you guys before I pull the trigger. I understand we can't use the Hue bulbs because they are using different voltage and lamp base compared to what we used here. But can we buy the Hue lightstrip and Bridge on US Amazon and use it here? Do we have an issue on the different voltages and frequencies? Has anyone buy from the Hue lightings from US Amazon before?
I don't understand, Hue has local products so you can just buy it from store like Best/Challenger or online stores. You might also want to consider Yeelight, the strip is less than half the cost of Hue. A comparison review between Hue and Yeelight, https://qanvast.com/sg/articles/phil...ines-best-1734.
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