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Old 19-09-2010, 10:45 AM   #1741
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I got my Pana sys 3 inventer recently... I'm having a push-out window type for my masterbed room, after installing the new bracket, the installer then realised that they may have to "file" the lower part of the window! And told me there's no way to lower the bracket further (which I doubt so). But luckily after installing the condenser, my window was able to open without any "filing"... it misses the condenser by merely a 3mm gap!

So far I'm happy with this product, it's quiet and able to cool my room fast (compare to my previous non-inverter unit).
Hi,

Your Panasonic 3 System Inverter is CS-3S27KKZ or CS-S9JKZWx3(CU-3S27JKZ)?

Can share your experience/comments since I am also planning to buy Panasonic 3 System Inverter.

the Compressor is very big? Quiet? and Cooler?

Thanks.
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Old 19-09-2010, 04:35 PM   #1742
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Hi,

You are using Panasonic System 3 Inverter CS-S9JKZWx3(CU-3S27JKZ) or CS-3S27KKZ?

How's the performance and the Compressor is quiet?

Hope to hear you comments as I plan to install it also.

Thanks.
Hi, im using the Panasonic System 3 Inverter CS-3S27KKZ, the performance is good and the compressor is quiet, have been using it for few months already, no issues.
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Old 19-09-2010, 11:41 PM   #1743
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Hi, im using the Panasonic System 3 Inverter CS-3S27KKZ, the performance is good and the compressor is quiet, have been using it for few months already, no issues.
Heard tat Panasonic Compressor is very big. Hows the size? Normal HDB Casement Windows can go in?

Hows ur utilities bills after using Panasonic?

Thanks.
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Old 25-09-2010, 07:10 AM   #1744
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LG vs Mit?

Choosing a System 4. The salesman told me my block can only use 8.5 amp compressor and I can only choose between a LG inverter or Starmex inverter. True? LG got more features (ion, filters, etc) and is about $400 cheaper.

Anyone used LG system 4 before? I guess Mit Starmex is more popular but is it worth the $400 extra?

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Old 25-09-2010, 08:18 AM   #1745
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choose brand which specialise in aircon.
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Old 25-09-2010, 02:37 PM   #1746
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choose brand which specialise in aircon.
Which is neither?
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Old 25-09-2010, 02:49 PM   #1747
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Heard tat Panasonic Compressor is very big. Hows the size? Normal HDB Casement Windows can go in?

Hows ur utilities bills after using Panasonic?

Thanks.
Yes the compressor is very big, as my HDB flat is those older flats, the compressor is able to go over the window. Imagine paying almost 280 a month for electric bill for using non inverter and after changing to this inverter aircon, my electric bill is reduced to below 200 a month now
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Old 30-09-2010, 02:01 PM   #1748
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i regret never installing living room air con when i installed for my bedrooms. so hot now!

now i want to install but think of all the trucking need to do abit sian.

ppl please 1 shot install air-con for living room and bedroom if you are installing at all. don't do half half like me. big regret.
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Old 30-09-2010, 05:48 PM   #1749
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i regret never installing living room air con when i installed for my bedrooms. so hot now!

now i want to install but think of all the trucking need to do abit sian.

ppl please 1 shot install air-con for living room and bedroom if you are installing at all. don't do half half like me. big regret.
how tedious is it to re install? It is possible to add one air con unit (same brand and model for previous) and change the compressor to bigger btu?
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Old 30-09-2010, 08:14 PM   #1750
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i regret never installing living room air con when i installed for my bedrooms. so hot now!

now i want to install but think of all the trucking need to do abit sian.

ppl please 1 shot install air-con for living room and bedroom if you are installing at all. don't do half half like me. big regret.
i am also like u. and now need to install have to remove this n that to install the aircon. think already really v sian.
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Old 01-10-2010, 07:47 AM   #1751
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Yup, mitsubishi ish the best. Using the mitsubishi electric inverter aircon now..... Very quiet.......
mit too cold, set at one bar with 25 still very cold.
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Old 01-10-2010, 09:04 AM   #1752
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mit too cold, set at one bar with 25 still very cold.
yup, nowadays i can only set my degree at 27 still feel very cold..........
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Old 02-10-2010, 11:48 AM   #1753
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Hi all, just sharing my experiences.

For months I was looking for a suitable unit to replace my 8-year old Fujitsu which finally broke down last yr.

After doing a ton of research, I finally settled on a non-inverter model. (My sis and I may be moving out in a few yrs and we don't wish to spend $3-4k on inverter whose savings we are unlikely to recoup. Also, I eventually found that Panasonic uses 2 compressors, which will help reduce the bill for my usage pattern - see below)

I visited the following stores:
Everjoint at AMK - despite all the good comments about them, I was unimpressed with the way they handle customers. Boss/owner didn't even know the prices of the aircons. Tried to upsell me from Toshiba ($18xx) to Daikin ($21xx).
Gain City - the experience was what I had expected from a chain store. Salesman tried to upsell from Samsung to inverter models straightaway, but when he saw what a cheapo I was, he couldn't be bothered...
Kun Seng - went on a Saturday after seeing ads in newspapers, turned out that prices didn't include GST nor installation. I was quoted $17xx for a Panasonic, was about to commit but thankfully didn't as later I found out it was the older CU-3C20EKH model. Tried to upsell me to a Daikin with one energy tick...
Aircon Designs - Recommended by friend. They were the ones who did my Fujitsu, but it seems they now only do industrial installations. They only recommended me inverter models, and prices not competitive also. Sales rep was pleasant and responded quickly though.
Natural Cool - Decided to go with them in the end. I was quoted $15xx for the latest model Panasonic (CU-3C20KKZ) incl. GST, dismantling of old Fujitsu, and new bracket. Insulation would be Nyflex 1/4" thick. Salesman was pleasant and not pushy, didn't try to upsell anything.

Installation was done by Natural Cool's own guys, a team of 2 M'sians who were friendly and easygoing, and were careful not to make a mess despite the cramped working area due to many furniture not being movable.

They used brand-new and shiny copper pipe, also Nyflex branded, sealed in bags. The Nyflex insulation appears to be of pretty good quality compared to the one at a certain chain store which was so weak I was able to tear off a piece with 2 fingers

Work was started at 11am and finished at around 6pm.

As stated this Panny (CU-3C20KKZ) has 2 compressors, a 12,000 BTU one shared by 2 rooms and a 9,000 BTU one for 1 room. I assigned the 9K BTU one to my sister's room as she has a habit of leaving her aircon on at lowest temp all day when friends come round. That way, the maximum power consumption will only be "9K" rather than "12K".

There were 2 negative areas:
1. They had to reuse old trunking in the bathroom as it appeared to be "glued" to the tiles and they claimed pulling it off might damage the tiles. I didn't want to take the risk, so I agreed.
2. After mounting the FCU in my master bedroom, they found that the airflow flap would hit the curtain rail when opened. The only solution was to adjust part of the curtain rail downwards. This is also partly my fault, as I should have checked rather than blindly reuse the old FCU location.

Anyway I am now enjoying my new and freezing cold room after more than 6 mths of tiring research. No more noisy window aircon!

Hope this experience is useful to some ppl. If anyone wants reviews on the aircon itself, please let me know.

P.S. For those worried about noise, the condensing unit is very quiet. I can hardly hear it even when I am standing at my window next to it. Of course, things might change down the road if either Panny or NC have done a crap job...

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Old 13-10-2010, 06:05 PM   #1754
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How about Daikin? Prices may be slightly on the high side but most condominiums in Singapore used Daikin, especially the good property developers for major projects. You may also want to consider Panasonic or Mitsubishi.
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Old 13-10-2010, 06:13 PM   #1755
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Mine is a Panasonic. I got it installed some 3 months ago. Got a system 2 for my room and my mum's. When I turned it on after a while, my room become cold but my bed is not. Could it be that the aircon is positioned at the corner of my room besides the bed and not directly blowing onto my bed as in it is placed on top of my bed and to the side? Or is it a case that Panasonic is not a great brand for aircon?
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