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Old 20-03-2013, 06:21 PM   #3301
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Terumo,

One more qn, if price wise the same, Starmex or pana new series sys 3? One is like old model but quiet operation, one is new model. noise is impt because its for old flat and sound cannot be loud
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Old 20-03-2013, 09:34 PM   #3302
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cooldudey,

Noise not that much of difference.
Did u check if all best Pana is the latest model?
Sometimes their price r cheaper cause they r clearing old stocks.
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Old 20-03-2013, 09:35 PM   #3303
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redsugar,

$2.7-$2.9k should be possible.
$2.5k quite hard unless u go for brands like Mit Hvy Ind, Midea.
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Old 20-03-2013, 10:08 PM   #3304
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Turemo,
Yup they said its the 2013, ending pkw model.
2.6?

Two qn,
1. do we need to upgrade insulation aka GC if buying inverter?

2. How is all bxxt installation compared to gc? Is it that bad as mentioned in forums?
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Old 21-03-2013, 08:30 AM   #3305
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Thanx turemo.. Will take note and beef up budget.. Read your blog and found it useful. Buying aircon is such a headache.

Cos of my low usage (high floor), i am trying to get the most value for my money.

Oh yes. R22 gas will be available till 2020 right? Or am i not correct?
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Old 21-03-2013, 10:30 AM   #3306
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Hi terumo.

Is it normal air con compressor to have some water leaking?
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Old 21-03-2013, 11:27 AM   #3307
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red sugar,

U can check out pana new model 2013, 2.6k at all bxxt. its going for 2.95k at GC.

GC kept telling pppl to upgrade insulation from 3/8 inch to thicker ones, i think thats how they earn.
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Old 22-03-2013, 07:53 AM   #3308
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I heard about allbxxx.. Seems like a trusted merchant?

My intention is to get a good reliable unit for my house. Since i am not a aircon man, so is my wife and mil.. A cheap (but reliable) unit will suffice..
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Old 22-03-2013, 10:33 AM   #3309
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Hi Terumo,

i'll be getting my 4-rm resale sometime end of next month. I'm looking to install aircon for the 3 bedrooms (leaving out the living room). My usage pattern shall be from 8pm to 530am daily. I've an aircon ledge attached to the main bedroom.

I'm thinking of getting daikin. Can anybody suggest a system configuration for my needs?

Can anybody recommend an aircon company as well?

Thanks in advance.
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Old 22-03-2013, 03:42 PM   #3310
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Need some advise.

Need to change my air-con and is considering below model from ME-Starmex. Please advise if is good. Thank you.
Meant for 2 Bedroom

Model: MXY-3A28VA
System 3
3 HP Condensing Unit
30366 BTU
Dc Twin Rotary

Model: MSY-GE13VA
1.5 HP Wall Mounted Unit x 2
11942 BTU

Quoted by GC: $2.5K included all installation and dismantle plus upgrade to 1/2 inch insulation pipping but unsure about the copper pipe.

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Old 23-03-2013, 12:27 PM   #3311
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For Mitsubishi Starmex, MXY3A28VA and 3xMSYGE10VA
3/8" class 1 armaflex, swg23(0.61mm) copper pipe. Price $2,989 is this price reasonable?
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For Mitsubishi Starmex, MXY3A28VA and 3xMSYGE10VA
3/8" class 1 armaflex, swg23(0.61mm) copper pipe. Price $2,989 is this price reasonable?
Care to share which shop?
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Old 23-03-2013, 07:53 PM   #3313
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Gc, with $150 trade in for old aircon.
1yr warranty for all parts, 5 yr warranty for compressor(one time change)

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Old 24-03-2013, 12:57 PM   #3314
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hi everyone... i see GC and some major stores offering 1yr installation WS and parts warranty... and 5yr compressor warranty... it's becoming more common and seems as though it is now part of the package...

And i also noticed forumers mentioned that the warranty excludes labour and transportation charges. i understand different stores will have varying charges... i just wanna enquire whether is this the standard or we can actually negotiate to have it included in the package price...
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Old 25-03-2013, 03:39 AM   #3315
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Electronic Expo @ Expo

Went to check out the smaller resellers (compared to Courts / Best Denki / Gain City / etc) of Air-Conditioners at Electronic Expo @ Expo.

Here are what I can remember from talking to the salesmen there.
Some notes and disclaimers:
- I didn't take down any exact pricings, my purpose was to get a general "feel" for the pricing, and to get a sense of how they differ from Courts or GC
- Pricing seem competitive between most of them, +/- $100 to $200+ of difference here and there
- The biggest differences are the servicing/warranty packages, and their show-exclusive promotions or freebies
- NOTE: Please verify the accuracy yourself, since many of the things are what the sales people tell you. And, I may not remember that well... Cos went fridge and mattress and furniture window shopping after that... Heh too confused

Aircon Designs:
Seems to strongly favor Mitsubishi Electric and their Japanese Brand, Kimura
- Kimura is Japanese, looks pretty energy efficient on paper, and about 20% to 25% cheaper than Mitsubishi Electric

Creation:
Seems pretty Neutral between brands. Prefers Panasonic, Mitsubishi Electric, and MHI (Mitsubishi Heavy Industries)
- Their $100+ to $200 yearly servicing contract (valid from 2nd year onwards, since 1st year already comprehensive warranty) includes 2 times servicing per year, and if anything need replacement and repair, don't need to pay anything*. Its like a servicing + comprehensive warranty contract.
- According to one of their competitors, they outsource all installation and servicing

All Best
Strongly favors Panasonic and Mitsubishi Electric, says negative things about MHI (Mitsubishi Heavy Industries)
- That salesman liked to show their invoices, that written clearly, their warranty covers full parts + labour + transport (they want to sell you that there's no worry about hidden costs)

Air-Con Gallery (Best Tech):
They seem to favor MHI (Mitsubishi Heavy Industries)
- Free Yamato insulation (they say its very good, better than Armaflex)
- About $200 to $300+ for extended 5 year warranty*

*: I don't remember if need to pay anything per incident. But if need, only EITHER labor OR transport. $80.

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