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BlackLabel618 · 15-02-2016, 01:51 PM

guyferic wrote:

I read through the treads and with the new tick system, the 4 ticks in the past is now only 2 ticks and I dont see many ppl talking abt the 5 ticks, most just settle for 2/4 ticks so I dont know if its worth it to get the 5 ticks at abt $500+ difference in pricing.
Aircon is consider expensive item so must ask more qns. sorry for the troublesome.

Latest 5 ticks is not only more expensive, it's compressor is also smaller in output compared to old 2 ticks. After weighing pros n cons, just decided to commit to a sys 4 2 ticks starmex with 18/12/9/9 fcu config, 1/2' insulation and G22 gauge copper pipes at $39xx with GC. Hopefully it's a good deal.

guyferic · 15-02-2016, 03:50 PM

any one using panasonic brands can give some reviews like the functions and is it easy to clean?

CCCustom · 15-02-2016, 06:16 PM

Got a quotation for the 2-tick Starmex System-4 as follows:

28VA compressor
18VA living room
10VA x 3 bedrooms
$3,850 nett, + $150 for 24VA living room.

Alternatively,

38VA compressor
24VA living room
10VA x 3 bedrooms
$4,700 nett.

G22 copper pipe, 16mm drainage pipe (for both cases).

Good, no-good, or quite-standard quote?

They suggested to stick to 18k for living room for my new 4-room BTO ... would y'all agree? My concern is that if I get a 24k for living room I can't use any of the bedroom ones, and although that's fine for us adults, we might want to switch on the unit in our baby's room ... at the very least, long enough for baby to fall asleep soundly.

bingbing · 16-02-2016, 09:39 AM

BlackLabel618 wrote:

Latest 5 ticks is not only more expensive, it's compressor is also smaller in output compared to old 2 ticks. After weighing pros n cons, just decided to commit to a sys 4 2 ticks starmex with 18/12/9/9 fcu config, 1/2' insulation and G22 gauge copper pipes at $39xx with GC. Hopefully it's a good deal.

hihi, so meaning the only 'pro' for the new mitsubishi 5 ticks is the energy efficiency, which is due to its lower compressor output. saw soemwhere in this thread that it is noisier too?

BlackLabel618 · 16-02-2016, 04:41 PM

bingbing wrote:

hihi, so meaning the only 'pro' for the new mitsubishi 5 ticks is the energy efficiency, which is due to its lower compressor output. saw soemwhere in this thread that it is noisier too?

I do not wanna challenge 5 ticks is more 'energy efficient' than 2 ticks but the fact that the 5 ticks is operating at a smaller output somehow takes the shine off the gloss. Had the 5 ticks be churning out the same 28k btu as the 2 ticks, it would have been so much more convincing and psychologically consumers will not have to debate whether it's worth forking out more for a smaller Hp machine if you get my drift.

bingbing · 16-02-2016, 07:24 PM

BlackLabel618 wrote:

I do not wanna challenge 5 ticks is more 'energy efficient' than 2 ticks but the fact that the 5 ticks is operating at a smaller output somehow takes the shine off the gloss. Had the 5 ticks be churning out the same 28k btu as the 2 ticks, it would have been so much more convincing and psychologically consumers will not have to debate whether it's worth forking out more for a smaller Hp machine if you get my drift.

ohoh i was under the impression that the max btu is the same given the model number:

5 ticks - MXY4G28
2 ticks - MXY4A28

oh well guess more research needs to be done then!

BlackLabel618 · 16-02-2016, 09:31 PM

bingbing wrote:

ohoh i was under the impression that the max btu is the same given the model number:

5 ticks - MXY4G28
2 ticks - MXY4A28

oh well guess more research needs to be done then!

From their catalogue, MXY4A28 got total capacity of 7.5kw without current limit and 7.2kw with.
MXY4G28 posted 6.5kw with no elaboration on current limit. Go convert kW to btu and figure.

guyferic · 16-02-2016, 10:38 PM

BlackLabel618 wrote:

I do not wanna challenge 5 ticks is more 'energy efficient' than 2 ticks but the fact that the 5 ticks is operating at a smaller output somehow takes the shine off the gloss. Had the 5 ticks be churning out the same 28k btu as the 2 ticks, it would have been so much more convincing and psychologically consumers will not have to debate whether it's worth forking out more for a smaller Hp machine if you get my drift.

I sense that you are quite an expert in choosing the most value for money/energy saving aircons. Please enlighten a noob like me. I'm looking at SYS 2 multi split.

Starmex MXY-2E20VA(2 ticks) the Capacity BTU/hr is 20472 cooling is 6.0Kw
http://www.coolserve.com.sg/htmdocs/...Y-GE10VA%20%27

Starmex MXY-2G20VA(5 ticks) the Capacity BTU/hr is 21495 cooling is 6.3Kw
http://www.coolserve.com.sg/htmdocs/...s.aspx?id=3243

Is it worth it to get the 5 ticks or the 2 ticks model?
Tks.

BlackLabel618 · 17-02-2016, 01:05 AM

guyferic wrote:

I sense that you are quite an expert in choosing the most value for money/energy saving aircons. Please enlighten a noob like me. I'm looking at SYS 2 multi split.

Starmex MXY-2E20VA(2 ticks) the Capacity BTU/hr is 20472 cooling is 6.0Kw
http://www.coolserve.com.sg/htmdocs/...Y-GE10VA%20%27

Starmex MXY-2G20VA(5 ticks) the Capacity BTU/hr is 21495 cooling is 6.3Kw
http://www.coolserve.com.sg/htmdocs/...s.aspx?id=3243

Is it worth it to get the 5 ticks or the 2 ticks model?
Tks.

Oh no me no expert. Am just as noob. Everything I know is from mit catalogue.
MXY2E20VA max capacity 6.3-6.55kw, nominal 4.8-5kw depending on fcu config with no current limit.

MXY2G20VA max capacity 6.3kw, nominal 4.8kw.

These output ratings are close enough, I would think the 5 ticks one is more worth. My 2 cents.

guyferic · 17-02-2016, 02:15 AM

BlackLabel618 wrote:

Oh no me no expert. Am just as noob. Everything I know is from mit catalogue.
MXY2E20VA max capacity 6.3-6.55kw, nominal 4.8-5kw depending on fcu config with no current limit.

MXY2G20VA max capacity 6.3kw, nominal 4.8kw.

These output ratings are close enough, I would think the 5 ticks one is more worth. My 2 cents.

tks for helping. your 2 cents worth would definitely help me save that xtra cents

Inediblebulk · 17-02-2016, 08:13 AM

CCCustom wrote:

Got a quotation for the 2-tick Starmex System-4 as follows:

28VA compressor
18VA living room
10VA x 3 bedrooms
$3,850 nett, + $150 for 24VA living room.

Alternatively,

38VA compressor
24VA living room
10VA x 3 bedrooms
$4,700 nett.

G22 copper pipe, 16mm drainage pipe (for both cases).

Good, no-good, or quite-standard quote?

They suggested to stick to 18k for living room for my new 4-room BTO ... would y'all agree? My concern is that if I get a 24k for living room I can't use any of the bedroom ones, and although that's fine for us adults, we might want to switch on the unit in our baby's room ... at the very least, long enough for baby to fall asleep soundly.

Im using the same setup with 24VA in 5rm hdb. You can turn on multiple fcu even with living rm fcu on.

Initially it wouldn't be too cold but once the living rm temperature set point is reached, the bedroom fcu will be able to cool fast.

It takes about 1hr for my living rm to cool from 30c to 25c.

bingbing · 17-02-2016, 10:04 AM

BlackLabel618 wrote:

From their catalogue, MXY4A28 got total capacity of 7.5kw without current limit and 7.2kw with.
MXY4G28 posted 6.5kw with no elaboration on current limit. Go convert kW to btu and figure.

ohoh i see thanks for pointing it out! shall go take a look cos the price diff between 2 and 5 ticks isnt small...

guyferic · 17-02-2016, 11:33 AM

One very noob qns. Outdoor unit need a socket to plug in right? If so, the socket is it a must to be at the side of the 20amp power or any other socket also can so long the 20amp is switch on?
after site survey, the person say the outdoor unit can be put outside my room wall since I'm installing a SYS 2 which does not include the master bedroom. But the 20amp power switch is located all the way in the kitchen area. I forgot to ask him this qns because 1st time installing, so everything only comes to mind the day after the site survey.

GBC · 17-02-2016, 03:44 PM

guyferic wrote:

One very noob qns. Outdoor unit need a socket to plug in right? If so, the socket is it a must to be at the side of the 20amp power or any other socket also can so long the 20amp is switch on?
after site survey, the person say the outdoor unit can be put outside my room wall since I'm installing a SYS 2 which does not include the master bedroom. But the 20amp power switch is located all the way in the kitchen area. I forgot to ask him this qns because 1st time installing, so everything only comes to mind the day after the site survey.

Why don't you just ask the person who did the site survey ?