[TigerzBeer]

Artliner15Aug77 wrote:

You dare to climb out to your outdoor unit with safety harness?

Then forget it, haha... I thought it was easy way to just open up the unit indoor...

[TigerzBeer]

cleven wrote:

Thanks! But is Supreme Aircon more for MHI?

Supreme Air can install any brand you want. But being MHI dealer(I guess), he will somehow promote MHI. No force selling, that one must take MHI by him...(If he really force sell, you can play slow by telling him you need time to decide and contact him later lor) then call him to say not interested, hehe...

Your wife and you are right that we consumers are skeptical when come to source for big ticket item like aircon. I was like you last year. My experience was not everyone was so unlucky to have bad encounter when installing aircon. Just ask around your friends or colleague and you can know better...

I also read those forums you mentioned last year till my whole brain flooded and cannot decide. Family members finally ask how come take so long to make up mind as hot weather was coming(June-onward). Luckily got it done by April before the stupid Indo haze came...

[GizmoSeow]

cleven wrote:

Thanks! But is Supreme Aircon more for MHI?

Actually my wife is the one doing most of the research for our hse reno & feeding me with the information. She stopped her work to look after & teach the kids. She's much more detailed than me as her previous job involved scrutinising quotations & vendors, haha... I'm only more actively reading here whereas she has read lots of other forums & blogs, here including, & told me about the reviews about the various companies.

She told me to avoid All Best, Best Tech, suspects to be "related". GC's camp split 1/2 1/2, a grp strongly recommends & another grp strongly advises against it. Aircon Design, which was our last installer & also the one servicing our current aircons, she found the quotation to be exp & since we have been them for yrs for servicing, they didn't even offer us any complimentary servicing, so she's not considering them anymore. The one recommended by our ID isn't that cheap either although it would be easier to coordinate but a whopping $500 difference, so she's not considering them either. Neighbourhood shop like Goh Ah Bee, they outsourced it to Dr Cool, & price wise not that cheap either, 4.1+k but not using the better materials.

She browsed a lot of forums/blogs as she said cannot trust one source for feedback, example like renotalk, those who speak good of the company could be the company self promoting themselves, likewise those who speak ill of a company could be a competitor bad mouthing other companies. She said if a company doesn't bother to do a non obligatory site survey before you make a purchase, then she doesn't bother to consider that company too, cos if pre-sales already yaya papaya, can imagine how post-sales can be...

How about Dr Cool & Dr Cool Asia? Related too...?

[cleven]

TigerzBeer wrote:

I also read those forum you mentioned last year till my whole brain flooded and cannot decide. Family members finally ask how come take so long to make up mind as hot weather was coming(June-onward). Luckily got it done by April before the stupid Indo haze...

Precisely! That's why I mentioned in my earlier post, back then when we installed our 1st aircon in 2000, Internet was still not that common, so cannot check if this brand & installer company were good, so we just went ahead with it. Now, with Internet, actually it made us more difficult to decide, concerns built up as the reading built up.

Ultimately I think still have to base on own assessment, what's good to a person may not be good to another person.

[GizmoSeow]

TigerzBeer wrote:

Supreme Air can install any brand you want. But being MHI dealer(I guess), he will somehow promote MHI. No force selling, that one must take MHI by him...(If he really force sell, you can play slow by telling him you need time to decide and contact him later lor) then call him to say not interested, hehe...

Your wife and you are right that we consumers are skeptical when come to source for big ticket item like aircon. I was like you last year. My experience was not everyone was so unlucky to have bad encounter when installing aircon. Just ask around your friends or colleague and you can know better...

I also read those forums you mentioned last year till my whole brain flooded and cannot decide. Family members finally ask how come take so long to make up mind as hot weather was coming(June-onward). Luckily got it done by April before the stupid Indo haze came...

Btw, what's MHI?

[TigerzBeer]

cleven wrote:

She browsed a lot of forums/blogs as she said cannot trust one source for feedback...

You may want to take note. I also find Starmex and MHI aircon indoor unit "bigger". Other brands are Darkin, Panasonic, EuroAce are smaller in width. But MHI was quiet as I hardly hear any air blowing sound...

Was talking about with a friend on this and he said maybe is the "bigger" propelling unit inside that's why quieter..not sure how true also...

[TigerzBeer]

GizmoSeow wrote:

Btw, what's MHI?

Mitsubishi Heavy Industrial

[cleven]

GizmoSeow wrote:

How about Dr Cool & Dr Cool Asia? Related too...?

Sorry, can't comment on these 2 companies as my wife didn't research on Dr Cool upon hearing the price, which was based on the standard materials.

[cleven]

TigerzBeer wrote:

You may want to take note. I also find Starmex and MHI aircon indoor unit "bigger". Other brands are Darkin, Panasonic, EuroAce are smaller in width. But MHI was quiet as I hardly hear any air blowing sound...

Was talking about with a friend on this and he said maybe is the "bigger" propelling unit inside that's why quieter..not sure how true also...

Thanks. I think it's okay, nothing beats our current McQuay that's coming to 16yrs in terms of size & noise.

[TigerzBeer]

cleven wrote:

Precisely! That's why I mentioned in my earlier post, back then when we installed our 1st aircon in 2000, Internet was still not that common, so cannot check if this brand & installer company were good, so we just went ahead with it. Now, with Internet, actually it made us more difficult to decide, concerns built up as the reading built up.

Ultimately I think still have to base on own assessment, what's good to a person may not be good to another person.

Another concern consumer may encounter was which BTU will be enough to cool the room. Just get the installer to come and access for you. With his exp in installing so many aircon, he should be in better position to help...

My experience last year was to choose a older local aircon supplier that are in this trade will be good. I trust those Malaysian a bit lesser...(No offence, just my personnel preference)

[Kusanagi]

cleven wrote:

Sorry, can't comment on these 2 companies as my wife didn't research on Dr Cool upon hearing the price, which was based on the standard materials.

you may want to get your wife to research on star cool or air connection

i believe they both provide non-obligatory site inspection

got my place inspected by star cool yesterday, waiting for their quotation

[cleven]

Kusanagi wrote:

you may want to get your wife to research on star cool or air connection

i believe they both provide non-obligatory site inspection

got my place inspected by star cool yesterday, waiting for their quotation

Star Cool by Aron & Boon? If yes, well, Boon had already come up to our place & we've already gotten the quotation from Aron.

[Kusanagi]

cleven wrote:

Star Cool by Aron & Boon? If yes, well, Boon had already come up to our place & we've already gotten the quotation from Aron.

nice, how long did you wait to get your quotation?

a dire need to get my aircon up, sweltering heat is no joke

[noinimod]

cleven wrote:

Star Cool by Aron & Boon? If yes, well, Boon had already come up to our place & we've already gotten the quotation from Aron.

Nothing special about their price IMO. If i were to go with an online company without the kind of local, brick&mortar presence that gives it more street credentials, i would expect a lower price.

Personally, i would stay with a more established company that's been around for a longer time.

[cleven]

noinimod wrote:

Nothing special about their price IMO. If i were to go with an online company without the kind of local, brick&mortar presence that gives it more street credentials, i would expect a lower price.

Personally, i would stay with a more established company that's been around for a longer time.

So what would u recommend then?

We wanted to go for more establised company too if possible, like GC. Im fact, I personally went to a GC branch, well not too impressed, basically walked in & out w/out anyone entertaining, that was during off peak. My wife read a lot about GC on online forums & the complaints in recent yrs seem to hv increased, some even commenting that they aren't as gd as in the past.

Like I said cheaper doesn't mean it'll be gd or bad, same goes for expensive, likewise bigger established comp with physical front doesn't nessarily mean it's gd, those with no physical front not necessarily it's bad either.