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Old 26-05-2017, 03:34 PM   #9676
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Hi guys, need some comments on what I've just been quoted...

System 3
01 unit - MXY-3A28VA (30,366BTU)
03 unit - MSY-GE10VA (9000BTU)
Price : $ 2,799 nett

- 1/2 AMAflex class 1 insulation
- 23 SWG copper pipe
- 16MM drain pipe
- Keystone cable


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System 4
01 unit - MXY-4A28VA (30,366BTU)
03 unit - MSY-GE10VA (9000BTU)
01 unit - MSY-GE13VA (12,000BTU)
Price : $ 3,800 nett

- 1/2 AMAflex class 1 insulation
- 23 SWG copper pipe
- 16MM drain pipe
- Keystone cable

Thanks in advance!
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Old 26-05-2017, 03:44 PM   #9677
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maybe referring to the newer 5 ticks model...

the 2 ticks model is very reliable... previously 4 ticks but downgraded to 2 ticks due to new regulation.
Hmm okie. Just don't want to regret this. My very first home. So every big item purchase matters.
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Old 26-05-2017, 04:03 PM   #9678
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Hi guys, need some comments on what I've just been quoted...

System 3
01 unit - MXY-3A28VA (30,366BTU)
03 unit - MSY-GE10VA (9000BTU)
Price : $ 2,799 nett

- 1/2 AMAflex class 1 insulation
- 23 SWG copper pipe
- 16MM drain pipe
- Keystone cable


OR


System 4
01 unit - MXY-4A28VA (30,366BTU)
03 unit - MSY-GE10VA (9000BTU)
01 unit - MSY-GE13VA (12,000BTU)
Price : $ 3,800 nett

- 1/2 AMAflex class 1 insulation
- 23 SWG copper pipe
- 16MM drain pipe
- Keystone cable

Thanks in advance!
For the System 3, IMM one shop A*** selling 2699 nett with similar configurtion.
except AMAflex is class 0 insulation ( class 0 is better than Class 1 ).
go for it if you OK with the workmanship for that shop ( see online forum comment).

Personally, I Just changed the 12 Years old system 3 Fujitsu air-con to the new Mitsubishi system 3 (2 ticks) one and installed yesterday. both are get from that shop.

My 12 years old Air-con never give me problem until last year it need top up gas one time. but recently it shows the sign of the gas no more again, so I reckon there must have leak somewhere in the system. after considering the repair cost, the age of the air-con and old non inverted compressor, I decided to get the new system 3.
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Old 27-05-2017, 03:40 AM   #9679
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Hi guys, need some comments on what I've just been quoted...

System 3
01 unit - MXY-3A28VA (30,366BTU)
03 unit - MSY-GE10VA (9000BTU)
Price : $ 2,799 nett

- 1/2 AMAflex class 1 insulation
- 23 SWG copper pipe
- 16MM drain pipe
- Keystone cable


OR


System 4
01 unit - MXY-4A28VA (30,366BTU)
03 unit - MSY-GE10VA (9000BTU)
01 unit - MSY-GE13VA (12,000BTU)
Price : $ 3,800 nett

- 1/2 AMAflex class 1 insulation
- 23 SWG copper pipe
- 16MM drain pipe
- Keystone cable

Thanks in advance!
22 SWG copper pipe more better

System 3
01 unit - MXY-3A28VA (30,366BTU)
03 unit - MSY-GE10VA (9000BTU)

only $2650

go to facebook find Jex Aircon

https://scontent.fsin2-1.fna.fbcdn.n...31379200_n.jpg
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Old 27-05-2017, 09:53 PM   #9680
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I'm planning to get a new aircon to replace my old aircon. Currently using a non inverter aircon.
There are no leaks for pipes and cables.

If I were to replace with a new inverter setup, can the pipes be reused?

Shortlisted Toshiba and Panasonic system 3. Salesman said Toshiba system 3 compressor is made in Thailand. How true is that?
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Old 28-05-2017, 01:45 AM   #9681
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I'm planning to get a new aircon to replace my old aircon. Currently using a non inverter aircon.
There are no leaks for pipes and cables.

If I were to replace with a new inverter setup, can the pipes be reused?

Shortlisted Toshiba and Panasonic system 3. Salesman said Toshiba system 3 compressor is made in Thailand. How true is that?
Mitsubishi Heavy Industries & Mitsubishi Starmex also made in Thailand

my just install on last thursday system 3 Mitsubishi Heavy Industries (3 Ticks) + free upgrade from 9,000BTU to 12,000BTU
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Old 28-05-2017, 07:22 AM   #9682
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Mitsubishi Heavy Industries & Mitsubishi Starmex also made in Thailand

my just install on last thursday system 3 Mitsubishi Heavy Industries (3 Ticks) + free upgrade from 9,000BTU to 12,000BTU
Which model is that? How much did u pay?
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Old 28-05-2017, 08:45 AM   #9683
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22 SWG copper pipe more better

System 3
01 unit - MXY-3A28VA (30,366BTU)
03 unit - MSY-GE10VA (9000BTU)

only $2650

go to facebook find Jex Aircon

https://scontent.fsin2-1.fna.fbcdn.n...31379200_n.jpg
For the System 3, IMM one shop A*** selling 2699 nett with similar configurtion.
except AMAflex is class 0 insulation ( class 0 is better than Class 1 ).
go for it if you OK with the workmanship for that shop ( see online forum comment).

Personally, I Just changed the 12 Years old system 3 Fujitsu air-con to the new Mitsubishi system 3 (2 ticks) one and installed yesterday. both are get from that shop.

My 12 years old Air-con never give me problem until last year it need top up gas one time. but recently it shows the sign of the gas no more again, so I reckon there must have leak somewhere in the system. after considering the repair cost, the age of the air-con and old non inverted compressor, I decided to get the new system 3.
Which model is that? How much did u pay?
Thanks for the replies guys, but can I ask what's the difference between both the 22/23 SWG copper and Amaflex grade 0/1? Will either one affect the maintenance costs in the long run or the lifespan of the aircon?
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Old 28-05-2017, 10:35 AM   #9684
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Which brand is more reliable? Cos most of us will not like to change aircon every now and then.
So, i think reliability is very important.
Just had Daikin 5-ticks Smile series installed against recommendations from my AC installer and friends ... and has issue since day 1 - condensation appears on the study room unit which i don't turn On overnight and dripping on my laminate floor every morning.

Reported issue to Daikin and their technician came down (and I took leaves) twice but still couldn't resolve the issue till date. Issue was diagnosed to be faulty main motherboard or faulty valve of the brand new outdoor unit but technician seems unfamiliar how to proceed. When I asked further, he explained that his experience in this 5-ticks series is limited as not many people install them. He was even trying to convince me that issue was resolved on the second visit by just doing some self-testings, but I disagreed cos I could already tell from the symptoms. When I insisted he do something, he told me he didn't have the parts again and may need to do welding on my brand new compressor unit to further confirm the issue. Had no choice but to let him go (and wasted my 2 days leaves for nothing). True enough, condensation started 1 hour after he left. So issue still exist to date after 1 week since installation. I'm calling and sending a complaint to Daikin tomorrow!

So reliability is important indeed but after-sales support and technician capability are also very important, which for Daikin case ... well, you judge for yourself.
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Old 28-05-2017, 03:55 PM   #9685
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Toshiba latest model is made in Thailand, previous model is made in Japan.



I'm planning to get a new aircon to replace my old aircon. Currently using a non inverter aircon.
There are no leaks for pipes and cables.

If I were to replace with a new inverter setup, can the pipes be reused?

Shortlisted Toshiba and Panasonic system 3. Salesman said Toshiba system 3 compressor is made in Thailand. How true is that?
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Old 28-05-2017, 03:57 PM   #9686
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SWG 22 is thicker then SWG 23.
Class 0 is better then Class 1.


Thanks for the replies guys, but can I ask what's the difference between both the 22/23 SWG copper and Amaflex grade 0/1? Will either one affect the maintenance costs in the long run or the lifespan of the aircon?
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Which model is that? How much did u pay?
SCM60ZJ-S1 + 3X SRK35ZMA-S 12K BTU $2618
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Old 28-05-2017, 05:56 PM   #9688
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SCM60ZJ-S1 + 3X SRK35ZMA-S 12K BTU $2618
Oh Mitsubishi heavy industries. Ya around this price.
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Toshiba latest model is made in Thailand, previous model is made in Japan.


Yes not sure if it's reliability. Most repairmen I spoke to recommend Mitsubishi Starmex or Daikin. However Starmex is 2 ticks whereas Toshiba is 4. However Toshiba seems like a Low profile brand?
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Old 29-05-2017, 12:42 AM   #9690
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Hi guys...

Have been lurking around this thread but I have been struggling to decide on this quotation by Cold Engine. I just bought a resale flat and am contemplating on which of these 4 systems is the best:

Mitsubishi Starmex system 3 - $2850 (2 ticks)
MXY3A28/MSYGE10 x 3

Daikin inverter system 3 - $2950 (3 ticks)
3MKS71FSG/FTKS25DVMx 3

Mitsubishi New Starmex system 3 - $3400 (5 ticks)
MXY3G28/MSXYFJ10 x 3

Daikin smile series system 3 - $3350 (5 ticks)
MKS80QVMG/CTKS25QVM x 3



Can experts please advise on this?

I don mind paying a bit more for efficiency as I project I will be using the air con quite a bit. But I heard that 5 ticks uses a smaller compressor.

Easy to maintain, quietness and comfortability is key to me. Sometimes I might even off the aircon if the weather is cooling.

On the other hand, there will be one room which will be underutilized. only 2 rooms will be utilized. So what is the better option?

Some say Mitsubishi is better due to spare parts easy to find and install. Some say Daikin more durable. Read until quite sian already.
Drop the starmex 5 ticks, heard of too many issues. You can google for yourself to read.

My ID remind me on more than 1 occasion to avoid 5 ticks because these system are not reliable. You spend so much money on aircon so reliability is the most important. He recommend starmex 2 ticks which is the best in his opinion doing so many renovation so you get the drift. And he ask me to get my own aircon so i got it from cold engine. Good service and workmanship IMO.

I personally boycott Toshiba due to the poor design which result in frequent choking and thus leaking when my house had it. Panasonic is relatively problem free in comparison.

If you guys go to read up on EDMW reno thread, >70% choose starmex 2 ticks, overwhelming favourite.
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