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Old 03-01-2019, 11:48 AM   #931
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The way I look at it is, speaker stands need to be heavy and sturdy and have some type of vibrational isolation in order to be effective. Otherwise, you might as well just buy the cheapest possible ones just to put them at the right height. Good speaker stands that are actually effective at extracting the most out of your speakers are simply more expensive.

Speaker stands, unlike speakers, can be used over and over again and should have longer lifespans than speakers themselves. As such, I tend to view them as an investment, and would be open to spending more on them in relation to the cost of the speakers.
$50 you get something like these ..
Sanus Adjustable Speaker Stands for S$50 https://sg.carousell.com/p/197640850

$120 something like these..
ATACAMA SE 24 Speaker Stands for S$120 https://sg.carousell.com/p/174674053

$200 something like these..
BW Speaker Stands for S$200 https://sg.carousell.com/p/186041280

..I'm not Mike btw.
to add on..

flimsy ones like the Sanus may not be able to support your heavy speakers too. might topple.

The atacama is good but make sure ( if possible) the ear is almost same level as the tweeter.
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Old 03-01-2019, 05:08 PM   #932
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Old 03-01-2019, 09:50 PM   #933
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i've got some qns;

on specs sheet of amps, says 50wpc, this is for aux/cd/receiver OR speakers? if it's for speakers then continue to below.

when speakers recommended wattage (sticker on the back of the speaker), say 50w - 150w, this total OR per speaker, and what will happen if it's below or above the said recommended?

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Old 03-01-2019, 10:29 PM   #934
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i've got some qns;

on specs sheet of amps, says 50wpc, this is for aux/cd/receiver OR speakers? if it's for speakers then continue to below.

when speakers recommended wattage (sticker on the back of the speaker), say 50w - 150w, this total OR per speaker, and what will happen if it's below or above the said recommended?

Nothing will happen just a guideline
Lower amp means not enough oomph so may distort or clip.
Usually 50w more than enough

If you want to be precise calculate speaker dB vs power required.
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Old 03-01-2019, 10:38 PM   #935
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This goes way back to when amplifiers were shyt and lying bast@rds...

What it means is, use an amplifier with a rating of 50W to 150W

Or rather, use an amplifier that says it has 50W to 150W

This is because amplifiers in the past (heck, even now still for some) overstate their maximum output power capability by a lot. So in order to prevent speaker destruction due to underpowered amplifiers, speaker manufacturers provide a recommended amplifier rating.

Note that this rating does not mean the speaker itself is capable of handling that much power. Take this Diamond 210 for example, recommend power is 15W to 75W, however peak SPL is only 90dB. This calculates to only 2.5W - The maximum power it can handle is only 2.5W!

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Old 04-01-2019, 12:46 AM   #936
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Someone should try listen to the PMC twenty5 21 those blew my LS50 to dust in term of bass and midrange is my first PMC had great impression of it from this....is front ported ATL technology no need to worry any reflection coming from the back wall
Try the raidho X-1, front ported as well. You will be surprised by the sound it outputs from such a small footprint.
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Old 04-01-2019, 12:56 AM   #937
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Haha... some are satisfied with just 1 clean watt (using high sensitivity spkr).

Most of pple indoors, HDBs, etc - actually would use below 10 watt.

Yet having higher clean amp provides energy/margin for dynamics at some passage of music sources

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Old 04-01-2019, 01:12 AM   #938
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-Klipsch R15PM -for bass and movies
-Q Acoustics BT3 -for music

I had Bowers and Wilkins MM1 if you are interested can PM me....
bro,thanks.read the reviews for klipsch is good but space constraint is an issue for me as well,have measured that it wont be possible for me to get any speakers higher then 10.5inches ,wonder is there any other recommendation ?any guys over here?
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Old 04-01-2019, 08:51 AM   #939
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thanks for the replies.

then what if the amp is rated at 35w but i use a 50 - 150w recommended speaker? will the amp try to push and then get burnt out?

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thanks for the replies.

then what if the amp is rated at 35w but i use a 50 - 150w recommended speaker? will the amp try to push and then get burnt out?

it will clip first before it get burnt.
usually you get deaf or the mata come to your house( neighbor complain ) before the amp will up lorry
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Old 04-01-2019, 11:17 AM   #941
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Lucky my speaker writes 1000 Watts P.M.P.O.

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Old 04-01-2019, 11:35 AM   #942
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Lucky my speaker writes 1000 Watts P.M.P.O.

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Old 04-01-2019, 11:43 AM   #943
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then what if the amp is rated at 35w but i use a 50 - 150w recommended speaker? will the amp try to push and then get burnt out?

Nothing will happen if you keep the volume low.

And if your amp is truly 35W, at 35W output power your speaker would be producing around 100dB@1m. This is already around the limit of many consumer speakers before the speaker themselves start distorting because the incoming signal is too powerful. Also, 85dB is the safe volume before permanent hearing loss starts to occur.

The problem only comes when you have an amp actually 10W but rate itself 35W, and you try to push 35W into the speaker.
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Try the raidho X-1, front ported as well. You will be surprised by the sound it outputs from such a small footprint.
I know those raidho need a higher power amp to drive those are power hungry my naim atom on desktop might not be efficient to drive them i need to get another power amp which i need to spent another 8k-10k+ to drive them so no point....but surprisingly my another speaker the Dynaudio Special Forty my naim atom are able drive them
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Old 04-01-2019, 08:27 PM   #945
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Haha... some are satisfied with just 1 clean watt (using high sensitivity spkr).

Most of pple indoors, HDBs, etc - actually would use below 10 watt.

Yet having higher clean amp provides energy/margin for dynamics at some passage of music sources
Hope by now: more wld knw above Wattage examples not mean as a joke. I am serious

Also seriously - with regards to Claims from audio industry/audiophile advertisement such as:
- no compromise, perfection audio reproduction, watts number, blablabla.

Are really mean for the casual consumers, reference at best; for serious consumers wld use ears & instrumentation measurements.
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