2.0 & 2.1 speaker discussion thread V [consolidated]

[dreamer_toons]

Any recommendation for 2.0 speakers or soundbar for PC usage? Not into 2.1 due to space constraint.
Use for gaming and movies session.

Sent from Samsung Galaxy Note 8 using GAGT

I used a Harman Kardon SB28 soundbar with the wireless subwoofer (2.1). Has been serving me well for my movies and the occasional music. Recently, I switched to the Sonos beam.

There are few soundbars (2.0) available like the Yamaha Y108 and few others.

 

[austy]

Any recommendation for 2.0 speakers or soundbar for PC usage? Not into 2.1 due to space constraint.
Use for gaming and movies session.

Sent from Samsung Galaxy Note 8 using GAGT

I am using Edifier S3000pro. Really bang for the buck with it sounds and connections. Wireless between the two speakers! Kinda big thou....

 

[kingsen]

Thanks for the prompt response. Prefer to get 2.0 or soundbar due to space constraint though. I'm using 2.1 setup now but decided to downsize. So I will lookout for the following :
- harman kardon sb28
- sonos beam
- yamaha y108
- edifier s3000pro

Any more recommendation is greatly appreciated!

Sent from Samsung Galaxy Note 8 using GAGT

 

[lxXXxl]

can check with you guys? i've been following this site for good digital amps that measures well. those sub $200. can't really find leh.

any tips? Thanks

You're looking for a 'digital' amp with built-in DAC (digital and analog inputs)? Or Class D amp (analog inputs only)?

 

[YouHeypiCanLiao]

You're looking for a 'digital' amp with built-in DAC (digital and analog inputs)? Or Class D amp (analog inputs only)?

the latter. no need DAC as I already have.

 

[lxXXxl]

Thanks for the prompt response. Prefer to get 2.0 or soundbar due to space constraint though. I'm using 2.1 setup now but decided to downsize. So I will lookout for the following :
- harman kardon sb28
- sonos beam
- yamaha y108
- edifier s3000pro

Any more recommendation is greatly appreciated!

Sent from Samsung Galaxy Note 8 using GAGT

What's your current 2.1? Sure you won't miss the bass?

 

[jedi5diah]

hi where did u get ur mr624 from and is there any hiss when the speaker is idling?

lazada

i just tested no hiss

 

[KeYoKe]

Thanks for the prompt response. Prefer to get 2.0 or soundbar due to space constraint though. I'm using 2.1 setup now but decided to downsize. So I will lookout for the following :
- harman kardon sb28
- sonos beam
- yamaha y108
- edifier s3000pro

Any more recommendation is greatly appreciated!

Sent from Samsung Galaxy Note 8 using GAGT

can consider swans m300 too

 

[lxXXxl]

the latter. no need DAC as I already have.

$200, really not much choices if you want new.

Then either, as wwenze previously mentioned:
https://www.audiosciencereview.com/forum/index.php?threads/review-and-measurements-of-topping-tp60-and-fx-audio-fx502spro-amps.5025/

Or the SMSL stuff.

Or if you can embrace second hand, lots of pretty good options on carousell.

Speaking for myself, having owned multiple amps (with the most expensive up to $1k+, peanuts in hifi world ), and a poor hdb dweller, in such spaces, a used 30-40W (4-6ohm) mini hifi amp doesn't perform that much different from the 1k amps. But I do suggest the Japanese branded amps at least. Philips hifi systems I see their rated specs really shake head....

But maybe you have really hard to drive speakers. That could make a difference in your amp selection.

 

[dreamer_toons]

Thanks for the prompt response. Prefer to get 2.0 or soundbar due to space constraint though. I'm using 2.1 setup now but decided to downsize. So I will lookout for the following :
- harman kardon sb28
- sonos beam
- yamaha y108
- edifier s3000pro

Any more recommendation is greatly appreciated!

Sent from Samsung Galaxy Note 8 using GAGT

Not sure if the SB28 is still available; its a pretty old model.

Also that soundbar comes with a wireless subwoofer as a set.

 

[jedi5diah]

can check with you guys? i've been following this site for good digital amps that measures well. those sub $200. can't really find leh.

any tips? Thanks

try smsl ad18

 

[wwenze]

try smsl ad18

 

[wwenze]

Even the Tripath amps back then can produce better measurements.

Muse M20 EX3
"At 6V RMS into 4.7ohm, that would be 7.7 watts."

I also measured Yulong T-Amp before and that was better than the above. Above was 0.04%, Yulong I think was around half that.

Note that datasheet of Tripath says 0.03%, so we're pretty close. (I can accept double, or 6dB, as pretty close.)

Which brings me to the next point... you can probably choose based on the amp chip / amp module. Performance shouldn't be too far off.

 

[YouHeypiCanLiao]

can teaches me some of the charts that you see weather its' good or not?
so this chart you see SINAD rite? but analog amp difficult to get 100ish..
and also noise right? best is 0.01 ?

 

[wwenze]

Frankly at this price range, it is more of "does not suck too much". The limit of audibility is around 0.1% to 0.01% (-60dB to -80dB), so anything below -80dB is fairly safe and anything above -60dB is seriously bad.

SINAD is just the start. But if it can't even get a good SINAD, it is not going to get good results in other tests i.e. multitone IMD and linearity.

SINAD is THD+N %, but expressed in dB format. So it includes noise already. Good brand-name amps should be able to reach 80dB to 90dB for SGD$1000 or less

100dB (0.001%) is the performance of a somewhat decent soundcard so if an amp can reach there it's very impressive. 90dB (0.003%) is pretty good already and can match/better onboard soundcard. The best speaker amp measured so far (Benchmark AHB2) reaches 113dB (0.0002+%)

 

[kingsen]

What's your current 2.1? Sure you won't miss the bass?

Currently using Swan m50w lol

Sent from Samsung Galaxy Note 8 using GAGT

 

[wwenze]

Which brings me to the next point... you can probably choose based on the amp chip / amp module. Performance shouldn't be too far off.

Amir measures at 5W

So that is close enough to chip performance. This is not a very good amp chip to start with.

Let's dig further with the other two amps

TP60 is around 6dB off... which is close enough

FX502SPRO is many dBs off, but it catches up at 10W. Hence the THD+N is limited by noise at lower output levels.

Since if you buy an amp with a poor-performing amp chip, it can never perform better than the amp chip, so a strategy is to buy something that has a good amp chip to start with. I don't expect performance to reach the datasheet, but it should be decently close.

If you can find amps that contain not chips, but the entire module e.g. ICEPOWER, the performance is even more guaranteed.

 

[austy]

I am using Edifier S3000pro. Really bang for the buck with it sounds and connections. Wireless between the two speakers! Kinda big thou....

 

[KeYoKe]

the planar tweeter really spoils the treble though... nt my cup of tea

 

[austy]

this tea I find it ok...

Sent from Asus ASUS_I001DC using GAGT