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Old 15-07-2006, 09:36 PM   #16
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Hi all...I've upgraded my system

Speakers: Martin Login Vantage (mains), Cinema i (center), Mosaic (rears), Depth (sub)

HT source: Denon 3910 DVD player
Stereo source: Ayre C-5xe universal player (CD, SACD, DVD-A)

Both sources are driven by my new Pathos Cinema-X 5.1 channel integrated amp. The Pathos has a tubed preamp stage coupled with a MOSFET solid-state power amp stage. It delivers 110W per 5.1 channel and best of all, it can bridge in 2 channel mode to 450W at 8 ohms! Best of both the HT and 2 channel worlds

I auditioned many 2 channel integrated amps to complement my Denon AVR 3806, but the Pathos beat everything by a wide margin in terms of sound quality, especially coupled with the Martin Logans.

Here are some pix....let me know if you have any questions on the set-up.




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Old 15-07-2006, 09:38 PM   #17
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Here's a closer look at both the Pathos Cinema-X and the Ayre C-5xe:


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Old 16-07-2006, 06:39 PM   #18
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wow.. those speakers are something i want one day..

what's ur projector?
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Old 16-07-2006, 10:22 PM   #19
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wow.. those speakers are something i want one day..
Highly recommended!

what's ur projector?
It's an LCD projector, a Panasonic AE900U. I'm impressed with the clarity and contrast with the unit given it's not considered as high-end.
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Old 16-07-2006, 10:48 PM   #20
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PTjak:

u hv a high end speaker but not a so high end projector, i guess u are more into audio??

for me i am more of a nuts on visual.. so i invester heavier on the projector and less on audio.. currently using a sharp XV-Z10000 with firehawk (i think u using the same?) , while the audio is quite standard, a Yamaha 2500 with JBL northridge series.. so most of the budget went to the projector..
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Old 17-07-2006, 03:33 PM   #21
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u hv a high end speaker but not a so high end projector, i guess u are more into audio?? for me i am more of a nuts on visual.. so i invester heavier on the projector and less on audio.. currently using a sharp XV-Z10000 with firehawk (i think u using the same?) , while the audio is quite standard, a Yamaha 2500 with JBL northridge series.. so most of the budget went to the projector..
Hi TsQ...the Z10000 is a fantastic projector, you must be very pleased with the video performance combined with your firehawk. I was thinking of going the DLP route, but with the AE900 I saw decent blacks for the first time through an LCD projector. I decided to spend less on the projector and more on audio. In that sense I guess I'm more of an audio person than video. I listen to CD's about half the time, but when multichannel sound is also rich and deep with excellent soundstage, I enjoy the experience that much more.

I'm also waiting patiently for high-def video to become more common, at which point my next upgrade will include the projector and DVD player. I'll get a projector that can display 1920x1080 natively to get a pure 1080p signal out to my screen. It will take a while for more high-def (1080) projectors to come to market at decent prices, plus there's the lack high-def media availability right now. In the meantime, the AE900 is more than acceptable
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Old 17-07-2006, 10:19 PM   #22
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AE900 is a good choice..i got it also...btw, ptjak, did u brought filter to improve the black level?
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Old 17-07-2006, 10:45 PM   #23
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AE900 is a good choice..i got it also...btw, ptjak, did u brought filter to improve the black level?
hi gaolow...very nice system you have. I haven't bought a filter since the AE900 is so tweakable. Mine is calibrated just nicely for the room which is light controlled, but not 100% absolute dark. Since your environment looks similar to mine, we should swap settings. I'll post mine soon. What resolution are you running from your DVD player, upscale to 720p to fit the native res of the AE900? I find this setting from my Denon 3910 works best for me.
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Old 18-07-2006, 11:07 AM   #24
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Hi TsQ...the Z10000 is a fantastic projector, you must be very pleased with the video performance combined with your firehawk. I was thinking of going the DLP route, but with the AE900 I saw decent blacks for the first time through an LCD projector. I decided to spend less on the projector and more on audio. In that sense I guess I'm more of an audio person than video. I listen to CD's about half the time, but when multichannel sound is also rich and deep with excellent soundstage, I enjoy the experience that much more.

I'm also waiting patiently for high-def video to become more common, at which point my next upgrade will include the projector and DVD player. I'll get a projector that can display 1920x1080 natively to get a pure 1080p signal out to my screen. It will take a while for more high-def (1080) projectors to come to market at decent prices, plus there's the lack high-def media availability right now. In the meantime, the AE900 is more than acceptable
Got any thought of dumping a stand alone dvd player and go for htpc? I did that months ago and now trying to convert many to do so..haha..

last time spend so much on dvd players.. then after few yrs hv to change to stay with the upgraded format. So with htpc, no problem since optical disc drive are cheaper to upgrade.

also.. the video software with most mid budget gfxcard enable u to tweak video output that stand alone players dont hv. Also.. DVI out from PC to projector is giving me the best, if not comparable result I seen so far..

then ppl tell me about the stability of a proper player giving u better result. but u dont really see a different since everything now is on digital source. a 1 is 1, 0 is 0 ..
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Got any thought of dumping a stand alone dvd player and go for htpc? I did that months ago and now trying to convert many to do so..haha
I can understand the benefits to using a htpc right now for video, but not yet for sound. This is where I'm a bit of a purist With a htpc used as a transport, it could pass a digital signal to a high quality external multichannel DAC/processor to then feed a preamp in a HT system, but the optical drives in htpc's are not as stable as standalone players and are more prone to jitter and other digital errors. Some will say that if the DAC can reclock the signal, interpolate and upsample, then the source doesn't matter. However, I'm yet to hear of a multichannel DAC that is capable of this (without spending a small fortune )

I'm sure that as time carries on, in the digital (and high bandwidth) world the use of standalone players will be totally replaced by digital streaming no doubt via htpc's or something similar. For me it's all about how that digital information gets converted to analog so my ears can enjoy it.
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hi gaolow...very nice system you have. I haven't bought a filter since the AE900 is so tweakable. Mine is calibrated just nicely for the room which is light controlled, but not 100% absolute dark. Since your environment looks similar to mine, we should swap settings. I'll post mine soon. What resolution are you running from your DVD player, upscale to 720p to fit the native res of the AE900? I find this setting from my Denon 3910 works best for me.
i yet to get a 8m HDMI cable..so currently running with the resolution of 480p only
ok i will post my setting too and compre how the black level in each setting.
Shall we agree on which dvd title on which scene to test?
btw, did u use any calibration disc to do the calibration?
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Old 19-07-2006, 05:23 PM   #27
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hi,envy all of u,can spend so much in HT can anyone recommend me a budget projector? maybe around 1.5k? i am new here, so anything to consider when looking for projector? thanks!
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Old 20-07-2006, 10:55 PM   #28
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Hi there

I am curently building my Cinema, for those who would like a little preview of it, please visit the link.
I hope it is ok to link to my cinema, if it is not, please delete the link, and i will post only the pictures when i get home from work.

Nutt's Cinema


its very very beautiful! boy, its a real thorough renovation!
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Old 24-07-2006, 12:46 PM   #29
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i yet to get a 8m HDMI cable..so currently running with the resolution of 480p only
ok i will post my setting too and compre how the black level in each setting.
Shall we agree on which dvd title on which scene to test?
btw, did u use any calibration disc to do the calibration?
Sorry for taking so long to reply. Calibration disc was DVE. Here are my primary AE900 settings:

Picture mode: Natural
Contrast: +1
Brightness: -4
Colour: -1
Tint: 0
Sharpness: -3
Colour Temp: +1
DI: On
NR: On

Given we have the same gain screen, how does this compare to your settings?
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can i know how much u spent in total?

Hi all...I've upgraded my system

Speakers: Martin Login Vantage (mains), Cinema i (center), Mosaic (rears), Depth (sub)

HT source: Denon 3910 DVD player
Stereo source: Ayre C-5xe universal player (CD, SACD, DVD-A)

Both sources are driven by my new Pathos Cinema-X 5.1 channel integrated amp. The Pathos has a tubed preamp stage coupled with a MOSFET solid-state power amp stage. It delivers 110W per 5.1 channel and best of all, it can bridge in 2 channel mode to 450W at 8 ohms! Best of both the HT and 2 channel worlds

I auditioned many 2 channel integrated amps to complement my Denon AVR 3806, but the Pathos beat everything by a wide margin in terms of sound quality, especially coupled with the Martin Logans.
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