[Iceman88]

Nakedtoes wrote:

Any bro also order cheap n good non powered antenna for the tv tuner? Can recommend good one thx

Can consider making a simple DIY fractal antenna that works really well in my own experience. Just 10 mins or less, most materials already have around the house: A4 paper, clear plastic sheet (I recycled from front cover of old report with binding), kitchen aluminium foil, glue stick, 2 small screws like those used in PC DIY.

The 75-300 ohm balun transformer is the only item that may not possibly be readily available: can get one for $5 from 2nd floor audio/mic shop at Sim Lim Tower (maybe even cheaper from other shops). You can Google the image to show the shop owners. I also saw a cheap $3.20 dipole antenna at Sheng Siong (maybe even cheaper at neighbourhood stores) that you can dismantle to use the balun transformer. Better if still got old antenna lying around to be salvaged without spending a cent!

I was very skeptical that such a simple non-powered antenna, that costs zero to a few dollars to make, can have decent performance. But wow, it picked up all the local DVB-T2 and DVB-T channels with signal intensity 80+ to 99% and signal quality about 98%; video & audio both very smooth (as good or better than from Starhub cable point) even for HD channels like HD5 & HD8. Only thing is I have to place mine right next to window (I think my area not indoor reception-ready yet). If antenna cable not long enough, can join up shorter cables using adapters ($2-3 at hardware stores) without having to buy a new long cable.

No harm trying this super cheap yet good method. I also tried another DIY method using CD case and binder clips, it could receive signals but choppy video for HD channels. Have fun!

[Nakedtoes]

Iceman88 wrote:

Can consider making a simple DIY fractal antenna that works really well in my own experience. Just 10 mins or less, most materials already have around the house: A4 paper, clear plastic sheet (I recycled from front cover of old report with binding), kitchen aluminium foil, glue stick, 2 small screws like those used in PC DIY.

The 75-300 ohm balun transformer is the only item that may not possibly be readily available: can get one for $5 from 2nd floor audio/mic shop at Sim Lim Tower (maybe even cheaper from other shops). You can Google the image to show the shop owners. I also saw a cheap $3.20 dipole antenna at Sheng Siong (maybe even cheaper at neighbourhood stores) that you can dismantle to use the balun transformer. Better if still got old antenna lying around to be salvaged without spending a cent!

I was very skeptical that such a simple non-powered antenna, that costs zero to a few dollars to make, can have decent performance. But wow, it picked up all the local DVB-T2 and DVB-T channels with signal intensity 80+ to 99% and signal quality about 98%; video & audio both very smooth (as good or better than from Starhub cable point) even for HD channels like HD5 & HD8. Only thing is I have to place mine right next to window (I think my area not indoor reception-ready yet). If antenna cable not long enough, can join up shorter cables using adapters ($2-3 at hardware stores) without having to buy a new long cable.

No harm trying this super cheap yet good method. I also tried another DIY method using CD case and binder clips, it could receive signals but choppy video for HD channels. Have fun!

Hey thanks going to try it when I free.. Cheers

[Nakedtoes]

Thanks iceman .. i almost done up my fractal antenna and looking for balun RCA connect..

searching around my store room i found one copper wire type of antenna wanna cut out the plug to join to my antenna but i think why not try out the antenna.. Plug it to the digital tuner all channels 100% signal strength.... wasted my effort on the handicraft...

[Nakedtoes]

Check with u guys.. Is channel u in HD? The channel is 522mhz right

[b00mxer]

Nakedtoes wrote:

Check with u guys.. Is channel u in HD? The channel is 522mhz right

Only 5, 8, Suria and Vas is in HD. okto, U and CNA will go HD by 2016.

[Nakedtoes]

Thx for replying...

[Iceman88]

Nakedtoes wrote:

searching around my store room i found one copper wire type of antenna wanna cut out the plug to join to my antenna but i think why not try out the antenna.. Plug it to the digital tuner all channels 100% signal strength.... wasted my effort on the handicraft...

I read that copper wire is best when making DIY antenna and sometimes one's location is good enough that even a piece of bare copper wire does the trick! Which makes you realise how much the antenna manufacturers are ripping consumers off with claims about the performance of their expensive "HD" or "fully digital" antennas. Even if the customer gives priority to aesthetics and wants a beautiful antenna, it's only a paperweight if can't perform at all! Problem only if your family is the kind to nag about ugly equipment and messy wiring

Nah, don't think u wasted your effort as your design looks really cool and can be a conversation piece for your visitors! Some people on internet even make DIY antennas to sell. Making stuff with your hands is also good stress relief!

[chakuman]

StarHub channel 981 has moved to channel 155, which means now HD5 on Starhub has the subtitles option.

[b00mxer]

chakuman wrote:

StarHub channel 981 has moved to channel 155, which means now HD5 on Starhub has the subtitles option.

Really? So it's now receiving from DVB-T2 signal and not DVB-T? Any frequency changes to non starbub box users?

[Kiwi8]

b00mxer wrote:

Really? So it's now receiving from DVB-T2 signal and not DVB-T? Any frequency changes to non starbub box users?

No, the DVB-T2 signal is still broadcasting in the air. What chakuman is referring to, is the DVB-C signal carried by the StarHub TV point.

[Nakedtoes]

Using my copper wire antenna can recieve more chanel. All the digital SD channel. 2 x HD 5.

[b00mxer]

Kiwi8 wrote:

No, the DVB-T2 signal is still broadcasting in the air. What chakuman is referring to, is the DVB-C signal carried by the StarHub TV point.

Ya I know. Previously 155 is receiving via DVB-T signal (explains why the hard coded subtitles). I understand 116 (Suria HD) 154 (8 HD) and 156 (Vas HD) is receiving via DVB-T2 that's why we can toggle the subtitles. Previously 981 is Ch 5 HD DVB-T2 signal. As mentioned 981 is now on 155 so all FTA channels on DVB-C is now running from DVB-T2 signals. Sorry if I'm confusing.

Edit: just checked. No frequency changes. Though we ought to know that all our FTA HD channels on DVB-C is receiving from T2 signals now.

[Qubicfactor]

b00mxer wrote:

Ya I know. Previously 155 is receiving via DVB-T signal (explains why the hard coded subtitles). I understand 116 (Suria HD) 154 (8 HD) and 156 (Vas HD) is receiving via DVB-T2 that's why we can toggle the subtitles. Previously 981 is Ch 5 HD DVB-T2 signal. As mentioned 981 is now on 155 so all FTA channels on DVB-C is now running from DVB-T2 signals. Sorry if I'm confusing.

Edit: just checked. No frequency changes. Though we ought to know that all our FTA HD channels on DVB-C is receiving from T2 signals now.

I know what you are trying to say, but it still sounds like you don't

It doesn't run on DVB-T2 signals, it runs off the same broadcasting feed as the DVB-T2 channels.

[Kiwi8]

b00mxer wrote:

Ya I know. Previously 155 is receiving via DVB-T signal (explains why the hard coded subtitles). I understand 116 (Suria HD) 154 (8 HD) and 156 (Vas HD) is receiving via DVB-T2 that's why we can toggle the subtitles. Previously 981 is Ch 5 HD DVB-T2 signal. As mentioned 981 is now on 155 so all FTA channels on DVB-C is now running from DVB-T2 signals. Sorry if I'm confusing.

Edit: just checked. No frequency changes. Though we ought to know that all our FTA HD channels on DVB-C is receiving from T2 signals now.

No.... technically the master source is just a digital source, whether be it HD or SD. Then this source is modulated either to DVB-T2 or DVB-C as appropriate for the air and cable respectively. U should not be looking at it as DVB-C converted from DVB-T2 or vice versa.

[chakuman]

Thanks Kiwi8 for clarifying, lol