dvb-t/c and also digital tuner. I tried using to digital tuner but to no avail. mine is a samsung ua46es6200.

Thanks. Guess have to press MediaCorp or MDA for the info as owners, such as those in landed proerties and private condos, who use their own antennae would welcome the details to know if modifcations are required.

If you are talking about tuning to dvb-t2, then you need a dvb-t2 tuner.

I don't think there is any tv set with dvb-t2 tuner in sg at this moment. I am sure the makers would advertise big big when the time comes.

thanks for the info.

When you're watching under Ch 29, there is a scrolling text telling you to tune into Ch 38.

Old: Ch 29 (now left with black screen liao)
New: Ch 38

HD5, Ch5, Ch8 and CNA.

Got, check this out.

=D

i just realised i can view the freq setting by changing the channels grouping~
the previous dvb-t2 trial was on 602Mhz~ it was the same freq as the previous TVmobile~

if existing pte ppties owners already able to recv FTA digital channels, i dun think they need special antenna~

I reckon the existing antennas will still be applicable since the modulation into analog signals (to send over the air) will still be the same... ie a DVB-T2 signal @ 610Mhz can be received by an antenna that can receive a DVB-T signal @ 610Mhz. It's just the receiver that needs to support DVB-T2 in order to decode the DVB-T2 signals. :o

Chan 37! This was what a tv maintenance contractor told me, but I didn't believe him then.


There are specialised matv systems which cater solely for the channels to be received (read post #1 http://forums.hardwarezone.com.sg/ho...614256-18.html). They will not be able to receive new channels not catered for.

These type of systems ars expensive and are only economically feasible when they serve large number of units, as in the case of hdb or private condo. Landed property owners are not expected to install this kind of system.

On the other hand, there are plenty of bungalows worth $10M or $20M in Singapore. I won't rule out the possibility of such owners installing these specialised systems.

Thanks for helping, but you misunderstood me.

New signals means dvb-t2 signals to be transmitted from end of the year, not existing dvb-t signals.

Everything is in flux now, it is better to wait until the dust settles nearer the end of 2013.

look for this logo (that's if you can find it anyway)
http://www.mda.gov.sg/Public/Digital...es/Digital.jpg

http://www.mda.gov.sg/Public/Digital.../DigitalSS.jpg

Digital Broadcasting Roadmap

Am noob to all these, hope can get some layman guidance.

Was intending to install 2 additional cable points to the 2 bedrooms SOON, as the old folks are shifting in and they need to watch free channels.

If I read correctly here, cable point would be incapable to view free-to-air channels in time to come, unless I have a starhub set top box?

I also read abt antennas and dvb t, how would the sequence of transmission be like? antenna receives signal and transmit to dvb t then to TV hdmi port? Confused...

Also, what would happen to starhub paid TV? I would think starhub paid TV would still be running on cable point in the foreseeable future?

MDA should upgrade all HDB to receive DVB-T2 on the rooftop antenna. imagine 21 century still have 19th century antenna.

Seems like still quite a number of gung-ho supporters for our local mediacrap content. The only good thing is that they don't charge tv license fees for that junk anymore :D

:s12::s12::s12::s12::s12::s12::s12::s12:

@Kiwi8

Thanks for sharing.

Implications: all current tv sets with dvb-t tuners and dvb-t set-top box/card will be useless for the new platform.

Either buy the new dvb-t2 set-top box/card or change to a new tv with dvb-t2 tuner to continue watching digital channels.

Means those current dm boxes can't be used anymore?

I actually wanted to comment, why I got black for signals on 538Mhz from time to time... technical guide explained that clearly that it's from 7pm to 11pm only. Anyway it's going to end on 23 April 2013, after which the only DVB-T channels receivable will be the ones on 610Mhz.

DVB-T2 receivers e.g Humax Fox Pro T2 is quite expensive about 150pounds.
The DVB-T2 tuners are called freeview receivers at UK.

I doubt DVB-T2 will take off in singapore the receivers are
very expensive. Humax DVB-T2 are based on Broadcom chipsets,
though a new single all in one chipset with integrated tuner is available recently.
40nm BCM3461 19Mar12

probably a nation wide set top box is being planned
at $60-$100 see media corp faq point 9

Ok having read the discussion on frequency and antennas, here's my take,
perhaps the broadcast signal is too weak or perhaps the tolerance for attenuation is tighter on the DVB-T2 spec which means some antennas do not not cut it when it comes to amplification.

For analog if the signal is weak, you just get increasing noise and static. For digital if the signal is weak to a certain point, as good as no signal.

But technically it should be able to receive the transmission...

When technology is new. It is always expensive.
Just like early day of LCD TV!

there are many ebay sellers, selling much cheaper that tat~ S$60 can get liao~ :s22:

to correct, the technology is not new, UK was using it back in 2010 it may be new to sg

those ebay $60 dollar dvb-t2 receivers have funny problems
hdmi output do not work, OSD in russian, no firmware updates
available, Standard definition supported only, HD not supported
though it says HD support,

the branded DVB-T2 recivers such as humax fox pro t2 have many features,
a) have two/three tuners which allows PVR recording of 1/2 other channels
whilst one is being watched with connection to USB harddrive,
b) 100Mbit/s/ ethernet port allows samba/cifs file sharing able to play direct
from other network user
c) wireless 802.11 capability through an additional wireless dongle on USB
d) optical digital output

something like a media player, like australian astone media players with dvb-t
receivers

The sg technical specification for dvb-t2 Integrated Receiver Decorder has been revised (Mar 2013) - details available from link provided by moderator in post #3 of this thread.

Part of the changes involves:
To satisfy the requirement of the revised spec, we probably need chips newer than the BCM3461 which was officially announced on 19 Mar 2012.


If MediaCorp choose to implement this feature for power efficiency and other purposes to scrambling of L1 data, perhaps current dvb-t2 decoder may not work.

The following gives an idea of how soon equipment with certification to local standard (as shown in the logos above) will be available :
Buyers obtaining such decoders from online sources such as ebay may have to be prepared for disappointment.

Both local available signal and design of tv antennae, plus other factors, do play their parts in the tv reception. But any antenna capable of receiving analogue tv will work just as well for dvb-t or dvb-t2 receiving transmission in the same channel.

Talking about tv antennae, there are Band I and III (VHF) and Band IV and V (UHF), each type designed to work their best in the designated bands. But there are some that do not work as claimed (as usual as in other products). I once had a Japanese made Band III antenna which did not give me chan 12 reception. On checking I realised Japan was on the ntsc system. Their chan 12 frequency band is about the same as our pal chan 11. That explained why it could not receive our local chan 12.

Edit: One more thing. Analogue tv needs minimum 60dB signal strength and shadow free signal. Digital tv only needs 48dB and the signal need not be so clean as the digital format has built in feature to eliminate ghost. Overall digital tv is more tolerant of signal qualities.

Ok... I have been googling around and still can't find an answer... Hope can find here...

You see, I bought a new SMART TV last Friday, and I forgot 1 important factor I should look out for - FULL HD.

I bought a Toshiba 32PX200E for $488 at the Audio House (they were having their 32nd Anniversary Sale, and since sg is going digital, forcing us to buy digital tvs, and I am doing a major makeover for my room, so I grabbed the chance to buy a new tv)

But after googling, i realized that my tv is HD Ready, not a full HD. And my brother helped test my tv, nothing that unlike the tv in his room, mine cannot switch to HD Channel (though he consoled me by saying that at least my screen display is better than his on analog channel)

Googling taught be only the diferences between both tvs, but never really tell me whether can HD Ready tv watch HD Channels. Some results say that HD Ready TVs can watch HD, just that they will be adjusted to the resolution the tv screen is capable of.

And hearing my brother comment that I cannot watch HD channel on my tv, I am becoming skeptical.

So does this mean my tv cannot watch tv channels when Singapore becomes full digital? Do I have to fork out another few hundred just to buy the DV Setup Box thingee in order to watch Digital signalled channels on this TV?

Sorry ah been living in CRT age for decades cos I poor... So yeah... 1st time being an LED tv owner... +_+

@eeLsinneD

What I found from the Toshiba website about your tv set is that it has no digital tuner! That's the reason why you are unable to tune to the digital channels, even if your wall socket or own antenna has the digital signal.

Not to worry as you can buy the new set top box to watch digital tv, in the coming new format - dvb-t2 when they are available. At least you didn't waste money on the present dvb-t tuner which would be obsolete come end of the year when the new dvb-t2 format takes over.

"Full HD" or "HD ready" are just part of tv set's native resolution. It has nothing to do with the tv programme's hd format. Any digital tv programme broadcast in full hd will still be displayed on your 1366 x 768 screen, when you have the necessary tuner.

Thanks alot!
So all I'll have to do is buy myself a digital tuner, huh?

By the way does the tuner work on CRT tvs? If not will have to spend money get a new tv for the living room... =/

eeLsinneD

You should browse through the stickies. It is very beneficial for newbies like you to Hi Def

Yes, provided your wall plate has the digital signal or own antenna can receive the digital channels. The precise channels still not revealed.


Yes, but you have to watch out for the connections between the two. Most likely there will be hdmi output from the tuner, but you crt don't have hdmi terminal. As for composite/componet output, have to wait and see when the product is available.

Thanks alot~!
I appreciate your informative replies and the fact you went through the trouble to google about my TV model. =)

You are most welcome. I understand the difficulties one faces when trying to google for unfamiliar info when even the search term is not certain. Nonetheless, you have included sufficient details in your query for a quick advice.

Audio house is always a no no place to shop.

I am using Samsung Sync Master 2333HD to watch TV in my room, the Monitor has a DTV function but it always show no signal. Do I need a tuner?

u need a good antenna and but must depend whether the signal ish strong at ur place de....

What kinda antenna do I need, I am now plugging in the antenna at the wall socket.

The info is in this thread.
Read through it please.
Cheers

Those of u who are tuning to DVB-T signals, wanna ask u something.

Did MediaCorp change the location of the transmitters recently?

I ask this, cos recently I had to relocate my DIY directional antenna to another sweet spot as the previous location suddenly failed to be the sweet spot. :o

Yes it did. I cannot scan channels and had to switch position

Thanks for confirming. :o

I was wondering why my HD5 recordings failed, so in the end it was due to no signal. :o

Luckily I had parallel recording from CH5. :o

It is still at Bukit Batok Hill. UHF Ch 38.

It can be at the same premises but either the power of the transmitter was changed, or the location of the transmitter was changed, albeit slightly within the same premises.

This can make a big difference to the signal travel patterns.

Product Listing of DVB-T2 Receivers
 

Panasonic 13 tv models - stereo sound only;
Draco Set top box - stereo sound;

LG - 15 tv models - surround sound, no product info;
Samsung - 9 tv models - surround sound;
Sony - 13 tv models - surround sound.

Some Sony models were approved as early as in Apr 2013.

Source: DTV Label Mark

DVB -T2 Signal Coverage Concern
 

"...4 Given the massive scale of this nation-wide project, we will be progressively rolling out the digital broadcasting infrastructure. In other words, when MediaCorp begins its digital broadcast in December this year, some Singaporeans will be able to enjoy the benefits of Digital TV, while others may have to wait until full island coverage is completed. Further details will be announced by MediaCorp and the Media Development Authority (MDA) later this year..."

Full text: MCI's response to PQ on digital television

any place which sell the dvb-t2 usb dongle?

if dont have dvb receiver
we just hoot mio and hubstation will do right haha


too bad mio no NHK i want NHK

Can order online.

Recently bought a DVB-T2 receiver box from ebay, scan and got a list of channels:

001 NDP
002 Beautiful Singapore
003 Taiji
004 CNN (scrambled)
005 BBC World (scrambled)
:
:
009 HBO (scrambled)
010 Fox Movies (scrambled)
:
:
018 Discovery Channel (scrambled)
:
:

Only the first 3 channels above are viewable but they are just looping and replaying the same clip. Where are the usual channel 5,8,news Asia, etc?

I am able to get the usual channels using an older USB PCTV stick on DVB-T.

Does it mean that the DVB-T2 box I bought is working properly? Need to wait till December 2013 to get those usually channels?

Thank you for any insights and pardon if the question is flawed.
Just want to know if that the DVB-T2 (seems to be made for Russia) is something I can use in future...?