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Old 17-01-2020, 01:08 PM   #271
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As mentioned earlier, in fact just 1 month ago, Giant was selling the 55P8M for $599 only... Take note, 55" M.

Now, the 50" S is going for $699 at Giant...
There are some confusions about P8S vs P8M. For Australia models seems P8M is higher end.
https://en.tab-tv.com/?p=17987

Not so sure about Singapore. The following reports say that P8S is of higher end than P8M in Philippines.
https://www.iconicmnl.com/tcl-2019-p.../#.XiFAoLcRXN4
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Old 17-01-2020, 01:41 PM   #272
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Not so sure about Singapore. The following reports say that P8S is of higher end than P8M in Philippines.
https://www.iconicmnl.com/tcl-2019-p.../#.XiFAoLcRXN4
No leh. It only claims P8S as high end, no mention of P8M. Who knows, P8M is the higher end...
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Old 17-01-2020, 02:33 PM   #273
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The following reports say that P8S is of higher end than P8M in Philippines.
https://www.iconicmnl.com/tcl-2019-p.../#.XiFAoLcRXN4
No leh. It only claims P8S as high end, no mention of P8M. Who knows, P8M is the higher end...
Haha. Let the readers here to decide.
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The P8 TV Series comprises three models: P8, P8M, and P8S. These models come with the latest Android TV OS 9.0 and supports Google Assistant, the user-friendly built-in virtual assistant that can connect with modern devices for the best smart home experience. They also have 4K Ultra High Definition screen resolution, HDR 10 support, built-in Chromecast capability, Micro Dimming function, and Dolby Audio integration.

The high-end model P8S further sports Wide Color Gamut that enhances color reproduction, with up to 90% NTSC color accuracy and HDR10+ that provides dynamic contrast for better picture quality. The P8S also exclusively sports a full-screen design, delivering a more immersive experience to those watching it.
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Old 17-01-2020, 02:46 PM   #274
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BTW, the AOCs sold in NTUC look pretty good to me. Not running Android TV OS though. Netflix certified.

S$589 for 50 inch (until 30 Jan)
S$689 for 55 inch (until 29 Feb)
S$889 for 65 inch (until 29 Feb)

Seen in NTUC xTra Jurong Point. Promotion price.
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Old 18-01-2020, 08:59 AM   #275
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Hi guys, I'm considering this model. Anyone has any experience with it? Getting it less than 1k.

Aiwa D18 Series 65 inch 4K UHD LED Smart Android TV JU65DS180S |
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Hi guys, I'm considering this model. Anyone has any experience with it? Getting it less than 1k.

Aiwa D18 Series 65 inch 4K UHD LED Smart Android TV JU65DS180S |
https://aiwa.co/pages/about-us
https://www.int-aiwa.com/about.html
http://aiwa.group/m/about.asp

Better stick to known brand. This new Aiwa has nothing related to the old Aiwa, just bought the Aiwa brand, get TVs from an ODM (said to be a joint venture, who knows), stick the Aiwa brand, and then sell.

No meaningful review for the TV either from Google.
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Old 18-01-2020, 01:57 PM   #277
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Do I need a 4K Tv if most of my contents are 1080p?
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Old 18-01-2020, 03:04 PM   #278
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Do I need a 4K Tv if most of my contents are 1080p?
I'm in the same boat as you. Currently using a 3 years old Hisense 55" FHD, but its days are numbered, and looking to change. Almost everything I consume are in 1080p, and looking for a 55" or 65" FHD tv but it seems quite impossible to find already.

Will be happy to know if someone can point out where to get one.
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Old 18-01-2020, 03:25 PM   #279
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I'm in the same boat as you. Currently using a 3 years old Hisense 55" FHD, but its days are numbered, and looking to change. Almost everything I consume are in 1080p, and looking for a 55" or 65" FHD tv but it seems quite impossible to find already.

Will be happy to know if someone can point out where to get one.
Why the need to get 55inch FHD now that 55inch 4K is cheap enough?

You do not need to get 4K TV if your contents are 1080p, but if the price of the 4k version is low enough, why not get the 4k version? This is especially true that there are no decent 55inch TV which is still 1080p.

On the other hand, if you are getting 40inch TV (or even 49inch), then it makes sense to go with 1080p since it is perfectly fine to go with 1080p for 40inch TV and there are still plenty of choices for 1080p 40-49 inch TVs, for example, TCL S6500 series Android TV (32 inch, 40 inch, 43inch and 49inch) or the D3000 series dumb TV.
https://www.tcl.com/sg/en/products.allproduct.html
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Old 18-01-2020, 03:45 PM   #280
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Price is a big consideration, every $100 saved is another $100 I can spend somewhere


But yes I agree that the 4K prices has dropped so much that almost every brand has a affordable model. One of my concern about using 1080p content on 4K is upscaling. I do not own any 4K tv and I've not tested anything myself but read that upscaling can make the picture looks very bad, especially close-up (2-3m) away. There are reviews that says the picture quality are better on native 1080p panels than upscaled 4K panels.

Will be helpful if you can share your experience.
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Price is a big consideration, every $100 saved is another $100 I can spend somewhere


But yes I agree that the 4K prices has dropped so much that almost every brand has a affordable model. One of my concern about using 1080p content on 4K is upscaling. I do not own any 4K tv and I've not tested anything myself but read that upscaling can make the picture looks very bad, especially close-up (2-3m) away. There are reviews that says the picture quality are better on native 1080p panels than upscaled 4K panels.

Will be helpful if you can share your experience.
At such a large distance, to appreciate 4k content, you will need a 75" TV and larger.
I don't think the upscaling chip in the TCL will be really put to the test. Instead the screen quality will be the deciding factor.
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Price is a big consideration, every $100 saved is another $100 I can spend somewhere


But yes I agree that the 4K prices has dropped so much that almost every brand has a affordable model. One of my concern about using 1080p content on 4K is upscaling. I do not own any 4K tv and I've not tested anything myself but read that upscaling can make the picture looks very bad, especially close-up (2-3m) away. There are reviews that says the picture quality are better on native 1080p panels than upscaled 4K panels.

Will be helpful if you can share your experience.
I myself use cheap 1080p 40inch dumb TVs.

But then I've compared 65 inch 4K TCL TV (2018 model, which I recommended to my relative to buy in Dec 2018 during my short trip to China, after comparing a few models in the shop) vs 47 inch 1080p LG 47GB651 TV (bought in 2016) at my China relative's places during my short trip in December 2019. With both consuming 1080p contents, I do not see any issues with the 4K TCL TV, at similar distance of about 2m away. Both are equally good, at least to my eyes.

I forgot the model of the TCL though. Edit: it is 2018 65T6 China model, roughly S$900 at that time. Now as low as S$700 in China.
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At such a large distance, to appreciate 4k content, you will need a 75" TV and larger.
I don't think the upscaling chip in the TCL will be really put to the test. Instead the screen quality will be the deciding factor.
Bro, not sure if you're being sarcastic , but is 2-3m very large distance? My room quite big, and my sofa is almost 5m from the TV. In any case, I'm not considering 75"due to price diff. Cheers!

I myself use cheap 1080p 40inch dumb TVs.

But then I've compared 65 inch 4K TCL TV (2018 model, which I recommended to my relative after comparing a few models in the shop) vs 47 inch 1080p LG 47GB651 TV (bought in 2016) at my China relative's places during my short trip in December 2019. With both consuming 1080p contents, I do not see any issues with the 4K TCL TV, at similar distance of about 2m away. Both are equally good, at least to my eyes.

I forgot the model of the TCL though. Edit: it is 2018 65T6 China model, roughly S$900 at that time. Now as low as S$700 in China.
Thanks for the reply, guess I'll go down to the shops and do some testings when I'm ready to commit.
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Bro, not sure if you're being sarcastic , but is 2-3m very large distance? My room quite big, and my sofa is almost 5m from the TV. In any case, I'm not considering 75"due to price diff. Cheers!



Thanks for the reply, guess I'll go down to the shops and do some testings when I'm ready to commit.
Take a look at the viewing distance thread for an idea of what is the recommendation for 3m if you don’t believe me..
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Bro, not sure if you're being sarcastic , but is 2-3m very large distance? My room quite big, and my sofa is almost 5m from the TV. In any case, I'm not considering 75"due to price diff. Cheers!


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if you are not joking and it is 5m, then you need at least 120" in order to notice 4k.

in other words, if less than 120", you can't tell the difference between 4k and 1080p, if the viewing distance is 5m
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