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Old 20-03-2018, 12:04 PM   #31
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Old 20-03-2018, 12:36 PM   #32
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Thank you Xonix, Maylyn for your advise.

I was trying to setup Lyra Trio over my ethernet backhaul. My last LED status when I posted was:
1st node : Cyan
2nd node : Cyan
3rd node : Green

So, last night, I tried to reset all nodes to factory setting and re-configure again using the same steps mentioned in Q2:
****------------------****
Q2 : What is the correct method for setting up the second and third device? What I have done are as follows:
- Connect 1st device's WAN port to a router. Use the App to setup. This is easy
- Connect 2nd device's WAN port to the LAN port of the 1st device. Power ON and use the App to add the 2nd device
- Connect 3rd device's WAN Port to the LAN port of the 2nd device. Power ON and use the App to add the 3rd device
- After finished, I connect each of the device to the LAN port in each room
****------------------****

This time, I get all Cyan. I believe the nodes are now connected via wifi backhaul. From the Lyra App, I can see the lines between main node and the other 2 nodes are yellow lines, instead of green lines..
I am now getting slightly less then 100mbps on all nodes...

I am getting more and more confused....

I chat with Asus online line and even escalated to the backend team.. Yet to get any good solution from them...

I search the website the entire evening and could not find any clear setup procedure to configure Lyra Trio over ethernet backhaul...

Thinking of asking for a refund or change to another router AiMesh or Lyra Home
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Old 20-03-2018, 01:57 PM   #33
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Thank you Xonix, Maylyn for your advise.

I was trying to setup Lyra Trio over my ethernet backhaul. My last LED status when I posted was:
1st node : Cyan
2nd node : Cyan
3rd node : Green

So, last night, I tried to reset all nodes to factory setting and re-configure again using the same steps mentioned in Q2:
****------------------****
Q2 : What is the correct method for setting up the second and third device? What I have done are as follows:
- Connect 1st device's WAN port to a router. Use the App to setup. This is easy
- Connect 2nd device's WAN port to the LAN port of the 1st device. Power ON and use the App to add the 2nd device
- Connect 3rd device's WAN Port to the LAN port of the 2nd device. Power ON and use the App to add the 3rd device
- After finished, I connect each of the device to the LAN port in each room
****------------------****

This time, I get all Cyan. I believe the nodes are now connected via wifi backhaul. From the Lyra App, I can see the lines between main node and the other 2 nodes are yellow lines, instead of green lines..
I am not getting slightly less then 100mbps on all nodes...

I am getting more and more confused....

I chat with Asus online line and even escalated to the backend team.. Yet to get any good solution from them...

I search the website the entire evening and could not find any clear setup procedure to configure Lyra Trio over ethernet backhaul...

Thinking of asking for a refund or change to another router Lyra Home
FAQ ~> https://www.asus.com/sg/support/FAQ/1034951

The ASUS FAQ has specifically stated that one needs to set up 3 Lyra/Lyra Trio setup first on wireless (all solid blue light) before moving to Ethernet Backhaul setup.

And the second and third Lyra/Lyra Trio must be in solid green light.

Give it this setting up method a try and feedback in here accordingly.

Recheck your LAN ports/cables to see is they are in good order too.

Your network map on the ASUS Lyra App should be a full 3 green lines connectivity on all nodes and shouldn't be 2 green lines/yellow/red etc.

We have tested internally and bench using 9x ASUS Lyra all together on Ethernet Backhaul with all full 3 green lines connectivity with 59 WiFi devices connected to it.



ASUS official recommendation is 5x Lyra/5x ASUS Trio per network setup.
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Old 20-03-2018, 02:13 PM   #34
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Thanks Maylyn,

Wow, your result showing all green lines looks impressive..

Anyway, I would like to confirm as follows:

First, I need to setup all the 3 Lyra Trio using wireless using Lyra App. Do we need to wait for Solid Blue or Solid Cyan? From my past few days experience, I could only see Blinking Blue.

After setting up wirelessly, then i will move on to Ethernet Backhaul setup using this https://www.asus.com/sg/support/FAQ/1034951
Do I need to use Lyra App to configure anything at this stage?
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Old 20-03-2018, 02:16 PM   #35
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Is it possible to add the ASUS Lyra Trio to one's existing ASUS Lyra network?

Yes, it's possible to add the ASUS Lyra Trio to one's existing ASUS Lyra network whether on wireless or Ethernet backhaul.

One needs to make sure all the ASUS Lyra's and ASUS Lyra Trio's firmware are up to date. (latest firmware)

But it doesn't work in other way around.
ASUS Lyra Trio (main) ~> ASUS Lyra, or ASUS Lyra Trio (main) ~> ASUS Lyra Trio ~> ASUS Lyra etc.





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Old 20-03-2018, 02:21 PM   #36
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Thanks Maylyn,

Wow, your result showing all green lines looks impressive..

Anyway, I would like to confirm as follows:

First, I need to setup all the 3 Lyra Trio using wireless using Lyra App. Do we need to wait for Solid Blue or Solid Cyan? From my past few days experience, I could only see Blinking Blue.

After setting up wirelessly, then i will move on to Ethernet Backhaul setup using this https://www.asus.com/sg/support/FAQ/1034951
Do I need to use Lyra App to configure anything at this stage?
Light Cyan to be specific, there isn't solid blue.

Just connect from the main node ~> second node ~> third node with the Ethernet cable. Make sure the second and third node LED is solid green colour.
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Old 20-03-2018, 02:38 PM   #37
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Light Cyan to be specific, there isn't solid blue.

Just connect from the main node ~> second node ~> third node with the Ethernet cable. Make sure the second and third node LED is solid green colour.
Roger that.. I will give it another tonight... Thank you!
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Old 20-03-2018, 11:56 PM   #38
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Hi Maylyn,

I have tried the re-configure again. But still no good...

Below is what i have done step by step..

1 Reset all 3 nodes to Factory setting
2 Connect node #1 to (WAN -> Router)
3 Power on and wait for White LED
4 Use Lyra App to configure it
5 Power On node #2 (without connection) and wait for White LED
6 Use Lyra App to add node #2, LED becomes Solid Cyan
7 Power On node #3 (without connection) and wait for White LED
8 Use Lyra App to add node #3, LED becomes Solid Cyan
9 Power off node #2 and node 3
10 Connect external LAN cable as follows:
- Router->Switch-> node #1 (WAN)
- node #1 (LAN) -> node #2(WAN)
- node #2 (LAN) -> node #3 (WAN)
11 Power ON node#2 and node#3 and wait for all node#2 and node#3 turns Green LED

Lyra App shows Green line connection between node#1 to node#2 and node#3
*****So Far So Good*****

12 Power Off node #2 and node #3 and disconnect from external LAN cable
13 Connect node#2 and node#3 to ethernet backhaul (LAN point at Living Room and Bed Room)
- Router->Switch->Node#1(WAN)
->Switch->Node#2(WAN)
->Switch->Node#3(WAN)
14 Power ON node#2 and node#3
- node#2 turns solid green
- node#3 turns solid Cyan
15 Try to reset power to node#3.
- node#2 turns solid Cyan
- node#3 turns solid Green
16 Try to reset power to node#2 again
- node#2 turns solid Green
- node#3 turns solid Cyan

No matter how, I was unable to get node#2 and node#3 to be green at the same time
*** Result for is No good


I try to connect a LAN cable from node#1 (LAN) back to the Switch
- Router->Switch->node#1(WAN)
->Switch->node#1(LAN)
->Switch->node#2(WAN)
->Switch->node#3(WAN)
Managed to get node#1 to Cyan and node#2, node#3 to Green

But the internet connection when i go near node#2 and node#3 is unstable.
Sometime good, Sometime it weak and slow, Sometimes no connection...


I am giving up... Can I bring it down to Asus service center to check or setup for me?
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Old 21-03-2018, 10:47 AM   #39
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Below are the diagrammatic explanation of my setup procedures.. Please help to see what is wrong....

1. Setup 3 nodes using wireless backhaul at one location


2. Setup 3 nodes using ethernet backhaul also at one location


3. Deploy each node to actual location connect to LAN port at each room


Results:
Connection near node#1 is good.
But the internet connection when i go near node#2 and node#3 is unstable.
Sometime good, Sometime it weak and slow, Sometimes no connection...
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Below are the diagrammatic explanation of my setup procedures.. Please help to see what is wrong....

1. Setup 3 nodes using wireless backhaul at one location


2. Setup 3 nodes using ethernet backhaul also at one location


3. Deploy each node to actual location connect to LAN port at each room


Results:
Connection near node#1 is good.
But the internet connection when i go near node#2 and node#3 is unstable.
Sometime good, Sometime it weak and slow, Sometimes no connection...
Fixed images for you.
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Fixed images for you.
Thank you..
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Below are the diagrammatic explanation of my setup procedures.. Please help to see what is wrong....

1. Setup 3 nodes using wireless backhaul at one location


2. Setup 3 nodes using ethernet backhaul also at one location


3. Deploy each node to actual location connect to LAN port at each room


Results:
Connection near node#1 is good.
But the internet connection when i go near node#2 and node#3 is unstable.
Sometime good, Sometime it weak and slow, Sometimes no connection...
Just a guess but isn't the Asus Lyra a standalone device and putting the router behind it will cause a double NAT ?
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Old 21-03-2018, 12:33 PM   #43
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Just a guess but isn't the Asus Lyra a standalone device and putting the router behind it will cause a double NAT ?
My main router is located at the yard where the Fibre point terminates. I disable the wifi on the main router and basically use it as a router function.

Since all my rooms are connected to the main router via cat-6 cable all around my house, and Lyra-Trio supports ethernet backhaul, I thought it should give me best possible wifi connection in every room. This also what the Sales person claimed to be during IT show.

So whether it will cause any problem with my topology, I really need some expects in HWZ forum or Asus technical person to advice...
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My main router is located at the yard where the Fibre point terminates. I disable the wifi on the main router and basically use it as a router function.

Since all my rooms are connected to the main router via cat-6 cable all around my house, and Lyra-Trio supports ethernet backhaul, I thought it should give me best possible wifi connection in every room. This also what the Sales person claimed to be during IT show.

So whether it will cause any problem with my topology, I really need some expects in HWZ forum or Asus technical person to advice...
The Asus Lyra is already a router by itself. Maybe replace the router with a Lyra so your setup will be like ONT>Lyra>switch>2 other Lyra's and other wired devices
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My main router is located at the yard where the Fibre point terminates. I disable the wifi on the main router and basically use it as a router function.

Since all my rooms are connected to the main router via cat-6 cable all around my house, and Lyra-Trio supports ethernet backhaul, I thought it should give me best possible wifi connection in every room. This also what the Sales person claimed to be during IT show.

So whether it will cause any problem with my topology, I really need some expects in HWZ forum or Asus technical person to advice...
you need to change the first Lyra to AP mode else it will build another NAT.
https://www.asus.com/sg/support/FAQ/1034950/
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