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destiny88 · 16-10-2020, 01:23 PM

ya...sigh... maybe just wait for ISP to come out with plans that is actually 2.5g 1st

Henry Ng · 16-10-2020, 06:44 PM

xiaofan wrote:

For new houses, indeed it is good to go for CAT6 cabling to be future proof.

For those who use existing CAT5e network cabling, and for those who mainly use laptops, 2.5Gbe network is still much cheaper than 10Gbe. Only problem is lack of the 2.5Gbe enabled switch and router choices. Hopefully next year we will see more such product now that PC motherboards start to offer 2.5Gbe support.

As for ISPs, looks like no chance to get real 2Gbps plan any time soon. Still it is okay to use 1Gbps as the uplink.

Why so many home users so concern about getting more bandwidth? Please share. Thanks.

Henry Ng · 16-10-2020, 06:47 PM

destiny88 wrote:

ya...sigh... maybe just wait for ISP to come out with plans that is actually 2.5g 1st

Even ISP came out 2.5 Gbps plan, also no 2.5 Gbps hardware. If use 10GbE hardware will be expensive. Actually for home use, 1Gbps is still ok.

xiaofan · 16-10-2020, 07:26 PM

Henry Ng wrote:

Why so many home users so concern about getting more bandwidth? Please share. Thanks.

To be future proof.

Anyway, gigabit home network is still okay.

But WiFi 6 now can be faster than 1 Gbps, PC motherboards start to have 2.5Gbps port, and NAS too. So 1Gbps LAN ports start to be the bottleneck.

There is a possibility that 2.5Gbps may get popular within next two to three years.

As for 10Gbps home network, it is not any time soon.

Henry Ng · 16-10-2020, 07:58 PM

xiaofan wrote:

To be future proof.

Anyway, gigabit home network is still okay.

But WiFi 6 now can be faster than 1 Gbps, PC motherboards start to have 2.5Gbps port, and NAS too. So 1Gbps LAN ports start to be the bottleneck.

There is a possibility that 2.5Gbps may get popular within next two to three years.

As for 10Gbps home network, it is not any time soon.

Honestly even if ISP have 2.5 Gbps plan and there is 2.5 Gbps hardware available, i do not think most home users will take 2.5 Gbps plan as most people will not need so much bandwidth and having more bandwidth not necessarily faster speed. For me i do not think i will consider 2.5 Gbps even if ISP offer it as 1 Gbps will be cheaper to use. Also do not need it as 25 Mbps already can watch Netflix in 4k.

xiaofan · 16-10-2020, 08:17 PM

Henry Ng wrote:

Honestly even if ISP have 2.5 Gbps plan and there is 2.5 Gbps hardware available, i do not think most home users will take 2.5 Gbps plan as most people will not need so much bandwidth and having more bandwidth not necessarily faster speed. For me i do not think i will consider 2.5 Gbps even if ISP offer it as 1 Gbps will be cheaper to use. Also do not need it as 25 Mbps already can watch Netflix in 4k.

There is a difference between LAN (home network) and WAN (Internet) here.

You can use 500Mbps internet yet have 10Gbps or 2.5Gbps home network, to have faster communication between desktops, laptops and NAS.

For example if you take high resolution 4k videos on the phone, then edit on the desktop/laptop and then archive in the home NAS, then the WAN speed does not matter but LAN speed matters.

Then when you want to upload to YouTube, WAN speed starts to matter.

Henry Ng · 16-10-2020, 08:32 PM

xiaofan wrote:

There is a difference between LAN (home network) and WAN (Internet) here.

You can use 500Mbps internet yet have 10Gbps or 2.5Gbps home network, to have faster communication between desktops, laptops and NAS.

For example if you take high resolution 4k videos on the phone, then edit on the desktop/laptop and then archive in the home NAS, then the WAN speed does not matter but LAN speed matters.

Then when you want to upload to YouTube, WAN speed starts to matter.

Correct.
I see.

alauz · 04-11-2020, 07:00 PM

Henry Ng wrote:

Correct.
I see.

Actually I wired my BTO back in 2016 with Cat 6 cabling in anticipation of 10gbps networking only to kena stuck at 1gbps. But I am planning on going 2.5g and upgrade internet to 2 * 1g speed. Using Asus RU86 / Netgear RAX120/200 you can aggregate to 2g & connect the 2.5g wan/lan port over to 2.5g qnap switch I found on Amazon.sg around $169.

Basically give 2g wired internet speeds across my existing cat 6 infra. But need like $669 to execute.

felali · 18-11-2020, 12:03 AM

I've placed my order for the QNAP QSW-1105-5T, which will be in stock next week!

https://www.amazon.com/QNAP-QSW-1105...dp/B08F9ZL9LY/

Price:
~SGD$178 from Amazon.sg, inclusive of ~$15 shipping
~SGD$150 from Amazon, ship to U.S. address

Home fibre is still 1gbps, but at least I'll get a 2.5gbe between my rig and my unRaid setup

xiaofan · 18-11-2020, 11:41 AM

felali wrote:

I've placed my order for the QNAP QSW-1105-5T, which will be in stock next week!

https://www.amazon.com/QNAP-QSW-1105...dp/B08F9ZL9LY/

Price:
~SGD$178 from Amazon.sg, inclusive of ~$15 shipping
~SGD$150 from Amazon, ship to U.S. address

Home fibre is still 1gbps, but at least I'll get a 2.5gbe between my rig and my unRaid setup

Nice. Please send the first hand experience once you receive it. Thanks.

I am waiting for my Mac Mini M1 to arrive to see if it works with the Ugreen Type C 2.5Gbpe adapter. Right now I only have plans to link the Windows 10 laptop (working with Ugreen USB Type A and Type C 2.5Gbe adapter). No need a switch in this case.

I have not decided to get a better NAS with 2.5Gbe support yet. So I am sitting in the fence of getting the 2.5Gbe switch.

My WD MyCloud 3TB personal NAS is under used as the photo backup function is limited. I am relying on free Google Photos for photo backup. But then Google just announced that down the road Google Photos will not be free. I have not decided to pay for Google Photos 2TB plan or getting a better NAS.

moron+genius · 01-12-2020, 12:14 PM

finally got my 2.5Gbps network up and running. I have a Qnap QSW-1105 in study and a Zyxel XGS-1210 in DB closet, both laptop and NAS are using Ugreen USB C 2.5Gbps ethernet adapters. So setup as such:
Laptop/TV/Shield -> QNAP -> Zyxel -> Router/NAS

So my issue is the speed... uploading to NAS gets 2.3Gbps which is great but downloading from NAS gets only ~1.2Gbps, i get ~800Mbps before this upgrading. Seems like there's something wrong with my laptop (LG 15Z96)??

xiaofan · 01-12-2020, 03:49 PM

moron+genius wrote:

finally got my 2.5Gbps network up and running. I have a Qnap QSW-1105 in study and a Zyxel XGS-1210 in DB closet, both laptop and NAS are using Ugreen USB C 2.5Gbps ethernet adapters. So setup as such:
Laptop/TV/Shield -> QNAP -> Zyxel -> Router/NAS

So my issue is the speed... uploading to NAS gets 2.3Gbps which is great but downloading from NAS gets only ~1.2Gbps, i get ~800Mbps before this upgrading. Seems like there's something wrong with my laptop (LG 15Z96)??

Nice updates.

The LG15Z96 indeed could be a limiting factor as it is a 2016 laptop.

You can try benchmarking your laptop SSD performance to see if that is fast enough.

yusoffb01 · 01-12-2020, 04:00 PM

moron+genius wrote:

finally got my 2.5Gbps network up and running. I have a Qnap QSW-1105 in study and a Zyxel XGS-1210 in DB closet, both laptop and NAS are using Ugreen USB C 2.5Gbps ethernet adapters. So setup as such:
Laptop/TV/Shield -> QNAP -> Zyxel -> Router/NAS

So my issue is the speed... uploading to NAS gets 2.3Gbps which is great but downloading from NAS gets only ~1.2Gbps, i get ~800Mbps before this upgrading. Seems like there's something wrong with my laptop (LG 15Z96)??

are you only user? maybe got other services running?