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Old 30-06-2020, 12:00 AM   #1771
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Hi all,

Totally no knowledge about ethernet hence i need some help from all the experts here for my new house. Correct me if I'm wrong but after reading some of the post in this thread, the sequence for connection in the DB box is as such:

TP -> ONT -> Router -> Respective ports for the rooms. The ethernet cables which i should be looking to get are CAT6 and above.

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1. For rooms, would things such as wifi mesh or Google Nest Wifi works?
2. When router is placed in DB box, it should affect the WIFI in the living room area somehow or rather right? What should the setup for my living room/ dinning area/ kitchen be?

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1. For your rooms, you can do a mesh (with wired backhaul), wireless router (in ap mode) or pure wireless access points.

2. Yes, the wireless router would be weaker if it is in the db box. You can disable the wireless function of that router or get a pure router (without wireless functionality). In recent BTOs, there should be 1-2 more points in the living room and 1 more point in the storeroom. You can use them for additional wireless router/mesh with wired backhaul/wireless access points
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Old 30-06-2020, 09:39 AM   #1772
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1. For your rooms, you can do a mesh (with wired backhaul), wireless router (in ap mode) or pure wireless access points.

2. Yes, the wireless router would be weaker if it is in the db box. You can disable the wireless function of that router or get a pure router (without wireless functionality). In recent BTOs, there should be 1-2 more points in the living room and 1 more point in the storeroom. You can use them for additional wireless router/mesh with wired backhaul/wireless access points
Thanks for your response!

1. Any recommendation for Mesh? Was looking at Singtel (AirTies 4930) and MR (Google Nest WiFi or Deco M9 Plus WiFi Mesh).

2. Instead of a pure router, am i able to instead place a switch in the DB box so that i can place the provided router in living room for coverage?

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Old 30-06-2020, 12:52 PM   #1773
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Thanks for your response!

1. Any recommendation for Mesh? Was looking at Singtel (AirTies 4930) and MR (Google Nest WiFi or Deco M9 Plus WiFi Mesh).

2. Instead of a pure router, am i able to instead place a switch in the DB box so that i can place the provided router in living room for coverage?

Thanks!
1. if you are going to use lan cable to link them all, there shouldn't too much difference between the models. they are just reduced to an AP. if not using wired backhaul, get model with tri-band, so nest and airties are out.

2. you can put a switch in db and the provided router in living room, however, you need to lay 2 cables between db and living room. one cable to link ont and router, the other cable to link router back to switch in db.
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Old 30-06-2020, 02:09 PM   #1774
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Thanks for your response!

1. Any recommendation for Mesh? Was looking at Singtel (AirTies 4930) and MR (Google Nest WiFi or Deco M9 Plus WiFi Mesh).

2. Instead of a pure router, am i able to instead place a switch in the DB box so that i can place the provided router in living room for coverage?

Thanks!
First, are you on SingTel? If so, are you issued an ONT or ONR?
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Old 30-06-2020, 04:36 PM   #1775
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the router at DB keep it to 192.168.1.1, make sure DHCP address range starts from 192.168.1.51 or higher

room 3 change to 192.168.1.2, and also turn off DHCP. Use the yellow port on the router to connect to the wall, do not use blue port.

you still have one spare lan port at the DB, and 3 spare LAN port at room 3.
Ahh I will definitely do this on the rare occasion when my entire family isnt home

I would like to understand the process a little more to educate myself. Dont mind if I ask a few questions.

1. May I know why turning off the DHCP for the router in room 3 where wifi is being used is important? Are we using the DHCP from the DB cabinet? (Is this how it works? )

2. Why is changing the DHCP range for the router in the DB important.

3. the reason to change the IP address for the router is to prevent the 2 routers from "clashing" right?

Thank you very much
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1. if you are going to use lan cable to link them all, there shouldn't too much difference between the models. they are just reduced to an AP. if not using wired backhaul, get model with tri-band, so nest and airties are out.

2. you can put a switch in db and the provided router in living room, however, you need to lay 2 cables between db and living room. one cable to link ont and router, the other cable to link router back to switch in db.
What model would you recommend if I'm not using wired backhaul? Im just looking to ensure that all my room will have proper coverage i think Arties have backhaul but Nest no

First, are you on SingTel? If so, are you issued an ONT or ONR?
It's my new house, so currently no ISP yet.
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Hi all, after some intense reading of this thread kindly advice if the way i plan to setup my Wi-Fi is ideal and will have little/ no dead spot in the house.

And its possible to buy a cheap router from others via carousell that was provided by their ISP and place it in the DB box to act as a switch right? If not placing the Google Nest Wi-Fi Router in DB box seems wasted...
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Old 01-07-2020, 07:20 AM   #1778
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Ahh I will definitely do this on the rare occasion when my entire family isnt home

I would like to understand the process a little more to educate myself. Dont mind if I ask a few questions.

1. May I know why turning off the DHCP for the router in room 3 where wifi is being used is important? Are we using the DHCP from the DB cabinet? (Is this how it works? )

2. Why is changing the DHCP range for the router in the DB important.

3. the reason to change the IP address for the router is to prevent the 2 routers from "clashing" right?

Thank you very much
1. should not have more than 1 dhcp server in one network, all devices will be given ip address from the router in db.

2. to make sure that the router doesn't assign your AP's ip address to another device. If you have other devices which you want to assign static ip yourself, just given the number outside the dhcp address range.

3. yes.
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Seriously, the nightmare of having to deal with 2 DHCPs is frankly understated. Do not do it, it's not fun when you got problems on the network.
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Hi all, after some intense reading of this thread kindly advice if the way i plan to setup my Wi-Fi is ideal and will have little/ no dead spot in the house.

And its possible to buy a cheap router from others via carousell that was provided by their ISP and place it in the DB box to act as a switch right? If not placing the Google Nest Wi-Fi Router in DB box seems wasted...
If you have not purchase your google mesh.

1. Get a asus router that support AI MESH. And hook up another Asus AI mesh router in Room 2. Than you have 1 wireless network and 2 AP covering the whole house. This you can manage your router and wireless all under Asus UI.


2. If you already have a google mesh. You can try install google mesh in the DB BOX and see how the wifi speed and coverage before getting normal router to place in db box.

If coverage is good than no need to get another router. The google mesh in db box might give network wifi coverage to living Room, Bedroom 3 & kitchen. Node 2 will cover the rest of the house (MBR)
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Seriously, the nightmare of having to deal with 2 DHCPs is frankly understated. Do not do it, it's not fun when you got problems on the network.
Yes! Not good to have so many dhcp running in a small network.
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If you have not purchase your google mesh.

1. Get a asus router that support AI MESH. And hook up another Asus AI mesh router in Room 2. Than you have 1 wireless network and 2 AP covering the whole house. This you can manage your router and wireless all under Asus UI.


2. If you already have a google mesh. You can try install google mesh in the DB BOX and see how the wifi speed and coverage before getting normal router to place in db box.

If coverage is good than no need to get another router. The google mesh in db box might give network wifi coverage to living Room, Bedroom 3 & kitchen. Node 2 will cover the rest of the house (MBR)
May i know which Asus Model i should be looking for? And how much is 1
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Hi all, after some intense reading of this thread kindly advice if the way i plan to setup my Wi-Fi is ideal and will have little/ no dead spot in the house.

And its possible to buy a cheap router from others via carousell that was provided by their ISP and place it in the DB box to act as a switch right? If not placing the Google Nest Wi-Fi Router in DB box seems wasted...
Having read https://support.google.com/wifi/answer/6240987?hl=en-SG

Im assuming you are NOT running Google Nest in Bridge mode? If thats the case you will also be having double NAT
E.g Internet in (WAN IP) -> router in DB Box LAN 1 (192.168.1.x) -> Google Nest LAN 2 (192.168.2.x)
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Having read https://support.google.com/wifi/answer/6240987?hl=en-SG

Im assuming you are NOT running Google Nest in Bridge mode? If thats the case you will also be having double NAT
E.g Internet in (WAN IP) -> router in DB Box LAN 1 (192.168.1.x) -> Google Nest LAN 2 (192.168.2.x)
google doesn't recommend the use of any routers , google wants the nest to be connected to modem/ont.

google nest also doesn't support wired backhaual, has only 2 bands.
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May i know which Asus Model i should be looking for? And how much is 1


01. A list of model is below
https://www.asus.com/Networking/Wi-Fi-System-Products/

02. You can consider this twin set
https://shopee.sg/ASUS-RT-AC86U-(-Pa...495.3149750394


BTW what your current router and fiber provide?
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