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Old 30-06-2020, 08:33 PM   #1
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Resale Flat - How To Improve Internet Connection?

Hi Shifu,

I need your guidance to improve the Wifi network setup for my house.
Anything I can do to improve it?

Current Condition:
  • Staying at resale 4room HDB flat (8 years old flat) which unable to have the luxury to convert telephone port to Lan Port as only applicable for newer HDB flat.
  • Internet under M1 1 Gbps plan
  • Using Asus Lyra (3 pcs) for Mesh via wireless backhaul
  • Bedroom 3 is my study room and my computer is connecting to Asus Lyra via LAN
  • I use my laptop to connect internet using Asus Lyra 1 via LAN, I can get around download speed 700 - 900 Mbps.

Current Problem:
Connection via wifi to iPhone Xs / iPhone 11 Pro
  • Max speed 150 Mbps in the living room & Bed Room 3
  • Max speed 30-40 Mbps in Bedroom 2 and Main Bedroom (sometimes will Request Time Out)
  • Max speed less than 5 Mbps in Bath Room 1
  • No Wifi connection in service yard and Kitchen (enclosed)
Computer Connection via Lan to Asus Lyra 2, I am only able to get 200 Mbps

I tried to move the Asus Lyra 3 to Main bedroom, however, it didn't work as it can't connect via wireless to Asus Lyra 2.

Below is my Floor plan and location of Asus Lyra for your reference.

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Old 30-06-2020, 10:24 PM   #2
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Hi Shifu,

I need your guidance to improve the Wifi network setup for my house.
Anything I can do to improve it?

Current Condition:
  • Staying at resale 4room HDB flat (8 years old flat) which unable to have the luxury to convert telephone port to Lan Port as only applicable for newer HDB flat.
  • Internet under M1 1 Gbps plan
  • Using Asus Lyra (3 pcs) for Mesh via wireless backhaul
  • Bedroom 3 is my study room and my computer is connecting to Asus Lyra via LAN
  • I use my laptop to connect internet using Asus Lyra 1 via LAN, I can get around download speed 700 - 900 Mbps.

Current Problem:
Connection via wifi to iPhone Xs / iPhone 11 Pro
  • Max speed 150 Mbps in the living room & Bed Room 3
  • Max speed 30-40 Mbps in Bedroom 2 and Main Bedroom (sometimes will Request Time Out)
  • Max speed less than 5 Mbps in Bath Room 1
  • No Wifi connection in service yard and Kitchen (enclosed)
Computer Connection via Lan to Asus Lyra 2, I am only able to get 200 Mbps

I tried to move the Asus Lyra 3 to Main bedroom, however, it didn't work as it can't connect via wireless to Asus Lyra 2.

Below is my Floor plan and location of Asus Lyra for your reference.

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Ultimately the best "sure work" method is still have someone run ethernet cables to the individual rooms.

Another way I can see is if you DIY run ethernet as per attached(red line), line runs on the ceiling and if possible mount 1x node on the wall/ceiling at the green box
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Old 30-06-2020, 10:27 PM   #3
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Take a photo of the phone port back wires, I think 8 years old flat should be cat6 or 5e ready Liao. With cables backhaul it is much better.

I run 2 units mesh and full wifi bar within my 4 rm hdb

I will position 1 mesh near the hallway to test
I.e BR3 mesh to MBR, BR2 mesh to hallway
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Old 30-06-2020, 11:34 PM   #4
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Ultimately the best "sure work" method is still have someone run ethernet cables to the individual rooms.

Another way I can see is if you DIY run ethernet as per attached(red line), line runs on the ceiling and if possible mount 1x node on the wall/ceiling at the green box

Fully agree with that. I am thinking who can help to do that as i have no knowledge for DIY.
And also thinking if i should upgrade to Ubiquiti AP.

Take a photo of the phone port back wires, I think 8 years old flat should be cat6 or 5e ready Liao. With cables backhaul it is much better.

I run 2 units mesh and full wifi bar within my 4 rm hdb

I will position 1 mesh near the hallway to test
I.e BR3 mesh to MBR, BR2 mesh to hallway
I am still figuring out how to open the phone port.





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Old 01-07-2020, 12:18 AM   #5
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I know an electrician who can helped as he helped wiring cat6 Lan cables to all my bedrooms. My floor plan quite similar to yours. PM me if you keen.
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Fully agree with that. I am thinking who can help to do that as i have no knowledge for DIY.
And also thinking if i should upgrade to Ubiquiti AP.



I am still figuring out how to open the phone port.





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1. If you can install a Ubiquiti AP along the walkway of Bedroom 1/2 and mbr. You should get wifi coverage around your house. Kitchen maybe a little weak but still can go online.
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Hi all,

This is the photo of telephone port on Bedroom 3 (Study room)
Does it look promising 😂😂?

Is this cable can be use for conversion?




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Old 01-07-2020, 11:10 AM   #8
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I know an electrician who can helped as he helped wiring cat6 Lan cables to all my bedrooms. My floor plan quite similar to yours. PM me if you keen.
PMed you. Thank you

1. If you can install a Ubiquiti AP along the walkway of Bedroom 1/2 and mbr. You should get wifi coverage around your house. Kitchen maybe a little weak but still can go online.
Yeah, i want to upgrade but i would like to know more about costing too
I need my finance director to approve it.


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Hmm just my 2cents

If you want maximum control over security and performance = UDM pro

if you want less headache and more flexi = UDM

but re-routing the cables comes first, as UDM and UDM pro both in the market in shopee and what not.

And you still can reuse the old routers to be placed as intrim for further hard to reach corners

just my 2cents [ am using UDM, hence why i say flexi as it comes with its own "wifi inbuilt and other " ] the all in one jack-knife
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Hmm just my 2cents
If you want maximum control over security and performance = UDM pro
if you want less headache and more flexi = UDM
but re-routing the cables comes first, as UDM and UDM pro both in the market in shopee and what not.
And you still can reuse the old routers to be placed as intrim for further hard to reach corners
just my 2cents [ am using UDM, hence why i say flexi as it comes with its own "wifi inbuilt and other " ] the all in one jack-knife


If convenient, can you share the setup?
What is the speed that you get from UDM if connect via Wifi?
Is there anyone help to setup (inclusive of cabling for you) any lobang?

I am very interested in UDM + AP Pro / Nano. But I am newbie have little knowledge of networking.

UDM Pro might a bit overkill for me now.

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Old 01-07-2020, 02:56 PM   #11
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From your photo, it is a Lan Cable.

Do also look at your DB box cabling,

Convert telephone port to Lan Port and using wired backhaul will be cheapest option, as you can continue to use your existing devices. (Google is your best friend)

Unless cannot convert to lan port, it is not worth to spend unnecessary money during these period.

My 2 cents.
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Hi all,

This is the photo of telephone port on Bedroom 3 (Study room)
Does it look promising 😂😂?

Is this cable can be use for conversion?




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Seems like a normal telephone cable to me. Able to do conversion, but i would suggest running actual Ethernet cabling, as your house layout is one of the simpler layout. Should not cost more than $100 if you do it yourself(Assuming 3x port location(1in, 2out-1 in ea room) and cat6 cabling + trucking)

I did mine for around $250 for 8x port location and TE cat6 cable(Total length approx 50m).
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Hi all,

This is the photo of telephone port on Bedroom 3 (Study room)
Does it look promising 😂😂?

Is this cable can be use for conversion?




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yes looks like can be converted. the wiring for my home is similar
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Since you are confidence with your DIY.

Do share the breakdown of items/tools (with picture) needed with individual cost. So that it can benefit everyone.

Seems like a normal telephone cable to me. Able to do conversion, but i would suggest running actual Ethernet cabling, as your house layout is one of the simpler layout. Should not cost more than $100 if you do it yourself(Assuming 3x port location(1in, 2out-1 in ea room) and cat6 cabling + trucking)

I did mine for around $250 for 8x port location and TE cat6 cable(Total length approx 50m).
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Hi all,

This is the photo of telephone port on Bedroom 3 (Study room)
Does it look promising 😂😂?

Is this cable can be use for conversion?




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Looks like LAN cable to me. Got chance wor.. get some keystones from taobao and play lo
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