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Old 10-10-2018, 04:06 PM   #16
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I don’t think so. Onr is still being deployed for the plan, so you can’t have another router for it too.

in hindsight, the only other way to ensure your ASUS can get an individual externally assigned IP is if you go for the Singtel 2GB (1 + 1) plan - then your ONR and ASUS can have seperately assigned IPs by singtel.


Upgrade i think don't need to pay any termination charges. Only downgrade need.


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Old 10-10-2018, 04:30 PM   #17
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I don’t think so. Onr is still being deployed for the plan, so you can’t have another router for it too.

Singtel use the ONR term too loosely

This is how they describe their 1+1Gb plan in another post


Our 1+1Gbps dual network comes with 2 x 1Gbps connection on our GPON Optical Network Router (ONR), where a 1Gbps bandwidth is dedicated for your gaming needs and another 1Gbps bandwidth can be shared among the rest of the family for daily Internet usage.

The ONR has 4 available active Gbe LAN ports that can each transmit at a maximum speed of 1Gbps. You’ll be able to connect to a wireless Access Point (e.g. WiFi Mesh) or Internet enabled devices (e.g. set-top box, computer, Smart TV) for Ports 1 to 3.

You can then set-up a third-party router (e.g. Razer Sila gaming router) for Port 4 via a wired connection. For WiFi connections, you are able to select between two WiFi Network SSIDs.


Seems port 4 straight pass our a wan IP address for your own router.

Strangely they don't have a 10G port for 2Gbps max on one line unlike other ISP. Maybe that's their way of preventing power users form choosing their plan.
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Old 10-10-2018, 07:41 PM   #18
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Singtel use the ONR term too loosely

This is how they describe their 1+1Gb plan in another post


Our 1+1Gbps dual network comes with 2 x 1Gbps connection on our GPON Optical Network Router (ONR), where a 1Gbps bandwidth is dedicated for your gaming needs and another 1Gbps bandwidth can be shared among the rest of the family for daily Internet usage.

The ONR has 4 available active Gbe LAN ports that can each transmit at a maximum speed of 1Gbps. You’ll be able to connect to a wireless Access Point (e.g. WiFi Mesh) or Internet enabled devices (e.g. set-top box, computer, Smart TV) for Ports 1 to 3.

You can then set-up a third-party router (e.g. Razer Sila gaming router) for Port 4 via a wired connection. For WiFi connections, you are able to select between two WiFi Network SSIDs.


Seems port 4 straight pass our a wan IP address for your own router.

Strangely they don't have a 10G port for 2Gbps max on one line unlike other ISP. Maybe that's their way of preventing power users form choosing their plan.
Only in Singapore got first world problem of "gamer" internet. Probably broadband price drop a lot from several years ago and now ISP need recoup their profits.

P.s if you want better gaming internet, spend your $$ on Ethernet trunking don't fall for gaming router, broadband plan scam.
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Old 10-10-2018, 08:22 PM   #19
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I use whizcomms(which uses singtel) ONR with my ASUS router with no problems at all. Only thing I changed was the LAN IP for the router.
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Old 10-10-2018, 09:05 PM   #20
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It’s a complicated process and it comes with other implications as well. Do a search on how to configure it like disabling dhcp on onr, putting your Asus in dmz etc.

My advice is not to go to that extreme and use Asus as an ap and leave the routing functions to onr.

What is so compelling on Asus that you die die must use?


Do you know bridge mode you don't need the Asus router to DMZ , double NAT will happen.

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I use whizcomms(which uses singtel) ONR with my ASUS router with no problems at all. Only thing I changed was the LAN IP for the router.
That's because Whizcomm provisoned their ONR in "bridge mode" while SingTel configure theirs in "router mode"
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Do you know bridge mode you don't need the Asus router to DMZ , double NAT will happen.
That's why he say "just use as AP" to prevent double NAT

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Old 11-10-2018, 12:08 AM   #23
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Singtel use the ONR term too loosely

This is how they describe their 1+1Gb plan in another post


Our 1+1Gbps dual network comes with 2 x 1Gbps connection on our GPON Optical Network Router (ONR), where a 1Gbps bandwidth is dedicated for your gaming needs and another 1Gbps bandwidth can be shared among the rest of the family for daily Internet usage.

The ONR has 4 available active Gbe LAN ports that can each transmit at a maximum speed of 1Gbps. Youíll be able to connect to a wireless Access Point (e.g. WiFi Mesh) or Internet enabled devices (e.g. set-top box, computer, Smart TV) for Ports 1 to 3.

You can then set-up a third-party router (e.g. Razer Sila gaming router) for Port 4 via a wired connection. For WiFi connections, you are able to select between two WiFi Network SSIDs.


Seems port 4 straight pass our a wan IP address for your own router.

Strangely they don't have a 10G port for 2Gbps max on one line unlike other ISP. Maybe that's their way of preventing power users form choosing their plan.
It is unclear whether this is 2gbps over 2 separate gigabit ports on a single public IP using onr, or 2 separate public IP addresses allocated. Either ways it is still using gpon (up to 2.4gbps), not xgpon (10gbps), hence no special onr with dedicated 10gbps port and bridging
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Old 11-10-2018, 08:04 AM   #24
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That's why he tell "just use as AP" to prevent double NAT
ST is ONR so can not have another router. If use as AP then no Trend Micro protection.
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Old 11-10-2018, 10:21 AM   #25
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Actually it seems to me only new SingTel subscribers and those who upgraded to >1Gbps plan get ONR. Existing 1Gbps (or 500Mbps) subscribers (including the-contract) can still use existing ONT and even one-to-one change to new ONT. Please refer to the other thread “SingTel provide ONR or ONT” in NGBN sub-forum.
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Old 11-10-2018, 10:28 AM   #26
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BTW what is so bad about Double NAT? I used it briefly (AC Plus as main router, Linksys WRT1900AC as secondary) when I made a mistake configuring Linksys WRT1900AC. Basically I think the ONR connect to the SingTel TV box and your own router . All the other devices connect to your own router. Internet browsing — no problem. NAS file sharing— no issue. Sorry I am not an expert in networking side. My involvement in the open source community centered on USB side.
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Old 11-10-2018, 10:35 AM   #27
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BTW what is so bad about Double NAT? I used it briefly (AC Plus as main router, Linksys WRT1900AC as secondary) when I made a mistake configuring Linksys WRT1900AC. Basically I think the ONR connect to the SingTel TV box and your own router . All the other devices connect to your own router. Internet browsing — no problem. NAS file sharing— no issue. Sorry I am not an expert in networking side. My involvement in the open source community centered on USB side.
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Old 11-10-2018, 10:59 AM   #28
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The recommendation seems to be very simple. But I think basically the recommended solution from the author will dumb down your router to become a AP/switch, right? ISP is happy but advanced user may not be happy.
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Old 11-10-2018, 02:36 PM   #29
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No leh, it's an ONR cause I used all 4 LAN ports behind it. 1 for the router, 1 for TV and 2 for home theatre.
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Old 11-10-2018, 02:40 PM   #30
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That's because Whizcomm provisoned their ONT in "bridge mode" while SingTel configure theirs in "router mode"
No leh, it's an ONR cause I used all the 4 LAN ports behind it, 1 for router, 1 for TV and 2 for home theatre
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