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acme 03-08-2020 03:22 PM
Btw, anyone know the username and password for the huawei ONR? Tried all the credential posted in hwz thread also cant go in :s13:

cstanhwz 03-08-2020 04:41 PM
Seriously, SingTel should let users have a choice if they want to set the ONR to ONT mode by adding an option in the web based user settings page.

If they need to troubleshot, just reset to ONR etc.

They can still do their troubleshooting while those who preferred ONT will be happy as well.

Not that difficult to do, SingTel!

asianguy 03-08-2020 07:54 PM
Would this method work if i am using Singtel AC Elite router ?
I read from previous post that it doesn't work for Singtel AC Plus router.
Thanks

xiaofan 03-08-2020 08:04 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by asianguy (Post 128883096)
Would this method work if i am using Singtel AC Elite router ?
I read from previous post that it doesn't work for Singtel AC Plus router.
Thanks
No it does not work.

BTW, the ONR is supposedly a more expensive equipment and belongs to SingTel, you have to return to SingTel once you decide to leave SingTel, at least as per the terms and conditions.

AC Plus is a low end router and it belongs to you.

xiaofan 03-08-2020 08:08 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by acme (Post 128878020)
Btw, anyone know the username and password for the huawei ONR? Tried all the credential posted in hwz thread also cant go in :s13:
Are you using the Huawei ONR? If yes, model number and HW/FW revision?

Take note there is now Nokia G240 ONR as well, like the user tuntun.

https://www.singtel.com/personal/sup...nd/routers-ont

List of currently supported Singtel issued equipment for Fibre broadband

Router
Singtel Mesh Routers
AC Plus
AC Elite (AC1900)
Aztech DSL7003GRV(AC)
Aztech DSL 7009GR(AC)

Optical Network Terminals (ONT)
ALU ONT
Ericsson ONT
ZTE ONT

Optical Network Router (ONR)
Huawei HG8244H ONR
Huawei HG8240T5 ONR
Nokia G240 ONR

tuntun 03-08-2020 10:05 PM
my friend house was installed today with EchoLife HG8240T5. anyone know the method to access? it comes with singtel TV svc. Singtel Mesh router was connected to Port 1 and TV box to port2 ...

xiaofan 03-08-2020 10:08 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by tuntun (Post 128885896)
my friend house was installed today with EchoLife HG8240T5. anyone know the method to access? it comes with singtel TV svc. Singtel Mesh router was connected to Port 1 and TV box to port2 ...
Try the post before in this thread. On the other hand, better talk to SingTel to get it done officially by SingTel now that you have the successful experiences in doing that -- which means you have the convincing power.


Quote:
Originally Posted by kartz4u (Post 126488688)
Hi

Anyone aware of the username and password for Singtel ONR HG8240T5? Appreciate the help.

Many thanks

Quote:
Originally Posted by kajdex (Post 126602930)
Have you tried
username: support
password: last 10 characters of the ONR's Serial but on reverse e.g. if Router Serial is 1234567890ABCDEF then the password is FEDCBA0987

xiaofan 02-10-2020 04:43 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by xiaofan (Post 128885948)
Try the post before in this thread. On the other hand, better talk to SingTel to get it done officially by SingTel now that you have the successful experiences in doing that -- which means you have the convincing power.
Latest success story in Huawei ONR bridging, and confirmation that Nokia ONR can not be bridged by SingTel as of now.

Now that SingTel seems to be pretty accommodating to the ONR bridge request, it is better to go through the official channel and talk to SingTel to do that.

BTW, the good thing is that bridged port does not need VLAN.

From AX88U thread.

Quote:
Originally Posted by cstanhwz (Post 130045538)
I just had Singtel bridged my ONR recently.

My original model was the EL HG8244H which has the guide in HWZ to bridge it. But did not really work. So I relied on my M1 connection.

Recently contacted ST to have the ONR bridge at their side. And after some persuasion, they agreed.

Singtel backend tried to push down the bridge configuration but also did not work.

In the end they send a field tech down and change the ONR to the EL HG8240T5. The field tech said the HG8244H does not support the bridge mode.

First set of HG8240T5 was bricked during the backend bridge firmware push. The field tech had to replace a 2nd unit which was pushed successfully.

So one reason why Singtel do not want to do the bridge mode thing is that it might brick the ONR. The field tech said they can only setup the bridge this way, cannot bridge the HG8240T5 before brining it down.

Singtel backend and the field Tech both said the Nokia ONR does not support bridge mode as Nokia did not provide the way to do it to Singtel.

And my Asus wireless router now works as wireless router instead of AP (can see WAN IP).

And I got a pleasant surprise gift from the bridging as well (cannot say what it is).

I can cancel my M1 fibre when contracts end now. :)

jtdcjtdc 03-10-2020 03:31 AM
hi. whizcomms issued me HG8240T. they didn't provide wifi router so i used an existing old one i have. i noticed the WAN IP is only on the huawei, and my router is just given some 192.168.10.x IP.
so it'd be better to configure it as bridge right, so my router gets the WAN IP?

magix 03-10-2020 07:07 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by jtdcjtdc (Post 130060216)
hi. whizcomms issued me HG8240T. they didn't provide wifi router so i used an existing old one i have. i noticed the WAN IP is only on the huawei, and my router is just given some 192.168.10.x IP.
so it'd be better to configure it as bridge right, so my router gets the WAN IP?
If the WAN IP is on router. The router should just be configure as bridge or AP mode.

xiaofan 03-10-2020 08:04 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by jtdcjtdc (Post 130060216)
hi. whizcomms issued me HG8240T. they didn't provide wifi router so i used an existing old one i have. i noticed the WAN IP is only on the huawei, and my router is just given some 192.168.10.x IP.
so it'd be better to configure it as bridge right, so my router gets the WAN IP?
For Whizcomms, you should have requested them to bridge the ONR before installation if you want to use your own router as the main router (to get the WAN address). It is free that way and NO justifications needed, unlike SingTel.

You can still call Whizcomms if you want the ONR bridged to see if they can do that for you for free or not.

If you want to live with the ONR, then you may want to configure your own router in AP mode to avoud Double NAT.

Ref: Double NAT
https://kb.netgear.com/30186/What-is-Double-NAT

jtdcjtdc 03-10-2020 09:28 AM
thank you for the responses. actually, which has the superior routing capability, is it the HG8240T5 or my old Asus RT-N56U? currently the asus is in router mode, so the huawei is just sitting pretty serving only one IP address. the asus takes the work of serving wifi and a gigabit LAN (to another gigabit router as AP mode wired to my room).

xiaofan 03-10-2020 09:45 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by jtdcjtdc (Post 130061599)
thank you for the responses. actually, which has the superior routing capability, is it the HG8240T5 or my old Asus RT-N56U? currently the asus is in router mode, so the huawei is just sitting pretty serving only one IP address. the asus takes the work of serving wifi and a gigabit LAN (to another gigabit router as AP mode wired to my room).
So currently you are having double NAT and no issues with that, right? You can choose to live with it. Double NAT has no impact to normal internet browsing.

By switching to bridged ONR (one port ONT mode for Whizcomms, SingTel can be more complicated), you can fully utilize the features of your main router, say when you upgrade your old RT-N56U to a better one with many features.

Neither the ONR or your RT-N56U will have superior routing capability but both can be used. ONR is more limited in FW features though. For example simple things like DNS server change and LAN IP address change may not be possible.

ONR has an advantage if you needed to put a router in the DB box. Wireless router will suffer severe degradation in terms of wireless performance. It also give you more LAN ports.

jtdcjtdc 04-10-2020 08:05 PM
thanks... the HG8240T5 setup on me here allows to change LAN IP address (and its DHCP, which can also set primary & secondary DNS). i had the router going to my room be directly connected to it, so i don't have double NAT (compared to the asus, devices connecting to it get double NAT).

the only thing bugging me on this setup (AP mode, without double NAT) is that i cannot ping the other devices in this same network. the devices who connect to the asus router (router mode, double NAT), do not have this problem.

xiaofan 04-10-2020 08:58 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by jtdcjtdc (Post 130090050)
thanks... the HG8240T5 setup on me here allows to change LAN IP address (and its DHCP, which can also set primary & secondary DNS). i had the router going to my room be directly connected to it, so i don't have double NAT (compared to the asus, devices connecting to it get double NAT).

the only thing bugging me on this setup (AP mode, without double NAT) is that i cannot ping the other devices in this same network. the devices who connect to the asus router (router mode, double NAT), do not have this problem.
Good that Whizcomms allow you to change the DNS server setting. Nevertheless the ONR is still the main router.

If you configure the Asus as an AP correctly (no DHCP, static address, say 192.168.1.2), you have only one network and you should be able to ping the device on the network. Every device will get an internal IP address as 192.168.1.x as the ONR acts as the sole DHCP server, no matter it is connected to the ONR or the Asus AP (wired or wireless). So something is not right in your setup. Maybe you forget to disable the DHCP server of the Asus.

When you configure the Asus as a router (say 192.168.2.1), you have double NAT. Then device connected to the ONR (192.168.1.x) will not be able to see the device connected to the Asus (192.168.1.x), and vice versa.

But if all your devices are connected to the Asus, then it is okay to use it in router mode and allow double NAT.


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