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Old 01-10-2018, 10:54 PM   #16
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Why can’t Apple just sell the true dual sim versions like for China market here ?
If I’m not mistaken and from what I can understand is that, their true goal is to have and the adoption for eSIM to grow. But the China market either doesn’t have or not wanting to adopt the eSIM technology at all.
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Old 01-10-2018, 10:56 PM   #17
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Esim is the future. Apple is creating the direction, just like the removal of the 3.5mm jack.

If they don't do it, everyone will keep using outdated technology.
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Old 01-10-2018, 11:17 PM   #18
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Esim is the future. Apple is creating the direction, just like the removal of the 3.5mm jack.

If they don't do it, everyone will keep using outdated technology.
Yup. That’s why they are the market driver for tech.
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Old 02-10-2018, 12:50 AM   #19
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Yeah maybe esim is the future, but I disagree on the earphone jack. Sound quality of wired earphones still better than Bluetooth ones for now,
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Old 02-10-2018, 09:20 AM   #20
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Soon android devices will use e sim too
eSIM may be the future, but why bring in eSIM phones when the country's telcos aren't ready with their eSIMs?

Anyway, is Vietnam eSIM-ready? I'm wondering about that guy who's first in the Apple queue, happily came from airport and rush to catch his flight back after he got his iPhone. Did he realize Hong Kong is the one with the physical dual-SIM and not here?
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Old 02-10-2018, 10:03 AM   #21
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Again, this is market dynamics decided by Apple. There could be a chance that telcos are offering esim shortly and that Apple could be the one not being ready..

eSIM may be the future, but why bring in eSIM phones when the country's telcos aren't ready with their eSIMs?

Anyway, is Vietnam eSIM-ready? I'm wondering about that guy who's first in the Apple queue, happily came from airport and rush to catch his flight back after he got his iPhone. Did he realize Hong Kong is the one with the physical dual-SIM and not here?
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Old 02-10-2018, 10:14 AM   #22
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Yeah maybe esim is the future, but I disagree on the earphone jack. Sound quality of wired earphones still better than Bluetooth ones for now,
it's the first step that matters. u already say 'for now' ma. it takes time for other companies to adopt it and focus on enhancing the technology. give it some time u'll never know if wireless bt technology can be equal or better than wired ones in sound quality. anyway can still use wired ones and connect via usb c/lightning. it just depend on the audio manufacturers.

furthermore technology should advance over time, i personally wouldn't want to use the same old technology (since 19xx) forever and especially so when the price keeps increasing while recycling same technology.

someone needs to push for newer technologies.

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Old 02-10-2018, 10:17 AM   #23
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eSIM may be the future, but why bring in eSIM phones when the country's telcos aren't ready with their eSIMs?

Anyway, is Vietnam eSIM-ready? I'm wondering about that guy who's first in the Apple queue, happily came from airport and rush to catch his flight back after he got his iPhone. Did he realize Hong Kong is the one with the physical dual-SIM and not here?
will the telcos ever be ready if nobody starts the ball rolling?

overall, it's still better in the long run. just have to give some time and we may all be benefiting more from it.
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Old 02-10-2018, 10:47 AM   #24
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Hopefully eSIM will be out soon. If not no point getting the iPhone XS/XS Max
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Old 02-10-2018, 11:01 AM   #25
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then no point of buying the phone now?
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Old 02-10-2018, 11:20 AM   #26
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You buy a phone looking at esim support or select a phone based on features?

iPhone esim may not be supported now but it’s not something that is additionally charged to you..

then no point of buying the phone now?
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Old 02-10-2018, 11:45 AM   #27
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I don’t think the majority is even concern about esim yet for now..

Hopefully eSIM will be out soon. If not no point getting the iPhone XS/XS Max
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Old 02-10-2018, 12:25 PM   #28
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If I am reading it correct, with the current eSIM for Apple watch, there is a charge for activation eSIM. There is even a re-activation fee when you change your Apple Watch.

If Singtel were to do the same for eSIM for iPhone, it would mean that you will need to pay everytime you change your phone. This as compared to putting in the nanosim in your new phone and that's it.

Is there an activation fee when I subscribe for NumberShare?

Yes, there is a one-time activation fee of $10.70 that allows eSIM provisioning on the cellular watch. A re-activation fee is applicable for new eSIM provisioning in the event that you lose, replace or damage your cellular watch.
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Old 02-10-2018, 12:49 PM   #29
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How/Why does the existence(or lack there of) of esim concern you?
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Old 02-10-2018, 01:50 PM   #30
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I wouldn't put it past any of the telcos here, for slugging you fellas a fee for this service.

Hopefully they don’t.
If they charge for E Sim then it will be very unfair.
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