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Old 08-01-2019, 02:25 AM   #3541
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just put the card in your case, problem solve
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Old 08-01-2019, 02:44 PM   #3542
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For me, my debit mastercard was replaced by the bank (UOB). My UOB mastercard in apple pay continued to work until the next working day, following which the fare readers refused to recognize my apple pay for tapping in already.
Maybe for credit card, it will be different.
ok i think apple pay can work with new expiry, but ABT can't.
after credit card expired and got a new card, recurring bill payments, apple pay and all can continue to work without any action from users.
but ABT need to remove and re-add the card.
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Old 10-01-2019, 08:39 PM   #3543
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mobile ABT by LTA is a flop. the machines are slow to detect, if at all. failure rate is too high for confident use during peak hours. having any registration required at all renders it too complicated to use and for the public to pick it up.

I was in London last month and contactless payments on their gantries works flawlessly. detection was almost as fast as their oyster cards and it only failed once out of the 5 days of continuous usage. the best part? no registration needed. I used my UOB MightyFX to pay for the rides and it works just as I expected it to. The only downside is they can't display the full fare under the transaction logs but I think that's the limit of EMV payments for mobile.

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Old 10-01-2019, 09:50 PM   #3544
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mobile ABT by LTA is a flop. the machines are slow to detect, if at all. failure rate is too high for confident use during peak hours. having any registration required at all renders it too complicated to use and for the public to pick it up.

I was in London last month and contactless payments on their gantries works flawlessly. detection was almost as fast as their oyster cards and it only failed once out of the 5 days of continuous usage. the best part? no registration needed. I used my UOB MightyFX to pay for the rides and it works just as I expected it to. The only downside is they can't display the full fare under the transaction logs but I think that's the limit of EMV payments for mobile.
you completely missed the point. Its still in public trial phase. Of course there is a league of discrepancies comparing to london's. LOL

Evaluate again when its publicly launched for use.
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Old 10-01-2019, 09:51 PM   #3545
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To be fair, I’m pretty sure the registration is just for the trial. If you want to track your usage on London’s system, you can also link your card in their ABT equivalent system.

I totally agree on the high failure rate though. I think it’s been improving on MRT gantries, but the detection on bus is really bad and you can’t stand aside and let people board like on MRT.

mobile ABT by LTA is a flop. the machines are slow to detect, if at all. failure rate is too high for confident use during peak hours. having any registration required at all renders it too complicated to use and for the public to pick it up.

I was in London last month and contactless payments on their gantries works flawlessly. detection was almost as fast as their oyster cards and it only failed once out of the 5 days of continuous usage. the best part? no registration needed. I used my UOB MightyFX to pay for the rides and it works just as I expected it to. The only downside is they can't display the full fare under the transaction logs but I think that's the limit of EMV payments for mobile.
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Old 10-01-2019, 10:00 PM   #3546
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To be fair, Iím pretty sure the registration is just for the trial. If you want to track your usage on Londonís system, you can also link your card in their ABT equivalent system.

I totally agree on the high failure rate though. I think itís been improving on MRT gantries, but the detection on bus is really bad and you canít stand aside and let people board like on MRT.
therefore to make things better, you users will have to feedback on regular basis. The number of registered users are high i believe, but those actually reporting constructive feedback only that few cats...
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Old 10-01-2019, 11:07 PM   #3547
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To be fair, Iím pretty sure the registration is just for the trial. If you want to track your usage on Londonís system, you can also link your card in their ABT equivalent system.

I totally agree on the high failure rate though. I think itís been improving on MRT gantries, but the detection on bus is really bad and you canít stand aside and let people board like on MRT.

i registered my physical card on the TfL app but the app doesn't show the usage on Apple Pay (I think because of the different numbers from the physical card).

yea i sincerely hope registration is only for the trial phase. And i kinda doubt detection rate can be improved from software side of their machines, because from what I can tell when I tap my contactless physical bank card, the latency is as just as slow but not as bad as when I use the phone.

My point is: if they want to enable mobile payments they should have taken the more official route: either work with smartphone manufacturers to enable mobile CEPAS (like mobile Felica) so we can load our ezlink/nets card into the phones like Suica, or switch to some other non-proprietary standards like felica or mifare (probably less likely, just to enable mobile payments?)

if they want to take the lazy EMV route, they should make sure their hardware/software is capable enough to detect EMV transactions reliably and quickly, or it'll just cause more problems than solving them
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Old 16-01-2019, 09:59 PM   #3548
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Feedback to TransitLink regarding the ABT contactless limit.

Quote: "Please allow us to share that card limits is set by respective banks which is not within TransitLink control.

However, we noted on your feedback which has been highlighted to the Banks for their attention.

Thank you for your feedback."
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Old 17-01-2019, 02:38 PM   #3549
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To be fair, Iím pretty sure the registration is just for the trial. If you want to track your usage on Londonís system, you can also link your card in their ABT equivalent system.

I totally agree on the high failure rate though. I think itís been improving on MRT gantries, but the detection on bus is really bad and you canít stand aside and let people board like on MRT.
the "no registration" here u all talking about is register for ABT account or register for apple pay number?

for apple pay detection on fare readers, improving is not enough for public launch. they have to find out the cause and solve it permanently. whether it's sensor problem, or data read/write problem, or card type detection problem, or bank etc.
now there are very few or almost no beta testers out there, dunno how they are going to fix it.
if they can't find out the cause and just improve a bit here and there, then mobile payment ABT will never make it.
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Old 17-01-2019, 02:48 PM   #3550
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btw, anyone still using apple pay or mobile ABT now?
is it still showing red light everyday even if u tap the phone/watch nicely and steadily? lol
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Old 26-01-2019, 11:42 AM   #3551
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If I’ve changed my phone, do I need to reapply at the ticket office?
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Old 26-01-2019, 05:50 PM   #3552
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Yup still can use smoothly

btw, anyone still using apple pay or mobile ABT now?
is it still showing red light everyday even if u tap the phone/watch nicely and steadily? lol
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Old 26-01-2019, 06:09 PM   #3553
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If Iíve changed my phone, do I need to reapply at the ticket office?
you can't reapply, the trial period has closed. you can only wait for the public launch.
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Old 28-01-2019, 10:18 AM   #3554
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Yup still can use smoothly
u mean now using apple pay ABT will get green light every time and never fail?
last time we all get red light everyday until we all stop using it.
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Old 28-01-2019, 11:08 AM   #3555
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I have to say it’s a lot better for me now. Used to be very scared of using on buses but it works quite well now.

u mean now using apple pay ABT will get green light every time and never fail?
last time we all get red light everyday until we all stop using it.
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