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Old 07-02-2015, 12:56 PM   #1756
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Hihi.. planning our 1st trip to Japan.. its a 16 days trip from 16 dec to 1 jan.. 2 adults and 2 children (6 & 9 yo).. need some help to get started on our itinerary..

Day 1 will reach narita airport at 9am.. I'm intending to go nagano to see snow monkey.. but accommodation is pretty expensive in that area for 4 pax.. will it be possible to do a day trip? Another consideration is that we want to go skiing.. so shld we just stay at nagano for 3D2N for snow monkey and to ski or is thr a cheaper place (outside of nagano) to ski?

How do I go from nagano to Mt. Fuji? I'm intending to visit the Lake Kawaguchiko. Shld I short stay at tokyo and do a day trip to Lake Kawaguchiko or just go thr and stay 2D1N?

After Lake Kawaguchiko, I'm intending to head over to kyoto and osaka.. so shld I purchase the 7 days Jr pass for this trip? Or will it be a better alternative for us to rent a car instead? Main thing is we will likely spend 3/4 days going to the theme parks (USJ/Disneyland/sea) at osaka and tokyo so I'm worried that we won't fully utilise the Jr pass.

Lastly, shld we include a 4D3N trip to Hokkaido?
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Hihi.. planning our 1st trip to Japan.. its a 16 days trip from 16 dec to 1 jan.. 2 adults and 2 children (6 & 9 yo).. need some help to get started on our itinerary..

Day 1 will reach narita airport at 9am.. I'm intending to go nagano to see snow monkey.. but accommodation is pretty expensive in that area for 4 pax.. will it be possible to do a day trip? Another consideration is that we want to go skiing.. so shld we just stay at nagano for 3D2N for snow monkey and to ski or is thr a cheaper place (outside of nagano) to ski?

How do I go from nagano to Mt. Fuji? I'm intending to visit the Lake Kawaguchiko. Shld I short stay at tokyo and do a day trip to Lake Kawaguchiko or just go thr and stay 2D1N?

After Lake Kawaguchiko, I'm intending to head over to kyoto and osaka.. so shld I purchase the 7 days Jr pass for this trip? Or will it be a better alternative for us to rent a car instead? Main thing is we will likely spend 3/4 days going to the theme parks (USJ/Disneyland/sea) at osaka and tokyo so I'm worried that we won't fully utilise the Jr pass.

Lastly, shld we include a 4D3N trip to Hokkaido?
so u intend to do Hokkaido, Nagano/Snow Money, Mt Fuji/Kawaguchigo, Osaka/Kyoto and Tokyo in 16 days?
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so u intend to do Hokkaido, Nagano/Snow Money, Mt Fuji/Kawaguchigo, Osaka/Kyoto and Tokyo in 16 days?
Hihi.. yes.. that's the intention.. will it be too tight?
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Hihi.. yes.. that's the intention.. will it be too tight?
start with a simple skeletal itinerary of each day, the bro/sis here will chip in to help you fine tune it.
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so u intend to do Hokkaido, Nagano/Snow Money, Mt Fuji/Kawaguchigo, Osaka/Kyoto and Tokyo in 16 days?

Ok.. decided to give hokkaido a miss as I don't want my 2 kiddos to get too cranky and become difficult to handle.. below is the itinerary I have drafted.. appreciate all bro/sis feedback on what else should we be visiting/doing and if the itinerary is alright.. thanks all in advance..

16 Dec 15
9am: Reach Narita Airport
10am: Catch Nagano Shinkansen to Nagano Station (1.30hr Journey)  To check for cheaper alternative)
11.45am: Reach Nagano Station and take Nagano Dentetsu Train to Yudanaka Station (50mins journey)
Reach Yudamaka at 1pm: Bus/Cab to Hotel St. Moritz or Hotel Khuls (to be decided nearer to date)
2pm: Leave luggage at Hotel and visit Snow Monkey at Jigokudani Monkey Park (will take est. 45mins – 1 hr trekking to reach Snow Monkey)
4.30pm: Leave and head back to Ryokan (to leave early and avoid it getting too dark if possible)
Night time: Dinner at Ryokan & explore the area. Have an early night

17 Dec 15
8am: Breakfast at Ryokan
10am: Ski full day
6pm: Return to Hotel for dinner & rest

18 Dec 15
10am: Check out and depart to Tokyo
12.00pm: Reach Tokyo  Lunch first
2pm: Catch JR Chou/Ome Line Rapid Service to Mitaka & transfer to Ltd. Express Kaiji 111 to Otsuki & finally transfer to Fujikyu Railway to Kawaguchiko
Reach Kawaguchiko at 5pm
By 6pm: To check-in to hotel/Ryokan and rest for the night

19 Dec 15:
8am: Breakfast
9am: Proceed to Lake Kawaguchiko
2pm: Head over to Gotemba Premium Outlet store
6pm: Head back to Hotel/Ryokan for the night

20 Dec 15:
10am: Visit Fuji Q Land (main purpose: Thomas & Friends land)
10pm: Check-out & take an overnight bus to Osaka

21 Dec 15:
7am: Reach Osaka & breakfast
9am: To hotel/apartment (airbnb) to leave luggage (likely Osaka/Namba area)
10am to 6pm: Head over to Umekoji Steam Locomotive Museum
7pm: Visit Rinku Outlet store

22 Dec 15:
8am: Breakfast
10am to 6pm: Universal Studio Japan (JR Sakurajima Line)
7pm: Visit Shinsaibashi again or Dotombori

23 Dec 15:
10am: Make our way to Nara (JR Nara Station)
11am: Reach Nara: go to Nara Koen & Naramachi
5pm: Head back to Osaka
7pm: Head over to Nipponbashi (Den Den Town in Namba) for anime & robots

24 Dec 15:
10am: Make our way to Arashiyama
To visit Monkey Park; Kameoka & River Hozu
5pm: Head back to Osaka
7pm: To visit Umeba Sky Building for Christmas Market

25 Dec 15:
11am: Visit Osaka Aquarium
Remaining time Free & Easy to roam around..
26 Dec 15:
10am: Check-out and head over to Tokyo via JR
2pm: Lunch & proceed to check-in (likely AirBnB apartment)
4pm: Akihabara (Anime building & Final Fantasy Café)
8pm: Back to apartment for the night (or shibuya depending on “awake level”)

27Dec 15:
9am: Breakfast around Shibuya
10am: Departs to Bandai Museum (Ishibashi Station)
4pm: Heads back to Tokyo Tower or Skytree
8pm: Back to apartment

28 Dec 15 & 29 Dec 15:
10am: Tokyo DisneySea & Tokyo DisneyLand

30 Dec 15:
10am: Legoland
5pm: Odaiba (Aqua City, Diver City, Rainbow Bridge, Palette town)

31 Dec 15:
10am: Ueno Park – Kaneiji Temple, Toshogu Shrine, Kiyomiza Kannon Temple,Bentendo, National Science Museum
5pm: Shibuya
11pm: Meiji Shrine for Countdown

1 Jan 16:
10am – Check-out
Roam around apartment area
6pm: Head over to Haneda airport (target to reach by 7.30pm – Flight departure at 11.35pm)
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Ok.. decided to give hokkaido a miss as I don't want my 2 kiddos to get too cranky and become difficult to handle.. below is the itinerary I have drafted.. appreciate all bro/sis feedback on what else should we be visiting/doing and if the itinerary is alright.. thanks all in advance..

16 Dec 15
9am: Reach Narita Airport
10am: Catch Nagano Shinkansen to Nagano Station (1.30hr Journey)  To check for cheaper alternative)
11.45am: Reach Nagano Station and take Nagano Dentetsu Train to Yudanaka Station (50mins journey)
Reach Yudamaka at 1pm: Bus/Cab to Hotel St. Moritz or Hotel Khuls (to be decided nearer to date)
2pm: Leave luggage at Hotel and visit Snow Monkey at Jigokudani Monkey Park (will take est. 45mins – 1 hr trekking to reach Snow Monkey)
4.30pm: Leave and head back to Ryokan (to leave early and avoid it getting too dark if possible)
Night time: Dinner at Ryokan & explore the area. Have an early night

17 Dec 15
8am: Breakfast at Ryokan
10am: Ski full day
6pm: Return to Hotel for dinner & rest

18 Dec 15
10am: Check out and depart to Tokyo
12.00pm: Reach Tokyo  Lunch first
2pm: Catch JR Chou/Ome Line Rapid Service to Mitaka & transfer to Ltd. Express Kaiji 111 to Otsuki & finally transfer to Fujikyu Railway to Kawaguchiko
Reach Kawaguchiko at 5pm
By 6pm: To check-in to hotel/Ryokan and rest for the night

19 Dec 15:
8am: Breakfast
9am: Proceed to Lake Kawaguchiko
2pm: Head over to Gotemba Premium Outlet store
6pm: Head back to Hotel/Ryokan for the night

20 Dec 15:
10am: Visit Fuji Q Land (main purpose: Thomas & Friends land)
10pm: Check-out & take an overnight bus to Osaka

21 Dec 15:
7am: Reach Osaka & breakfast
9am: To hotel/apartment (airbnb) to leave luggage (likely Osaka/Namba area)
10am to 6pm: Head over to Umekoji Steam Locomotive Museum
7pm: Visit Rinku Outlet store

22 Dec 15:
8am: Breakfast
10am to 6pm: Universal Studio Japan (JR Sakurajima Line)
7pm: Visit Shinsaibashi again or Dotombori

23 Dec 15:
10am: Make our way to Nara (JR Nara Station)
11am: Reach Nara: go to Nara Koen & Naramachi
5pm: Head back to Osaka
7pm: Head over to Nipponbashi (Den Den Town in Namba) for anime & robots

24 Dec 15:
10am: Make our way to Arashiyama
To visit Monkey Park; Kameoka & River Hozu
5pm: Head back to Osaka
7pm: To visit Umeba Sky Building for Christmas Market

25 Dec 15:
11am: Visit Osaka Aquarium
Remaining time Free & Easy to roam around..
26 Dec 15:
10am: Check-out and head over to Tokyo via JR
2pm: Lunch & proceed to check-in (likely AirBnB apartment)
4pm: Akihabara (Anime building & Final Fantasy Café)
8pm: Back to apartment for the night (or shibuya depending on “awake level”)

27Dec 15:
9am: Breakfast around Shibuya
10am: Departs to Bandai Museum (Ishibashi Station)
4pm: Heads back to Tokyo Tower or Skytree
8pm: Back to apartment

28 Dec 15 & 29 Dec 15:
10am: Tokyo DisneySea & Tokyo DisneyLand

30 Dec 15:
10am: Legoland
5pm: Odaiba (Aqua City, Diver City, Rainbow Bridge, Palette town)

31 Dec 15:
10am: Ueno Park – Kaneiji Temple, Toshogu Shrine, Kiyomiza Kannon Temple,Bentendo, National Science Museum
5pm: Shibuya
11pm: Meiji Shrine for Countdown

1 Jan 16:
10am – Check-out
Roam around apartment area
6pm: Head over to Haneda airport (target to reach by 7.30pm – Flight departure at 11.35pm)
First day no time for lunch?
Your hotels are 30 mins away from the monkey park by car.
Might be better to stay a night at Shibu Onsen to save time.
The walk to the monkey park will be in snow in Dec. Need more time definitely.

Osaka Rinku Outlet closes at 8pm.

For USJ, the magical parade starts at 7pm. I don't think your kids want to miss it.

To start shopping at Den Den town at 7pm means most shops will be closing soon, around 8pm... same thing with going to Umeda at 7pm (but more shops will open here later... till 9pm)...

Odaiba from 5pm means not enough time to cover those spots listed on your itinerary...

Meiji Shrine at 11pm for countdown??? I haven't done it before at Meiji Jingu but I am quite sure unless you go there much much earlier, you probably won't be able to reach anywhere near the shrine by midnight because of the crowd... but I am worried for your 2 young kids though staying out so late?
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Ok.. decided to give hokkaido a miss as I don't want my 2 kiddos to get too cranky and become difficult to handle.. below is the itinerary I have drafted.. appreciate all bro/sis feedback on what else should we be visiting/doing and if the itinerary is alright.. thanks all in advance..

16 Dec 15
9am: Reach Narita Airport
10am: Catch Nagano Shinkansen to Nagano Station (1.30hr Journey)  To check for cheaper alternative)
11.45am: Reach Nagano Station and take Nagano Dentetsu Train to Yudanaka Station (50mins journey)
Reach Yudamaka at 1pm: Bus/Cab to Hotel St. Moritz or Hotel Khuls (to be decided nearer to date)
2pm: Leave luggage at Hotel and visit Snow Monkey at Jigokudani Monkey Park (will take est. 45mins – 1 hr trekking to reach Snow Monkey)
4.30pm: Leave and head back to Ryokan (to leave early and avoid it getting too dark if possible)
Night time: Dinner at Ryokan & explore the area. Have an early night

17 Dec 15
8am: Breakfast at Ryokan
10am: Ski full day
6pm: Return to Hotel for dinner & rest

18 Dec 15
10am: Check out and depart to Tokyo
12.00pm: Reach Tokyo  Lunch first
2pm: Catch JR Chou/Ome Line Rapid Service to Mitaka & transfer to Ltd. Express Kaiji 111 to Otsuki & finally transfer to Fujikyu Railway to Kawaguchiko
Reach Kawaguchiko at 5pm
By 6pm: To check-in to hotel/Ryokan and rest for the night

19 Dec 15:
8am: Breakfast
9am: Proceed to Lake Kawaguchiko
2pm: Head over to Gotemba Premium Outlet store
6pm: Head back to Hotel/Ryokan for the night

20 Dec 15:
10am: Visit Fuji Q Land (main purpose: Thomas & Friends land)
10pm: Check-out & take an overnight bus to Osaka

21 Dec 15:
7am: Reach Osaka & breakfast
9am: To hotel/apartment (airbnb) to leave luggage (likely Osaka/Namba area)
10am to 6pm: Head over to Umekoji Steam Locomotive Museum
7pm: Visit Rinku Outlet store

22 Dec 15:
8am: Breakfast
10am to 6pm: Universal Studio Japan (JR Sakurajima Line)
7pm: Visit Shinsaibashi again or Dotombori

23 Dec 15:
10am: Make our way to Nara (JR Nara Station)
11am: Reach Nara: go to Nara Koen & Naramachi
5pm: Head back to Osaka
7pm: Head over to Nipponbashi (Den Den Town in Namba) for anime & robots

24 Dec 15:
10am: Make our way to Arashiyama
To visit Monkey Park; Kameoka & River Hozu
5pm: Head back to Osaka
7pm: To visit Umeba Sky Building for Christmas Market

25 Dec 15:
11am: Visit Osaka Aquarium
Remaining time Free & Easy to roam around..
26 Dec 15:
10am: Check-out and head over to Tokyo via JR
2pm: Lunch & proceed to check-in (likely AirBnB apartment)
4pm: Akihabara (Anime building & Final Fantasy Café)
8pm: Back to apartment for the night (or shibuya depending on “awake level”)

27Dec 15:
9am: Breakfast around Shibuya
10am: Departs to Bandai Museum (Ishibashi Station)
4pm: Heads back to Tokyo Tower or Skytree
8pm: Back to apartment

28 Dec 15 & 29 Dec 15:
10am: Tokyo DisneySea & Tokyo DisneyLand

30 Dec 15:
10am: Legoland
5pm: Odaiba (Aqua City, Diver City, Rainbow Bridge, Palette town)

31 Dec 15:
10am: Ueno Park – Kaneiji Temple, Toshogu Shrine, Kiyomiza Kannon Temple,Bentendo, National Science Museum
5pm: Shibuya
11pm: Meiji Shrine for Countdown

1 Jan 16:
10am – Check-out
Roam around apartment area
6pm: Head over to Haneda airport (target to reach by 7.30pm – Flight departure at 11.35pm)
how old are your kids? it may be quite tiring for them if u take the overnight bus. or at least shld take it easy on the day after the overnight bus.

an alternative will be to put nagano and osaka together, and cover them using the 7-day JR pass so u dun need to take overnight bus.

i have not been to the countdown at meiji shrine, but i think it is going to be super crowded. not too good to bring kids there coz it is going to be too tiring for them, and they may get lost in the crowd
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@dehui87 take note of the early sunset time in Dec
Sunrise and sunset times in Tokyo, December 2015
E.g. Snow Monkey park visit, leaving at 4.30pm would be in pitch dark condition. Year end travelling will always have this trouble of early sun setting.
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I think 4.30 is still okay... In the December that just passed, I hiked all the way in Kyoto till 6.10!!!! I saw the last trace of daylight around 5:05pm. The rest was hiked in darkness....
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Thanks Cpuer for earlier reply! Was really helpful.

Few questions:
Can someone work out for me if a free pass is worth it for Thomas Land? I will be going Thomas Land with my son. I calculated at least 2200Yen is needed for the rides once. Free Pass should be 4000 for Highland resort guest. My husband can take the free pass as he will be trying the thrill rides and quickly join us at Thomas land.
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Is there potato-farm at haneda airport?
Or should I buy from shin-chitose airport? (where in shin-chitose airport can buy? that day i walk walk never see)
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Is there potato-farm at haneda airport?
Or should I buy from shin-chitose airport? (where in shin-chitose airport can buy? that day i walk walk never see)
Confirm have. at the store beside gate 110 of haneda international airport
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Go Tokyo stay which area better?
Trying to look for apartment at Airbnb as going with family.

Current plan only disney in mind, would appreciate if can recommend places to go, site seeing and food.
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Go Tokyo stay which area better?
Trying to look for apartment at Airbnb as going with family.

Current plan only disney in mind, would appreciate if can recommend places to go, site seeing and food.
Along the Yamanote line is good.
Yamanote Line - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Most have connections to either to metro or to other railways companies or lines(except Shinokubo, a small station in Korea Town)

Choose one that best serve your itinerary and your day trips.
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Confirm have. at the store beside gate 110 of haneda international airport
Ok Then I hoot at Airport.
Every day go back hotel with one big bag of hoots, gonna overweight soon.
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