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Old 11-02-2015, 09:24 PM   #1816
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Dear all, I have some questions:

1) I am going to take the Sagona Scenic Railway on 6 March. I will be travelling from Kobe. Based on Hyperdia, the route is Sannomiya-Osaka-SagaArashiyama (abt 70-80min). From here, how do I get to the Torroko Saga station to board the scenic train?
Is this the fastest route, as in, do I have to bypass Osaka? Also, the route between Osaka & SagaArashiyama may be run my Shinkansen and needs to reserve seats. Does that mean the rapid service might not have seats and we need to stand?

2) Can I buy all these tickets (including return tic) together at JR Osaka sta. If so, do I have to choose which route? If I miss a train, can I take the next one using my existing ticket?

3) Can I buy these tickets in Shinjuku?

4) Pls advise on this route:- On the way back on the scenic train, alight at Torokko Arayashima Sta. (one stop before you reach the boarding sta.-Saga Arayashima ). Walk to
Bamboo Grove. Further down to Tenryuji Temple (500Yen). Walk the street toward the famous Togetsukyo bridge. Many shops.
Reached Arayashima Sta. (walk around)..walk 20min to Saga Arashiyama Sta to take JR back to Kyoto.
Is there anyway I can avoid the 20min walk?

5) I think above will take half or 3/4 day. When I am back to Kyoto, do I still have some time to tour Nijo castle for the plum trees? Am I restricted on the JR time back to Kobe?

Thanks in advance!
1) The station for the start point of the scenic railway is located just next to the JR Saga Arashiyama building...it's situated in a brown bick building and there's a Steam Locomotive in front of it...you won't be able to miss it...

fastest way is to take Shinkansen to JR Kyoto Station then take the JR Sagano line to JR Saga Arashiyama station..for rapid service trains..its free seating so you won't be able to do reservation..you might want to reserve seats for the shinkansen portion of the journey from shin kobe to JR kyoto

2) if you are taking limited express services to Kyoto from Osaka...then yes...you can reserve ticket for the return journey...if you miss the train...you can always use the free seating part of the train service..you should not face any problem with the conductor since you've paid for your ticket

3) Yes....you can basically reserve seating for JR trains across the Japan from any JR ticket offices

4) Your walking path seems fine since Torokko Arashiyama is located near the bamboo grove.....there's no walk to avoid the walk to JR Saga Arashiyama....the two other stations nearer to the bridge are Raden Arashiyama and Hankyu Arashiyama...there's a connection to Umeda from the Hankyu station via the Hankyu Kyoto Line..but it takes a long time..so you are better off going back to kobe from JR kyoto station

5) Arashiyama is a very scenic and pleasant place to be...don't rush yourself and just spent half a day there...you will have more than enough things to see and do for an entire day.....so my suggestion is just to spent one entire day in Arashiyama...but alternatively....it's also plausible to visit Nijo castle...but you will probably need to leave Arashiyama latest at 2.30pm as the trip to Nijo castle will take 45mins-1hr from Arashiyama
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Old 11-02-2015, 09:40 PM   #1817
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Nikko is quite a nice place to go. =)
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Old 11-02-2015, 11:08 PM   #1820
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Lukasi wrote:
Dear all, I have some questions:

1) I am going to take the Sagona Scenic Railway on 6 March. I will be travelling from Kobe. Based on Hyperdia, the route is Sannomiya-Osaka-SagaArashiyama (abt 70-80min). From here, how do I get to the Torroko Saga station to board the scenic train?
Is this the fastest route, as in, do I have to bypass Osaka? Also, the route between Osaka & SagaArashiyama may be run my Shinkansen and needs to reserve seats. Does that mean the rapid service might not have seats and we need to stand?

2) Can I buy all these tickets (including return tic) together at JR Osaka sta. If so, do I have to choose which route? If I miss a train, can I take the next one using my existing ticket?

3) Can I buy these tickets in Shinjuku?

4) Pls advise on this route:- On the way back on the scenic train, alight at Torokko Arayashima Sta. (one stop before you reach the boarding sta.-Saga Arayashima ). Walk to
Bamboo Grove. Further down to Tenryuji Temple (500Yen). Walk the street toward the famous Togetsukyo bridge. Many shops.
Reached Arayashima Sta. (walk around)..walk 20min to Saga Arashiyama Sta to take JR back to Kyoto.
Is there anyway I can avoid the 20min walk?

5) I think above will take half or 3/4 day. When I am back to Kyoto, do I still have some time to tour Nijo castle for the plum trees? Am I restricted on the JR time back to Kobe?

Thanks in advance!
I bought my arashiyama train tix (one way) at KIX when i arrived coz at that time the train tix during autumn very popular...

Walking in Arashiyama is actually one of the highlight... Despite my extremely after many days of walking leg, I continued to walk to take in the sights and sounds - i walked all the way to the bridge. Actually in kyoto, walking is ur best friend if you want to see more and also save time - the buses are so not your friend
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Old 12-02-2015, 09:45 AM   #1821
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btw rgd the sagano scenic rail, is there a walking path that mirrors the same route?
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I read on the goawaysam blog that I can take either Shinagawa station using Keikyu Airport line or Hamamatsucho station using Tokyo monorail to go to Haneda airport. Want to check if I can take the other way round? Like from airport to that station. And would there be like peak period for the Keikyu Airport line or the Tokyo monorail? Cause the timing I arrive at Tokyo would be the peak period for the working hour. Don know if this apply to those airport railway too. Thanks alot!
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Old 12-02-2015, 12:20 PM   #1823
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I read on the goawaysam blog that I can take either Shinagawa station using Keikyu Airport line or Hamamatsucho station using Tokyo monorail to go to Haneda airport. Want to check if I can take the other way round? Like from airport to that station. And would there be like peak period for the Keikyu Airport line or the Tokyo monorail? Cause the timing I arrive at Tokyo would be the peak period for the working hour. Don know if this apply to those airport railway too. Thanks alot!
i think (i think only) keikyu should be best for shinagwa since its direct.

the monorail won't be crowded but once you reach the yamanote line it will be! (monorail gotta get off and take the latter at hamamatsucho.

it is a nightmare to navigate your luggage with ppl scurrying around during the rush hour. was 7ish when i took. i think 8ish will be worse.
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I read on the goawaysam blog that I can take either Shinagawa station using Keikyu Airport line or Hamamatsucho station using Tokyo monorail to go to Haneda airport. Want to check if I can take the other way round? Like from airport to that station. And would there be like peak period for the Keikyu Airport line or the Tokyo monorail? Cause the timing I arrive at Tokyo would be the peak period for the working hour. Don know if this apply to those airport railway too. Thanks alot!

yup, can take from airport to shinagawa or hamamatsucho. u can use hyperdia to check the trains:
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i think (i think only) keikyu should be best for shinagwa since its direct.

the monorail won't be crowded but once you reach the yamanote line it will be! (monorail gotta get off and take the latter at hamamatsucho.

it is a nightmare to navigate your luggage with ppl scurrying around during the rush hour. was 7ish when i took. i think 8ish will be worse.
Oh.. Its like not Singapore dhoby ghaut circle line NE line, where they all stop at this specific station? After taking the Keikyu and reach Shinagawa, I have to change another transport? Or did I mistaken your explanation.
My flight reach at 1605. So after everything done should be maybe 5pm. Should be will reach Shinagawa before 6. Any idea if its very congest?

yup, can take from airport to shinagawa or hamamatsucho. u can use hyperdia to check the trains:
HyperDia | Timetable and Route Search in Japan.
Okay, thanks alot!
This location is more convinience for me, with to and fro for both airport and along yamanote line.
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1) The station for the start point of the scenic railway is located just next to the JR Saga Arashiyama building...it's situated in a brown bick building and there's a Steam Locomotive in front of it...you won't be able to miss it...

fastest way is to take Shinkansen to JR Kyoto Station then take the JR Sagano line to JR Saga Arashiyama station..for rapid service trains..its free seating so you won't be able to do reservation..you might want to reserve seats for the shinkansen portion of the journey from shin kobe to JR kyoto

2) if you are taking limited express services to Kyoto from Osaka...then yes...you can reserve ticket for the return journey...if you miss the train...you can always use the free seating part of the train service..you should not face any problem with the conductor since you've paid for your ticket

3) Yes....you can basically reserve seating for JR trains across the Japan from any JR ticket offices

4) Your walking path seems fine since Torokko Arashiyama is located near the bamboo grove.....there's no walk to avoid the walk to JR Saga Arashiyama....the two other stations nearer to the bridge are Raden Arashiyama and Hankyu Arashiyama...there's a connection to Umeda from the Hankyu station via the Hankyu Kyoto Line..but it takes a long time..so you are better off going back to kobe from JR kyoto station

5) Arashiyama is a very scenic and pleasant place to be...don't rush yourself and just spent half a day there...you will have more than enough things to see and do for an entire day.....so my suggestion is just to spent one entire day in Arashiyama...but alternatively....it's also plausible to visit Nijo castle...but you will probably need to leave Arashiyama latest at 2.30pm as the trip to Nijo castle will take 45mins-1hr from Arashiyama

Is a JR one-day pass any useful here? (Travelling from Shin-Kobe to Arashimaya and back) I have a 4yr old child. So he will be free.
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Clear my doubt pls:

Crowne Plaza Ana Kobe website says it's a 20min to universal studio but hyperdia says its abt 50min. It will be helpful for me to know if I should stay one more day in Osaka (just 18min away fr Osaka Namba sta)

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Clear my doubt pls:

Crowne Plaza Ana Kobe website says it's a 20min to universal studio but hyperdia says its abt 50min. It will be helpful for me to know if I should stay one more day in Osaka (just 18min away fr Osaka Namba sta)

Tks in advance!

20min is by car issit? got link to the website?


crowne plaze ANA kobe is near shin-kobe station. need to change a few train to get to universal studio.


it would be better to stay in Osaka and travel to kobe instead
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will be travelling to kansai from 25jun to 2jul. found out there this is the rainy season? how bad will it be? cos I plan to go to uss and do some cycling etc
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Is a JR one-day pass any useful here? (Travelling from Shin-Kobe to Arashimaya and back) I have a 4yr old child. So he will be free.

yes, JR west kansai area pass is useful coz the trip from Sannomiya to Sagaarashiyama is already 1490yen one-way
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