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Old 12-03-2017, 09:58 PM   #6241
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Rough guide only, so which one u think is along the way and others can take out for other day?
Depends on where you are staying if staying in Kyoto u can start really early.
Best if you can arrange another day in Kyoto

Day 1
Fushimi Inari early like 7am or so
Tofukuji
Then go to Arashiyama (Half day to rest of the day if u can allocate Kinkakuji to another day)
Kinkakuji -> This is so weird from south to North. I recommend do Day 3

Day 2
Ginkakuji
Nanzenji (Or Eikando, I think Eikando is quieter during non Autumn period, Very nice to visit. Nanzenji, got many subtemples, unless u go to all otherwise i don;t know why tourist want go there)
Kodaiji (Chionin i think not so attractive for tourist)
Kiyomizu (As i mentioned main stage covered by steel bar, i don't think is worth. If time is tight then i don;t recommend since the main stage is 99% of kiyomizu, maybe 1% is the jishu shrine)
Yasaka Shrine
Gion at Night (Hanamikoji)
If got time can go Kenninji at Gion as well

Day 3
Kinkakuji
Ryoanji
Ninnaji
Nijo Castle
Shopping around Shijo

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Old 12-03-2017, 10:10 PM   #6242
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Gyoen Mae is closer of course. The Mae in the word is In Front. Shinjuku Gyoen Mae -> In front of Shinjuku Gyoen.
Ohhh.. I didnt know Thanks!
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KIX? you stayed near airport? That is quite far from both Kyoto and Osaka.
No leh my hotel is around shinsaibashi

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Old 12-03-2017, 10:17 PM   #6244
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Depends on where you are staying if staying in Kyoto u can start really early.
Best if you can arrange another day in Kyoto

Day 1
Fushimi Inari early like 7am or so
Tofukuji
Then go to Arashiyama (Half day to rest of the day if u can allocate Kinkakuji to another day)
Kinkakuji -> This is so weird from south to North. I recommend do Day 3

Day 2
Ginkakuji
Nanzenji (Or Eikando, I think Eikando is quieter during non Autumn period, Very nice to visit. Nanzenji, got many subtemples, unless u go to all otherwise i don;t know why tourist want go there)
Kodaiji (Chionin i think not so attractive for tourist)
Kiyomizu (As i mentioned main stage covered by steel bar, i don't think is worth. If time is tight then i don;t recommend since the main stage is 99% of kiyomizu, maybe 1% is the jishu shrine)
Yasaka Shrine
Gion at Night (Hanamikoji)
If got time can go Kenninji at Gion as well

Day 3
Kinkakuji
Ryoanji
Ninnaji
Nijo Castle
Shopping around Shijo
hmmm i only got 2 days in kyoto, will be staying in Osaka(umeda area)
My must go will be Arashimaya, Fushimi Inari , Nijo , philosopher path area etc. the rest is mostly shun bian go type.
so best plan is ?
Day 1
Arashimaya, Nijo castle, Tofuikuji and inari ?

Day 2 will be as per you mention plus Kinkakuji ?
as its a walk down those temple, maybe just take a look and dont spend so much time there? As you said not much attractive / not worth the time, unless we need to make a detour specially to go there, then thats another story.
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hmmm i only got 2 days in kyoto, will be staying in Osaka(umeda area)
My must go will be Arashimaya, Fushimi Inari , Nijo , philosopher path area etc. the rest is mostly shun bian go type.
so best plan is ?
Day 1
Arashimaya, Nijo castle, Tofuikuji and inari ?

Day 2 will be as per you mention plus Kinkakuji ?
as its a walk down those temple, maybe just take a look and dont spend so much time there? As you said not much attractive / not worth the time, unless we need to make a detour specially to go there, then thats another story.
In that case unless you want to start really super early like 5am+ leave hotel.
Then your day 1 might be really tight.

If you look at day 1. If you reach Kyoto 8am. Then need travel to Arashiyama
Then just Tenryuji and Bamboo grove already maybe noon
Then need travel back to Nijo Castle. Then that maybe finish whole Nijo is 3pm.
Once you reach 3pm, then time is lacking since temples all close maybe 4-5pm.
I think at most day 1 u can do Inari after Nijo.

Day 2
Your Kinkakuji is the detour. All the temples i mentioned is located 1 straight line down from Ginkakuji to Kiyomizu. Those are located in the East. So i don't think u can cover Kinkakuji on that day. Unless u mid point go East -> North -> East.
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In that case unless you want to start really super early like 5am+ leave hotel.
Then your day 1 might be really tight.

If you look at day 1. If you reach Kyoto 8am. Then need travel to Arashiyama
Then just Tenryuji and Bamboo grove already maybe noon
Then need travel back to Nijo Castle. Then that maybe finish whole Nijo is 3pm.
Once you reach 3pm, then time is lacking since temples all close maybe 4-5pm.
I think at most day 1 u can do Inari after Nijo.

Day 2
Your Kinkakuji is the detour. All the temples i mentioned is located 1 straight line down from Ginkakuji to Kiyomizu. Those are located in the East. So i don't think u can cover Kinkakuji on that day. Unless u mid point go East -> North -> East.
Hmm, so its best to visit inari early morning and go north, or visit Arashiyama and go south? Is ok to skip tofuji, but somehow still wanna go golden pavilion. day 2 will be super tight?
OR day 1 go kinkakuji after Nijo, day 2 then go Inari?
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Osaka , Kobe , Nara , Kyoto , Wakayama , so is there a ezlink equivalent that I need to buy ? I understand there are several types based on various lines and sometimes I need to buy ticket which is ok.
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Guys, I'm going to

Osaka , Kobe , Nara , Kyoto , Wakayama , so is there a ezlink equivalent that I need to buy ? I understand there are several types based on various lines and sometimes I need to buy ticket which is ok.
Their IC card is now interchangeable across whole of Japan. I use my suica from hokkaido to Kyushu.

Within Osaka, Kobe, Nara, Kyoto and travel to and fro all those 4 will be no issue

Wakayama u will need limited express if u going to Kumano. Limited express will need physical ticket.
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Hmm, so its best to visit inari early morning and go north, or visit Arashiyama and go south? Is ok to skip tofuji, but somehow still wanna go golden pavilion. day 2 will be super tight?
OR day 1 go kinkakuji after Nijo, day 2 then go Inari?
Fushimi Inari Taisha it very popular with tourists. Especially when no entrance fee.
So normally what i will do is go super early. If you go Late, then the torii gates got so many tourists until hard to take photo.

If u die die want to go Kinkakuji. What i will recommend is Day 1

Super early Fushimi Inari (U need leave hotel super early to travel to Kyoto) - Arashiyama - Kinkakuji.

Just skip Nijo castle.
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Fushimi Inari Taisha it very popular with tourists. Especially when no entrance fee.
So normally what i will do is go super early. If you go Late, then the torii gates got so many tourists until hard to take photo.

If u die die want to go Kinkakuji. What i will recommend is Day 1

Super early Fushimi Inari (U need leave hotel super early to travel to Kyoto) - Arashiyama - Kinkakuji.

Just skip Nijo castle.
What about going to Fushimi-Inari during the late evening or in the night?
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What about going to Fushimi-Inari during the late evening?
You could. Depends on which month u going. In autumn night fall is 4-5pm.
Now kyoto sunset is around 6pm.
Although Fushimi Inari is opened 24 hours but then it become too dark to take photo.
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Fushimi Inari Taisha it very popular with tourists. Especially when no entrance fee.
So normally what i will do is go super early. If you go Late, then the torii gates got so many tourists until hard to take photo.

If u die die want to go Kinkakuji. What i will recommend is Day 1

Super early Fushimi Inari (U need leave hotel super early to travel to Kyoto) - Arashiyama - Kinkakuji.

Just skip Nijo castle.
Ok, So Inari early morning, Then one JR line mrt to Arashima? then cab(2k yen) to Kinkakuji since taking train is too many transfer n messy? after that still got time for other stuff? etc
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have some directional problems with the gardens....


Tokyo - Shinjuku Gyoen National Garden

Which station is closer to walk to here, and via which gate? Shinjuku-Sanchome Station or Shinjuku-Gyoenmae Station?


Tokyo - Imperial Palace

Which is the easiest way to enter the palace and via which gate? Japan Guide website said it is Tokyo Station, however when I use Google Map, it is 1.7km by foot! so Tokyo Station or Otemachi Station (from the map like closer, but I'm unsure)?

Also, is the Imperial East Garden more worthy or Imperial Palace? if do both together, which to visit first?
Hibya or Nijubashi-mae station. Both are in front of the direct straight path towards Palace.
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Ok, So Arashimaya early morning, then cab to Kinkakuji(about 2k Yen, since looking at the subway map is really out of the way), den down to Inari? Still will have time or already v tight? of cos hope to be there before sunset, wanna take nice pic. Travelling end march
Tenryuji open 8:30. So if u spend maybe 3 hours in Arashiyama
Then go to Kinkakuji for 1 hour
Then from Kinkakuji, if u take a bus back to Kyoto station around 40mins
Then then train to Fushimi Station

Could work
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Tenryuji open 8:30. So if u spend maybe 3 hours in Arashiyama
Then go to Kinkakuji for 1 hour
Then from Kinkakuji, if u take a bus back to Kyoto station around 40mins
Then then train to Fushimi Station

Could work
from what you see, Arashiyama first, or Inari first better?
As i see inari seems to got one straight JR train to Arashiyama.
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