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Old 02-02-2017, 08:38 AM   #1
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Hokkaido Daisetsuzan

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I am planning for a Autumn 2017 trip to Hokkaido. We like trekking, so shortlisting some trekking trails. One of the interesting one I saw is the Daisetsuzan trails. Anyone been there before? I am looking at a day trip only with Sapporo as base. Judging from the trains schedule, earliest we can reach Asahikawa is only at 0800, and that timing we will miss the first bus to Asahidake at 0750. The next bus is at 1010, reaching the Asahidake Onsen at 1135. As we wanted to summit the highest Hokkaido mt ie Mt Asahi, that itself will take us 2hrs one way. Are we kind of tight? Not forgetting we need to catch the last bus (1800) back to Asahikawa.

http://www.japan-guide.com/e/e6776.html

Or we should base in Asahikawa and after Mt Asahi hike, we should continue to do a Biei and Furano tour the next day?

Hokkaido pro please advise.
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Old 02-02-2017, 11:15 AM   #2
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go to biei and furano
then evening end the day at sounkyou onsen
next morning take the cable car up to mt kurodake and hike all the way to mt asahidake
then either overnight at asahidake onsen or go back to sapporo

[edit] eh just saw that you are going in autumn. note that the higher reaches of the mountains will already be snow/ice/slush. so you need to be properly prepared/geared to hike in those temperatures/conditions.

Example, when i went during autumn last year, kurodake 5th station ski lift already got patches of snow. 7th station onwards already full snow like this

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Old 02-02-2017, 11:57 AM   #3
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thanks bro! Ok, we are actually looking at end Sep reaching there, like the last week of Sep. The aim is more Koyo than snow.

can we actually traverse from Kurodake to Asahidake in a day? I saw japan-guide said need 2 days. If can be done in one day, we will be really interested and I adopt your rout

and did you summited both mountains?
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Old 02-02-2017, 12:08 PM   #4
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don't do it from Sapporo, it's too far.

Also Kurodake to Asahidake is like a 4-5hrs hike from what I read.

if u want to get to highest Asahidake peak, would be more manageable to do it from Asahidake Ropeway (instead of Kurodake Ropeway at Sounkyo).
From Asahidake ropeway station, you can see the peak. I also feel the view is better than Kurodake. I only walked 1/3 the way in May in snow/slush. If there is snow, not sure how accessible it is.
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Asahidake in early May.
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Old 02-02-2017, 12:57 PM   #6
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still covered with snow in MAY???

i thought there are accommodations @ Daisetsuzan?
it been so many years ago, the ropeway still under construction when i was there



Asahidake in early May.
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don't do it from Sapporo, it's too far.

Also Kurodake to Asahidake is like a 4-5hrs hike from what I read.

if u want to get to highest Asahidake peak, would be more manageable to do it from Asahidake Ropeway (instead of Kurodake Ropeway at Sounkyo).
From Asahidake ropeway station, you can see the peak. I also feel the view is better than Kurodake. I only walked 1/3 the way in May in snow/slush. If there is snow, not sure how accessible it is.
yes, my initial idea is to ride the ropeway to the ropeway stn at Asahidake then hike to the peak. But worried about the whole thing will take too long and thus missing our return bus back to asahikawa stn.
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yes, my initial idea is to ride the ropeway to the ropeway stn at Asahidake then hike to the peak. But worried about the whole thing will take too long and thus missing our return bus back to asahikawa stn.
self drive ?

I m also planning a trip in Sep.

there are some resorts near the Asahidake ropeway station (Bear or Deer Resort or something like that).
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self drive ?

I m also planning a trip in Sep.

there are some resorts near the Asahidake ropeway station (Bear or Deer Resort or something like that).
yes, will consider renting a car if we have enough to share the rental cost.
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yes, will consider renting a car if we have enough to share the rental cost.
car rental is cheap.

book thru Jalan.net or Rakuten Japan for better deals

cheaper than rail for 2 pax
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i have overlooked one main consideration. China Oct golden week! I need to replan liao
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i have overlooked one main consideration. China Oct golden week! I need to replan liao
Hokkaido so big ... it depends which part

touristy parts would have more people

I also thinking last week Sep & early Oct ... best of both worlds, can see snow & autumn leaves ... hopefully
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Old 06-02-2017, 09:58 AM   #13
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Jialat, looks like 23 Sep to 5 Oct is really the only time for me to travel to Hokkaido. Effective full day is 11 days.

Here's the initial main plan:

Daisetsuzan(mainly to hike to Asahidake summit and hopefully enjoy some Koyo scenery as we hike up)

Noboribetsu jigokudani area
http://www.japan-guide.com/e/e6751.html

Usuzan west crater
http://www.japan-guide.com/e/e6727.html
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Old 06-02-2017, 10:34 AM   #14
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If you interested in koyo try and put in hoheikyo dam in your itinerary cos it's gorgeous in autumn.

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If you interested in koyo try and put in hoheikyo dam in your itinerary cos it's gorgeous in autumn.

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beautiful. But seems like accessible only via driving?
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