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Old 25-07-2019, 10:33 PM   #2656
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Never trust brokerage reports.

They are the best DJs in the world. Able to put a spin to anything substantial or mundane for their own objectives.

If the writer of the report has visited RWG (and I doubt), he would know that half the indoor theme park is still not opened.

So its more logical to conclude that the ramp-up in recruitment is for the unopened indoor theme park attractions, rather than for the opening of the outdoor theme park.

From my physical observation early this month and compared to my previous visit in Feb, I see no significant progress in the theme park. Yes. Most of the structures appear to be up and but you can hardly see any activities going on in the construction zone.
park preparing to launch in 6-9 months.
Looks like the stock broker have inside information after all.

https://www.thestar.com.my/business/...teKeh0S26Be.99

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Old 25-07-2019, 10:38 PM   #2657
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I usually go this way :

Tower 2 take lift to lvl 8 or Tower 1 take lift to lvl 3. Look for food factory which is the place for buffet breakfast. It is near the group check-in. There is key kiosk there so can drop the keys. From there follow the signs to Sky Avenue. You will end up at lvl 4 of Sky Avenue near the Jurassic Centre. From lvl 4 look for signs to Resort Hotel or Genting complex. Lvl 4 need to walk one part in the open and the floor is not easy for rolling hard luggage. So I usually prefer to take lift or escalator down to lvl 3 then walk. Once walk to the end take escalator up and up. Come out from KFC and McDonald's. Then follow sign to Resorts Hotel.

I prefer this way than to go to Lvl 1 of Sky Avenue which is crowded.

nice. i like the lvl 8 strategy also.
i usually use that route even when going back hotel room to rest
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Old 25-07-2019, 10:41 PM   #2658
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Disagree...if u believe strictly following the so-called guidelines every single hand means u will win then casino will close shop liow...
It is Maths, like 2+2=4, and not Guidelines.
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Old 25-07-2019, 10:47 PM   #2659
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It is Maths. like 2+2=4, and not Guidelines.
It's guidelines only as long the house or dealer is concerned. Guidelines only equal rules when dealer himself disallow a certain decision..it's part maths/skills & part luck...well that's why at times u hv to make an unpopular decision based on yr gut-feel...not necessarily one tat will make other players happy...

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Old 25-07-2019, 11:53 PM   #2660
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Paul Lee is correct. You are wrong.
Care to elaborate?

Its always easier to pin the blame on the lousy player who "kill" your hands with his lousy play, than to acknowledge that your loss is attributable to variability. Blackjack is an independent game (i.e. its not a team game), whatever card that other players take has no effect whatsoever on your hand.

It does not matter even if another player split his 10's, it does not affect the probabilities on your hand.

Have a read on Edward Thorpe's book. Your long held myth ought to be debunked today.
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Old 26-07-2019, 12:06 AM   #2661
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As long as you stick to the basic strategy on a 6-deck Spanish 21, you lower house edge to ~ 0.4%.

Whatever other players do, does not affect your edge. A simple google search would have yielded you such results.

If you are lazy, let me help you out.

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Old 26-07-2019, 12:33 AM   #2662
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Care to elaborate?

Its always easier to pin the blame on the lousy player who "kill" your hands with his lousy play, than to acknowledge that your loss is attributable to variability. Blackjack is an independent game (i.e. its not a team game), whatever card that other players take has no effect whatsoever on your hand.

It does not matter even if another player split his 10's, it does not affect the probabilities on your hand.

Have a read on Edward Thorpe's book. Your long held myth ought to be debunked today.
Sounds like you have read about BJ and Basic Strategy.
You go a long way back when you mention Edward Thorpe.
Yes it is all about Basic Strategy which is all Maths and not Guidelines.

'Its always easier to pin the blame on the lousy player who "kill" your hands with his lousy play, than to acknowledge that your loss is attributable to variability. Blackjack is an independent game (i.e. its not a team game), whatever card that other players take has no effect whatsoever on your hand.'

How to answer this. BJ is the only game where how you play your card affect other player's cards including the Dealer. So if you do not play the way that some other players think is the correct play then you have 'kill' their cards. In my 20 years of playing BJ unfortunately most players see BJ as a 'team game'. So I have been insulted,scolded and threaten. So I and many of my friends have not played BJ for long periods of time because of this.

I would be most happy if other players would just let me play my Basic Strategy.
I never really watch how the other players play. I just play perfect BS and with the HA of 0.65% and the Comps I get from the casino I am really playing for free and for fun.
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Old 26-07-2019, 12:37 AM   #2663
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Then no point if they are going to stop people who go daily.
I buy season buy the unwritten is i cannot go daily


If u hv read abt past incidences involving "advantage" players around the world - it's well understood that any casino in the world can bar u from entering/ playing in their premises as and when they deem u r an "advantage" player - even if u r really so damn lucky to win so frequently and not really depending on any "system".

Thus, over here it's not really a long-shot to think that casinos here having similar practices albeit under the pretext of certain regulatory rules (for the good/well-being of casino patrons )...the "subtle & diplomatic" approach
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Old 26-07-2019, 12:47 AM   #2664
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As long as you stick to the basic strategy on a 6-deck Spanish 21, you lower house edge to ~ 0.4%.

Whatever other players do, does not affect your edge. A simple google search would have yielded you such results.

If you are lazy, let me help you out.

Google
Wow. Spanish 21, where are you coming from. We call it Pontoon here.
Pontoon is a carnival game, meaning fun game.

Unfortunately the BS is not widely known and difficult to play correctly because of the many ways to play it. The best BS here is by an Australian lady Katellen (something). If you want to tract her down you have to Google Spanish 21 which is the US version of the game.
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Old 26-07-2019, 07:22 AM   #2665
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Wahahaha
Heard that.

At least i dont earn much from them. Def not a whale. A few thousands a month would be under the radar.

If u hv read abt past incidences involving "advantage" players around the world - it's well understood that any casino in the world can bar u from entering/ playing in their premises as and when they deem u r an "advantage" player - even if u r really so damn lucky to win so frequently and not really depending on any "system".

Thus, over here it's not really a long-shot to think that casinos here having similar practices albeit under the pretext of certain regulatory rules (for the good/well-being of casino patrons )...the "subtle & diplomatic" approach
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Old 26-07-2019, 08:27 AM   #2666
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The statement in red is factually not right.

Nonetheless, thanks for all the tips !
Paul Lee is correct. You are wrong.
Actually, Bro smilingbuddha is right to say that the statement is factually wrong.

I guess I did not phase it correctly.

What I mean to say is that sometimes when you hit (or dun hit), the other players may think you should do otherwise.

eg. someone hit with 15 (within the rule) got a 10 and bust. Next player got a 11 but hit a small card and eventually bust out. In this example, the next player may feel that if the player with 15 did not hit, he would have hit a 21.

Most will accept Bro Smarty2's view that it's playing by the rules of the games. And other players should usually accept it.

Now imagine the guy drawing 15 bet min and the next player bet a few hundred. You can see how problematic things can escalate. And like I say, I have seen it quite frequently actually.

Ah.. but I have just been catching up on bros smilingbuddha and JohnTKS posts and it seems that both are seasoned players who probably understood what I mean in the first place.

So this clarification is ultimately unnecessary.

And bro JohnTKS's experience of being insulted, scolded and threaten is what I have witnessed many times in the casinos.

The theory is always great and all but the practical reality is another matter altogether. Science and mathematics is a beautiful thing and it does explain many things in life.

Unfortunately, human emotion is not something that can be computed or explain with a string of equations. And all of us are not as logical as we think. If we are, casinos would never exist in the first place.
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Old 26-07-2019, 08:36 AM   #2667
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Now imagine the guy drawing 15 bet min and the next player bet a few hundred. You can see how problematic things can escalate. And like I say, I have seen it quite frequently actually.
People always remember the times when another player's "stupid" play causes them to lose a hand. They forget the times when that same player's "stupid" play causes them to win a hand that they would otherwise have lost. On average, the incidence tends to be about the same which is why that player's "stupid" play has no effect on you.
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Old 26-07-2019, 08:41 AM   #2668
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Tats why many a time u see a lone player having the whole table to himself...bcuz the aim is to win $$ & not necessarily to play according to some so-called widely accepted/established "guidelines"...in short - whatever decision u make is a means to an end as long it's allowed by the dealer....well if u can win why not?******************
You tend to lose more if you play as a lone player. This is because the time to play 1 hand decreases dramatically. If you are grinding for points, it is best to play at crowded tables, preferably with newbies who don't know the rules well and take more time to play. It also helps if the dealer is new and takes more time to deal / payout.

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Old 26-07-2019, 09:09 AM   #2669
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You tend to lose more if you play as a lone player. This is because the time to play 1 hand decreases dramatically. If you are grinding for points, it is best to play at crowded tables, preferably with newbies who don't know the rules well and take more time to play. It also helps if the dealer is new and takes more time to deal / payout.
Correct. According to the well known Stanford Wong 1 to 1 with the dealer speed of play is 360 rounds per hour. At a full table it is 60 rounds per hour.
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Old 26-07-2019, 09:14 AM   #2670
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Hi pple, may i ask is there a shortcut from First World Hotel to Resort Hotel B5?
i saw in older threads pple mentioned it's about 15min walk (indoor linkway),
and someone else mentioned First World Hotel to Arena of Stars also about 15min walk (saying Resort Hotel is v near to Arena of Stars),
but i know the shortcut from FWH to Arena of Stars (go out from FWM main entrance and walk by the roadside across, within few min can reach Arena of Stars),
so is this shortcut gonna lead me to Resort Hotel faster?
Thanks alot.
Just opposite is resort B5, but be careful of traffic.
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